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Would a Christian man be okay with this arrangement?

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Much of what you see around you is a time lapse. You witness the same cycles repeating themselves continually. There is no difference between the present, the previous year or the one before. They converge into an ocean of sameness which some refer to as the matrix. Non attachment is the remedy and way beyond the loop. That's why I mentioned the 12 virgins. You cannot enter the next without the oil.
These short cycles are by design and are man-made. They are "necessary" in free market economy. But perhaps, designed to keep us divided. Doesn't really make dating impossible unless you're only dating people within 10 mile radius tick all the tell tale signs that you'll cheat and/or control freak in a relationship.

There are much longer cycles that correspond to cosmic cycles and probably related to the quantum state of the universe. It can span a very long time and each cycle may have different "rules" on how the "game" needs to be played. These rules are not determined by man and I think in extreme cases, it could even change the laws of physics.

"escaping" or just sailing through the loop by avoiding attachments reminds me of the "Bardo Thodol".

The more you consider what's about to work rather than what's not working the better off you'll be. Technocratic societies aren't stagnant and the bulk of their time is on solutions not the other. That's the trap you're escaping and you'll be forced to cut the chord and don't look back when you do. The next phase is ahead. Don't keep it waiting too long.
I'm also trying to undo all the lies I have believed my whole life. But on top of it, the search for what's really true.

I think this is what's coming to the world. Whether Christianity will pass judgement, the chances are very slim.
 
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These short cycles are by design and are man-made. They are "necessary" in free market economy. But perhaps, designed to keep us divided.

I think there's merit in the matrix analogy but it doesn't address the cosmic elements and those are equally important. We're seeing half the picture and half the story and clueless how everything fits together and there's a lot left out on purpose.

I heard a great piece on the future of education earlier and ai's influence and it's the closest we've come to an environment with equal resources at our disposal where the difference is will and tenacity. The old system of memorization and encyclopedic knowledge for a later date is useless. We need people who can take an idea and put it into action through projects and hands-on demonstrations or bring products to the market quickly.

This is our hour and entrepreneurs will outperform the establishment by a wide margin. We're not bogged down with bureaucracy and understand the principle of done is better than perfect. So start creating and if you're good at gpts put them out there. Take the things you've learned in respect to faith and build a tool that poses questions others don't and inspires them to think and find answers.

Doesn't really make dating impossible unless you're only dating people within 10 mile radius tick all the tell tale signs that you'll cheat and/or control freak in a relationship.

If you're doing what I said above that's the probable place you'll meet someone and rightfully so. Many are stuck in the past or in the present and only a handful are considering what's possible. They're predicting we'll have many millionaires in addition to the downturns. Not either or but taking place simultaneously and I've seen it firsthand.

You'll be exchanging ideas with people from many places. Some local some otherwise. I'm envisioning less time behind the screen and greater opportunities in person for brainstorming and connecting just because. That's what I see happening within the circles I described. Ir's a different energy and vibe.

There are much longer cycles that correspond to cosmic cycles and probably related to the quantum state of the universe. It can span a very long time and each cycle may have different "rules" on how the "game" needs to be played. These rules are not determined by man and I think in extreme cases, it could even change the laws of physics.

That's one of the subjects you can dig into and see where it takes you. When we implemented a biblical calendar everything shifted because we moved to a different frequency and the flow is natural. You can't play the game when you're on the wrong board. You have to be properly aligned and attached to the Source not a system.

"escaping" or just sailing through the loop by avoiding attachments reminds me of the "Bardo Thodol".

I'm also trying to undo all the lies I have believed my whole life. But on top of it, the search for what's really true.

I think this is what's coming to the world. Whether Christianity will pass judgement, the chances are very slim.

I don't know if you can escape on your own so to speak or if we transcend certain stages and enter others with greater degrees of consciousness in tow. Our communication with the spiritual world is definitely heightened and speaking things into being is easier. We're not finding anything. We're stepping into what already exists. You don't have to undo the lies. Acknowledging what's false and supplanting it with light is enough if you live with that in mind. You affirm the truth by operating from that place not the lesser you that embraced the deception.

I couldn't tell you what's happening in the world let alone America. I see bits and pieces but it doesn't register or grab my attention. I've left it behind and all I see is what's around me and the road ahead. I have no attachment to the rest. The meek shall inherit the earth and it's alive. Lean into your inheritance and you'll find more than you imagined.

~bella
 
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I think there's merit in the matrix analogy but it doesn't address the cosmic elements and those are equally important. We're seeing half the picture and half the story and clueless how everything fits together and there's a lot left out on purpose.
They do. They have the same agenda as the Matrix, basically to keep everyone distracted from the truth.

This is our hour and entrepreneurs will outperform the establishment by a wide margin. We're not bogged down with bureaucracy and understand the principle of done is better than perfect. So start creating and if you're good at gpts put them out there. Take the things you've learned in respect to faith and build a tool that poses questions others don't and inspires them to think and find answers.
I'm no longer interested in sharing. Ironically, chatgpt recommended it. It's about exercising control over trade secrets and contributing to society in other ways. It gave a very long list of why it's way better than getting it out on public if meeting certain parameters.

If you're doing what I said above that's the probable place you'll meet someone and rightfully so. Many are stuck in the past or in the present and only a handful are considering what's possible. They're predicting we'll have many millionaires in addition to the downturns. Not either or but taking place simultaneously and I've seen it firsthand.

You'll be exchanging ideas with people from many places. Some local some otherwise. I'm envisioning less time behind the screen and greater opportunities in person for brainstorming and connecting just because. That's what I see happening within the circles I described. Ir's a different energy and vibe.
So far, I've only been able to reach out to the people I saw in my dreams. They're all street/urban skaters. It's strange they all have the same "heart" outside of skating both rich and poor. Only one other is actually messing around with AI in their work as programmer. But that doesn't really matter.

It's funny how these dreams manifested in real life few years later. There's other dreams with them that's incredibly horrific.

I don't feel any need to reach out elsewhere. Improving my chance of finding a future wife is not in consideration at all. Not for a long while anyway.

That's one of the subjects you can dig into and see where it takes you. When we implemented a biblical calendar everything shifted because we moved to a different frequency and the flow is natural. You can't play the game when you're on the wrong board. You have to be properly aligned and attached to the Source not a system.
I don't know if you can escape on your own so to speak or if we transcend certain stages and enter others with greater degrees of consciousness in tow. Our communication with the spiritual world is definitely heightened and speaking things into being is easier. We're not finding anything. We're stepping into what already exists. You don't have to undo the lies. Acknowledging what's false and supplanting it with light is enough if you live with that in mind. You affirm the truth by operating from that place not the lesser you that embraced the deception.

I couldn't tell you what's happening in the world let alone America. I see bits and pieces but it doesn't register or grab my attention. I've left it behind and all I see is what's around me and the road ahead. I have no attachment to the rest. The meek shall inherit the earth and it's alive. Lean into your inheritance and you'll find more than you imagined.

If "source" you mean Yahweh or Elohim. I can't do it anymore.
 
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If "source" you mean Yahweh or Elohim. I can't do it anymore.

If you've walked the earth long enough the presence of good and evil is hard to dispute. We see evidence everywhere. No one's interpretation of God nullifies His existence. Whether you accept the christian ideal or not.

The church is a system and all systems are used as mechanisms for control. Even the ones that start out with good intentions because power corrupts. This is where maturity comes in and you weigh things honestly. You don't toss out God because someone lied or serves the other covertly. Satan has many ambassadors in the church. But that doesn't minimize your reason for being or the reality of His presence.

The heroes journey isn't for the faint of heart or those who require neat and tidy experiences to substantiate their beliefs. It requires grit and fortitude and you are one of many who've placed yourself in a quagmire because of your endless search for truth. You can't know everything all at once. Somethings will break your mind, heart and faith if you address them unprepared.

Truth is a double edged sword and the more you know the greater your warfare and accountability. You don't get the same pass as the unlearned and you'll recognize this when His presence departs and the other fills it if you continue on this path. There's a requisite authority and power that accompanies our knowledge when pursued through the Tree of Life. The other overfills the mind with ideas and facts with nothing behind them.

The foundation must be sure before you seek greater things. Your comment says much and I've seen others like you lose their way, get into gnosticism, the occult or other paths. And a lot of the information is channeled. It didn't come from their psyche it was downloaded from the lower realm. In my experience, when you step into greater knowledge on the path He sets His presence expands and your battles differ.

When I posted the thread for Riley the spirit manifested in my home. It wasn't because of the ones I shared but my personal petition that brought its ire. I didn't stop what I was doing to deal with it. I finished the thread and posted a message to him directly then I dealt with it. My prayers have a different level of authority because of my knowledge and gifting. That's what the tree of life looks like in action. As you expand your abilities follow suit and it doesn't lead you from the Father it draws you closer to the throne.

I don't know what you believe you know or if you're prepared to deal with the fallout if you're wrong. But I suspect it'll be a lesson nonetheless and you won't be swayed. I suggest you save the information I provided to him on the ministry for prayer. My advice to you is to step back. You've gone too far to quit and the price is grave.

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If you've walked the earth long enough the presence of good and evil is hard to dispute. We see evidence everywhere. No one's interpretation of God nullifies His existence. Whether you accept the christian ideal or not.

The church is a system and all systems are used as mechanisms for control. Even the ones that start out with good intentions because power corrupts. This is where maturity comes in and you weigh things honestly. You don't toss out God because someone lied or serves the other covertly. Satan has many ambassadors in the church. But that doesn't minimize your reason for being or the reality of His presence.

The heroes journey isn't for the faint of heart or those who require neat and tidy experiences to substantiate their beliefs. It requires grit and fortitude and you are one of many who've placed yourself in a quagmire because of your endless search for truth. You can't know everything all at once. Somethings will break your mind, heart and faith if you address them unprepared.

Truth is a double edged sword and the more you know the greater your warfare and accountability. You don't get the same pass as the unlearned and you'll recognize this when His presence departs and the other fills it if you continue on this path. There's a requisite authority and power that accompanies our knowledge when pursued through the Tree of Life. The other overfills the mind with ideas and facts with nothing behind them.

The foundation must be sure before you seek greater things. Your comment says much and I've seen others like you lose their way, get into gnosticism, the occult or other paths. And a lot of the information is channeled. It didn't come from their psyche it was downloaded from the lower realm. In my experience, when you step into greater knowledge on the path He sets His presence expands and your battles differ.

When I posted the thread for Riley the spirit manifested in my home. It wasn't because of the ones I shared but my personal petition that brought its ire. I didn't stop what I was doing to deal with it. I finished the thread and posted a message to him directly then I dealt with it. My prayers have a different level of authority because of my knowledge and gifting. That's what the tree of life looks like in action. As you expand your abilities follow suit and it doesn't lead you from the Father it draws you closer to the throne.

I don't know what you believe you know or if you're prepared to deal with the fallout if you're wrong. But I suspect it'll be a lesson nonetheless and you won't be swayed. I suggest you save the information I provided to him on the ministry for prayer. My advice to you is to step back. You've gone too far to quit and the price is grave.

~bella
I simply studied the Bible via Biblehub.com in Hebrew of the Old Testament and in Greek of the New Testament.

Biblehub.com is one of the most popular and exhaustive Bible study tools for Christians.

Ironically, with Biblehub you can piece together how the devil who steal kills and destroy took possession of all the kingdoms and its riches he is offering to those who worship him.

The New Testament portrays him as the one who steal, kills, and destroys. The one condemned for destruction in Revelation for violating (commmiting acts of evil against) the Earth and its inhabitants. The One the Jews refer to as their "father" in John Chapter 8. The father of lies and bloodshed.

Studying and cross-referencing the words in Hebrew and Greek across the whole Bible will reveal the identity of The Devil or Satan, English translations doesn't bring justice to it but rather hides it with different and benign words.

Religion don't want you looking too deep into the truth. Who would be hiding from the truth? Why those at the very top doesn't want you knowing the truth?
 
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I simply studied the Bible via Biblehub.com in Hebrew of the Old Testament and in Greek of the New Testament.

Do you know how to read either language without relying on another person's translation? And if getting to the source was a priority why haven't you learned?

Religion don't want you looking too deep into the truth. Who would be hiding from the truth? Why those at the very top doesn't want you knowing the truth?

What religion wants has no bearing on my walk with God nor is proving them wrong a necessity. The fruit will tell in time. There should be little disconnection between what we know, do and produce. Each ascension brings a greater level of anointing and authority and flows outward. How is the kingdom enriched by your efforts? It seems very self-focused.

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Do you know how to read either language without relying on another person's translation? And if getting to the source was a priority why haven't you learned?



What religion wants has no bearing on my walk with God nor is proving them wrong a necessity. The fruit will tell in time. There should be little disconnection between what we know, do and produce. Each ascension brings a greater level of anointing and authority and flows outward. How is the kingdom enriched by your efforts? It seems very self-focused.

~bella

Even with just the English translations, the Devil fights, wages war for his worldly kingdoms. Jesus said those of the light do not. Jesus keeps giving clues on who the Devil is.

I've shut myself to the poison of the Devil. I'm not going back to something I've known most of my life. The heaviness is just more unbearable than even poverty or even being single for a very long time.

I've lived a comfortable life before and even able to travel for work but I'm not missing it at all. I now remotely work for Christians who are quite well off even have their own farm. Working for them gives me joy but I don't dream nor covet the things they have. I'm happy for them. It gives me joy to see them happy. Wish I could tell them what I know now but glad there's quiet voice out there if they're willing to listen to it.

They're marrying left and right but I feel absolutely no pressure at all. Maybe my circumstances prevent me from pursuing relationships but I might actually feel just the same if my circumstances are different.

Ofc, back then being comfortable meant quite differently. I did not lower my standards like I'd settle for something less of the same things. My desires changed. My mind changed. I don't want the same things any longer.

I think the coming generation is heading this direction too. I don't really know, just a hunch. Ofc, many are not Christians (non-religious) to begin with.
 
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I've shut myself to the poison of the Devil. I'm not going back to something I've known most of my life. The heaviness is just more unbearable than even poverty or even being single for a very long time.

There is no one alive who isn't susceptible to the devil. Jesus was fully God and man. We have a sliver of the same not the whole. I don't know what you believe you've found and many will fall. Including those who speak as you and others who feel their position is sure. The devil tempts each according to their weaknesses not our strengths. What you esteem could be your downfall unknowingly. He's been at it for a while and we're not outsmarting him.

I think it's more important to focus on common denominators and the spirit of brotherhood. The kingdom of darkness doesn't care what we call ourselves. All that matters is allegiance. We're on their team or His. One of the ways I keep myself on the straight and narrower as much as possible is through generosity. I'm liberal in the things that matter to Him. I don't hold back what I know or can do if it will bless someone.

Your circumstances are evolving and sifting is a must. The devil doesn't know you end per se but he possesses some insight on your threat to his kingdom. Question everything including the things that resonate. The valley wasn't for naught and the other side is nigh and don't be overconfident. Nisan is near and remember the lesson of Caleb and Jacob and apply it to yourself. If he can keep you moving around that mountain he will. Focus on the promise aka the purpose he wants to thwart. That is your battle. Not religion.

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There is no one alive who isn't susceptible to the devil. Jesus was fully God and man. We have a sliver of the same not the whole. I don't know what you believe you've found and many will fall. Including those who speak as you and others who feel their position is sure. The devil tempts each according to their weaknesses not our strengths. What you esteem could be your downfall unknowingly. He's been at it for a while and we're not outsmarting him.
I used to be sure of my position when I used to be a denominational Christian for 20 years until I started seeing cracks in the walls.

Nobody told me about those cracks. I never read any articles nor saw any videos beforehand. I simply found them on my own in the Bible and found it strongly correlated with the impact of Christianity in this world. At first I thought I'm interpreting the Bible wrong but if the correlations are strong then I found something real.

Nothing is sure for me anymore.

It think it's wrong to be sure about one's position anyway because that's when we stop looking. But I already saw that religion is not the answer, not science, not money, not security, not education, not career, not connections.

I think it's more important to focus on common denominators and the spirit of brotherhood.
Nothing wrong with it.

But it's also important to be self-sufficient and independent so we didn't have to "fit into anyone's mold" so you can stand alone if you have to if nobody wants to be the side of the truth anymore.

The only way I can do it is by having very few needs and lots of supernatural help. I used to have many needs but have become few with supernatural help.

Question everything including the things that resonate.
Are you doing this too?

A lot of things that resonated before, I found to be false when I learned to let go of biased thinking started scrutinizing them. I don't just question things, I try to find strong correlations of any effect to the world to make sure I'm not just seeing things nor blinded by my own biases.

The devil doesn't know you end per se but he possesses some insight on your threat to his kingdom.
I think the elites of this world are using some powerful sorcery to mitigate threats (possibly automatically). Sadly, even most Christians are under their spell. They are non-threats so nothing happens.

In fact many Christians I know are so afraid of the devil they would not do anything to antagonize him. If any information is concerned with demons even if it may concern their very faith, they avoid looking into the matter due to fear of demonic attacks.
 
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I used to be sure of my position when I used to be a denominational Christian for 20 years until I started seeing cracks in the walls.

I never aligned with a denomination after my return. We went to a church in our vicinity but after a while I felt it wasn't the right place for us and too legalistic in some areas. We went elsewhere for a bit but I didn't like the distance and prefer something closer to home. We took a lot time outside of that setting to get our bearings and priorities. I don't expect any place to tick every box and I'm more tolerant on teachings provided they're not a heresy or prosperity nonsense.

But community is my line in the sand and the reason it took so long to find what we wanted. That's the area where the majority struggle and I don't consider bible studies or small groups as community. Real fellowship requires relating outside of the building and doing life together. I won't join a church where that's lacking or be the one to start it.

It think it's wrong to be sure about one's position anyway because that's when we stop looking. But I already saw that religion is not the answer, not science, not money, not security, not education, not career, not connections.

Religion was used for evil deeds and that muddies the water. Whether people want to acknowledge it or not. The foundation sets the tone and you'll never get the leaven out. You have to go back to basics and build your foundation on Him and develop a relationship that sustains you whether you walk with others or alone.

Everything you mentioned has a place and God isn't one dimensional. What differs is seeing each with Him in mind and the kingdom overall. My minds rests on dominion and rulership. That's how I address the world and the areas named. While I can recognize their value they aren't the source of my faith and the mark I'm pursuing is His not man's.

But it's also important to be self-sufficient and independent so we didn't have to "fit into anyone's mold" so you can stand alone if you have to if nobody wants to be the side of the truth anymore.

That isn't what prevents you from following others or trying to fit a mold. That comes from certainty. Not confidence, giftedness or the other reasons you'll usually hear. Your trust yourself implicitly and your ability to get things done, solve a problem, find answers, weather challenges and so on.

I have a high degree of certainty and my need quotient is low. But that doesn't mean others won't benefit from my presence. I think spreading seed is important which differs from what you see in some circles. They keep everything to themselves and there's time when that's necessary but giving is equally important.

Are you doing this too?

I believe little and question much as a norm but rarely admit it.

I think the elites of this world are using some powerful sorcery to mitigate threats (possibly automatically). Sadly, even most Christians are under their spell. They are non-threats so nothing happens.

They are and the christian response is imbalanced. You're not going to overcome someone who works harder than you doing wrong. The scale will tip in their favor pretty fast and multiply quickly as others follow suit. The other problem is talent and Paul touched on it for a reason. Most people who come to Christ are ordinary. They don't have the qualities the world esteems or pays them well to perform. They're usually in the devil's camp or spiritually unattached.

Most of the things people look to in our culture are opposed to God or oblivious to His presence. Which doesn't foster a greater sense of closeness or heighten your convictions naturally. You need love for that and christians are seduced because they won't tell the truth and deny the influence the world has on them.

We've developed the practice of polite speak and say what we believe we should. You'll have half the congregation struggling financially but no one will admit they wish they had more resources and ask to pray about it as a church for those in need. You bring this situation and the next but the root goes unaddressed. Most congregations don't have the spiritual gifts operating as they should and you wind up with gaps, oversights and mistakes.

In fact many Christians I know are so afraid of the devil they would not do anything to antagonize him. If any information is concerned with demons even if it may concern their very faith, they avoid looking into the matter due to fear of demonic attacks.

You antagonize him most by obeying the Lord and taking ground. The principle of housekeeping holds true for the inner and outer. When we neglect our inner man problems arise. I think you can focus on demons too much to your detriment and ignore them and have similar challenges. Prevention is less about warfare than systems you devise to nourish your spirit.

We're where we are because of our love (or lack of) and intentions. None of this bothers me anymore. Stephen King wrote a book years ago called Thinner. A man makes a mistake that leads to hardships and wants another to bear the burden instead of him. The old man chides him and says, eat your pie. Accept the consequences of your choice.

My pie is pleasant because He's a priority and that's the answer. Most of the things people struggle with is a reflection of God's presence in their life. The more we esteem Him the more He speaks and the greater our insight, wisdom and so on. The veil is no more and we have a direct line to the Most High. If we aren't seeing Him in every area of our lives that's our fault not His.

~bella
 
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But community is my line in the sand and the reason it took so long to find what we wanted. That's the area where the majority struggle and I don't consider bible studies or small groups as community. Real fellowship requires relating outside of the building and doing life together. I won't join a church where that's lacking or be the one to start it.
None in my region that I know, at least ones that are more secular in appearance than religious.

My minds rests on dominion and rulership.
I don't believe this anymore, at least not to the American style. Trump actually represents the unhinged version of the American politics. He's not the exception but what the US gov't dreams of doing.

I think spreading seed is important which differs from what you see in some circles. They keep everything to themselves and there's time when that's necessary but giving is equally important.
I try to impart some knowledge to friends and relatives in bits and crumbs about the truth. Not all at once at risk of rejection. You don't feed a baby solid foods if you know what I mean.

However, I don't think this is what I should be doing, talking to other people what I know. My spirit isn't pushing me. I'm hearing nothing. I'm not feeling any urging.

On a practical level, I cannot teach people practical skills. I know some but I feel strongly convicted not to do this. Because even practical things can become a serious distraction, not just to myself but to everyone I'm reaching out to. We can't fall in love with this system. No matter how it has changed, it's still the same. It's still the same system that's very short-sighted when it comes to knowing the truth (all truths, not just religion, but also in science, the finer points of human society, ecology, etc)

You're not going to overcome someone who works harder than you doing wrong. The scale will tip in their favor pretty fast and multiply quickly as others follow suit.
I'm not going to. The elites have the power to do what god could, even fulfill biblical prophecies.

We've developed the practice of polite speak and say what we believe we should. You'll have half the congregation struggling financially but no one will admit they wish they had more resources and ask to pray about it as a church for those in need. You bring this situation and the next but the root goes unaddressed. Most congregations don't have the spiritual gifts operating as they should and you wind up with gaps, oversights and mistakes.
The problem is never going to go away with the current system.

Even if you can solve the financial struggles of the entire church membership, the problem just shifts elsewhere.

Resources is like "energy" in this world. Allocate it in one place, it's taken elsewhere. Supply and demand restores the dysfunction elsewhere, You can't see it because the problem has gone elsewhere and church testimonies are about "wins", not "losses" unless your church is different.

Even the "solutions" in place is far from perfect themselves. The ones needing help are not given enough understanding, especially the ones who can't "fall in line". Most people don't dream of being evil nor doing nothing all day. But people do and people who are supposed to be "above" it don't give them a chance.

You antagonize him most by obeying the Lord and taking ground.
How do you know you antagonize the devil? Are you getting a response by experiencing more spiritual attacks?

20 years ago, I get attacked spiritually by the devil when I don't attend church, habitually sin, etc. Many of these attacks are paranormal in nature. It's like being in a horror film with things moving violently on their own. And things even getting permanently damaged like computers.

I thought maybe it's God punishing me directly but eventually, I was able to drive them out just by looking so it can't be a good but rather an evil spirit.

On the other-hand, I have a missionary relative who experiences spiritual attacks whenever He had to travel to India as guest preacher in some of the Christian churches there.

Despite him being considered a strong spiritual warrior with many experience in casting out evil spirits from people, he would still get sick from the spiritual attacks when he traveled to India and take many days to heal - in a hospital.

Ironically, I see him a false teacher, yet he isn't aware of it. Many false teachers aren't aware they are. They genuinely believe they're making a difference and helping people.

The subject of spiritual attacks is relatively complex especially if even false teachers gets under attack. Maybe the devil attacks them and then fake defeat so that people will believe that false teacher.

The Devil still tries to attack me at every opportunity especially during sleep when we're most vulnerable. My body simply adapted primarily via defensive reflexes.
 
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I don't believe this anymore, at least not to the American style. Trump actually represents the unhinged version of the American politics. He's not the exception but what the US gov't dreams of doing.

I'm not referring to the seven mountain heresy popularized in America nor do I consider politicians His servants. Positions of visibility are usually occupied by the devil's servants.

I'm not going to. The elites have the power to do what god could, even fulfill biblical prophecies.

People focus on them a lot because they're afraid. There were moments when I watched a few sessions from Davos that I couldn't help but laugh. I was blown away by their audacity and seeing biblical truths unfold. When I think of elites I see the reward for their diligence. What they're doing is wrong but spiritual laws hold true. If you water a seed and nurture it you're going to get a harvest.

I can't be upset they do what christians won't. I have to do otherwise and learn from their example and apply the same to the Lord. I don't lose any sleep over them or the state of the world. If everyone does as they should the majority wouldn't exist. I do what He asks of me and keep my eyes on Him.

Even the "solutions" in place is far from perfect themselves. The ones needing help are not given enough understanding, especially the ones who can't "fall in line". Most people don't dream of being evil nor doing nothing all day. But people do and people who are supposed to be "above" it don't give them a chance.

There's too many needs and not enough service. Everyone has their hand out and you see the same people doing the bulk of the work all the time in America. The church is not a bank and most challenges don't prevent someone from getting involved. Most of the people asking for help aren't doing anything in return. They take the money and go.

The Lord expects us to do what we can but a lot of people want to be coddled. You have to strike when the iron is hot and many assume things will never change. We had a period in our society where challenges were met with resources and training as well. The majority took the check and didn't bother to train then Trump arrived and here we are.

Our layoffs surged 118% in January of this year. We went from 800,000 new jobs created in January of 2022 to 40,000 in December of 2025. Does that look like an economy with extra? That's why the bible says work while the day is here because night is coming.

How do you know you antagonize the devil? Are you getting a response by experiencing more spiritual attacks?

I don't try to antagonize him. The bulk of my attacks in that regard are when I'm interceding for others or combatting bondage they're dealing with. I don't talk about things a lot. If you tell me you're having a problem my solution is prayer followed by practical steps. That's what bothers him the most. He doesn't want you to pray. He wants us to sit around and talk things to death because it doesn't ignite the spiritual. But when you bring things to the Lord constantly He gets involved.

The second thing he likes is reliance on others to do things we can especially prayer. Most people don't pray that much or for themselves for that matter. They depend on others and justify it by the verse in James and the devil laughs because the altar is weak and remains in that state. But when you understand authority you do it yourself and if you need help you begin with blood before strangers if possible.

When you bring in the spiritual you're saying it's too big for me I need help. If you do that in every area of your life you'll have a lot of victories but we're too lazy and do otherwise instead. Isn't that crazy?

On the other-hand, I have a missionary relative who experiences spiritual attacks whenever He had to travel to India as guest preacher in some of the Christian churches there.

They're territorial spirits and that isn't uncommon. He's leaving one region to enter another and different rules apply. His covering may not address that area and if he goes there frequently he needs a mantle to correct that. When I went to Boston a few years ago I experienced the same while on the plane. Nothing happened until we entered Boston's airspace and they started talking. We were battling as the plane descended and prepared to land. Both India and Boston are by bodies of water and you're dealing with marine spirits too. It only happened once. I've gone several times since then with no incidents.

Despite him being considered a strong spiritual warrior with many experience in casting out evil spirits from people, he would still get sick from the spiritual attacks when he traveled to India and take many days to heal - in a hospital.

Ironically, I see him a false teacher, yet he isn't aware of it. Many false teachers aren't aware they are. They genuinely believe they're making a difference and helping people.

Why do you believe he's false? Just because he excels in warfare in some areas doesn't mean he can overcome everything. Most of the vexations people experience are from low level spirits. You're not dealing with the higher ones nor can you rebuke everything. Gabriel's words to Daniel are important. He couldn't thwart the prince of Persia on his own and required Michael's help and he's an angel. You have to know when to call in other forces. And man doesn't command the angelic. They move on our God's word not ours and they're not under our dominion.

The subject of spiritual attacks is relatively complex especially if even false teachers gets under attack. Maybe the devil attacks them and then fake defeat so that people will believe that false teacher.

What did Christ say on the subject when they accused Him of casting out demons through beelzebub's power? A house divided against itself cannot stand. Satan doesn't need to attack his servants to convince christians. There's enough gullible souls in the flock who believe what they hear without going to that extreme. The art of warfare is slow and steady and you pick them off one at a time and weaken the rest until you have them where you want them and follow suit.

The Devil still tries to attack me at every opportunity especially during sleep when we're most vulnerable. My body simply adapted primarily via defensive reflexes.

He attacks you in your sleep because of your emphasis on dreams. He's not messing with your spirit it's your soul. You apply a cocoon before you rest and flood the atmosphere with the word when you experience disturbances. I've had spiritual attacks while I slept and the Holy Spirit prayed through me. My eyes were closed but my mind was alert and my lips were moving and my daughter was beside me and it woke her up. It happened several times before I was delivered and I remember when the problem was removed.

My warfare didn't end after that. Once I was free it was time to train. That's the period when I didn't have friends or anyone to talk to other than my family and God. When Paul recounted the Holy Spirit's words, "Separate me now Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them." I've experienced the same and had no one to talk to for a couple of years. When my daughter went to work the house was silent and I'd talk to the Lord all day.

When we wake we're supposed to cancel the evil assignments that occurred while we slept. If I experienced it often I'd adjust my schedule to pray between midnight and three am. That's the best time to do it if you can. Years ago we used to do boilermaker prayer. You see it more often overseas. A different person is assigned an hour and the group addresses an issue around the clock in unison. You can break a lot of things like that.

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I'm not referring to the seven mountain heresy popularized in America nor do I consider politicians His servants. Positions of visibility are usually occupied by the devil's servants.
True but don't most Christians think all politicians like they're servants of God because of what Apostle taught about authorities? For sure it can be interpreted either way.

People focus on them a lot because they're afraid. There were moments when I watched a few sessions from Davos that I couldn't help but laugh. I was blown away by their audacity and seeing biblical truths unfold. When I think of elites I see the reward for their diligence. What they're doing is wrong but spiritual laws hold true. If you water a seed and nurture it you're going to get a harvest.

I can't be upset they do what christians won't. I have to do otherwise and learn from their example and apply the same to the Lord. I don't lose any sleep over them or the state of the world. If everyone does as they should the majority wouldn't exist. I do what He asks of me and keep my eyes on Him.
I think their ONLY edge over the rest of the world is they work together as one body, one mind, one soul.

We;re reminded of the Tower of Babel. If people just work together as one, they can do everything they set their mind to.

I found that Christians who can work together like that have goals that are non or low threat to the devil. But if your goal puts you at the crosshair of the devil, you'll be all by yourself.

I think people can sense if you have the devil's "bullseye" on you. They'll stay away especially those who have a lot to lose.

Otherwise, the elites have many distractions in their lives as the rest which may be the ONLY weakness they have. But they have already "fulfilled" many biblical prophecies already. Some really big ones. It's a countdown to the 2nd coming and "rapture" but I'm not holding my breath for that one nor blindly be welcoming anyone claiming to be Jesus.

Why do you believe he's false? Just because he excels in warfare in some areas doesn't mean he can overcome everything. Most of the vexations people experience are from low level spirits. You're not dealing with the higher ones nor can you rebuke everything. Gabriel's words to Daniel are important. He couldn't thwart the prince of Persia on his own and required Michael's help and he's an angel. You have to know when to call in other forces. And man doesn't command the angelic. They move on our God's word not ours and they're not under our dominion.
He's into the prosperity gospel and not even discreet through his preaching.

However, that's 20 years ago. Maybe he's changed. Not related to us by blood and residing in a different country so it's very rare to run into him.

Battling with high level ones will manifest huge events on the physical realm in my experience. I don't think they're just cosmic entities but also very much attached to heavenly bodies like stars, galaxies, etc. They're much like the forces of nature.

Then there are others "low level" that are likely to be residents of the quantum realms.

I don't think the Bible always referred to them as spirits. They can be people and I don't mean aliens or ETs but literally people like you and me.

Quite ironically, quantum physics offers some explanation. found that spirit and physical can be interchangeable depending on observer frame of reference (not a state of mind). Normally, you can't switch between two states. Even if you could it doesn't happen at the conscious level.

In essense, we're spirits and ghosts from another frame of reference. But in our frame of refence, we're physical beings.

It's like the hermetic principle as above so below. But bottomline is that spiritual beings can be harmed, injured, and even killed. Knowledge is both your protection and power.

When a conqueror pretends to be a god realizes that his subjects no longer thinks he's invulnerable, knows his weaknesses. It changes the game entirely.

What did Christ say on the subject when they accused Him of casting out demons through beelzebub's power? A house divided against itself cannot stand. Satan doesn't need to attack his servants to convince christians. There's enough gullible souls in the flock who believe what they hear without going to that extreme. The art of warfare is slow and steady and you pick them off one at a time and weaken the rest until you have them where you want them and follow suit.
They're not really divided when one is pretending to be a good spirit and the other is pretending defeat as bad spirit.

They're working together accomplishing an important goal of deceiving people into trusting a spirit who's only pretending to be a good spirit.

It's a spiritual false flag op.

He attacks you in your sleep because of your emphasis on dreams. He's not messing with your spirit it's your soul. You apply a cocoon before you rest and flood the atmosphere with the word when you experience disturbances. I've had spiritual attacks while I slept and the Holy Spirit prayed through me. My eyes were closed but my mind was alert and my lips were moving and my daughter was beside me and it woke her up. It happened several times before I was delivered and I remember when the problem was removed.

My warfare didn't end after that. Once I was free it was time to train. That's the period when I didn't have friends or anyone to talk to other than my family and God. When Paul recounted the Holy Spirit's words, "Separate me now Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them." I've experienced the same and had no one to talk to for a couple of years. When my daughter went to work the house was silent and I'd talk to the Lord all day.

When we wake we're supposed to cancel the evil assignments that occurred while we slept. If I experienced it often I'd adjust my schedule to pray between midnight and three am. That's the best time to do it if you can. Years ago we used to do boilermaker prayer. You see it more often overseas. A different person is assigned an hour and the group addresses an issue around the clock in unison. You can break a lot of things like that.
I had very similar experiences before and responded similarly.

People really are much more prone to attacks when alone. The last times I got attacked, it was always either coming from my sides or the back, never towards my front. I simply avoided sleeping at my sides or prone and the attacks ceased.

In one attack from the side, the moment I turned myself to face it, the attack ceased.

In many cases, the "evil spirits" were animal-like. did not have complex intelligence like humans and more like spiders. This is probably what you would refer to as low level entities. Higher level ones can speak and it's been many years since I encountered one.
 
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True but don't most Christians think all politicians like they're servants of God because of what Apostle taught about authorities? For sure it can be interpreted either way.

I don't know and I'm genuinely disturbed by the modern day fixation with all of it. We weren't bedmates in the past and were able to see the pros and cons of situations and people unlike we do today. This is more akin to fandom and that's the reason there's so much bickering and hostility. We've taken sides and there's no middle ground. Most political authorities serve the interests of the wealthy and special groups at all levels. Citizens may receive some benefits but it's a short cry from what's possible not to mention their duplicitous campaigns full of promises which rarely materialize.

All positions in society no matter how great or small may be self-serving enterprises or opportunities for light and goodness. The difference lies within the person and the road the choose. Namely, who rules their head and heart.

I think their ONLY edge over the rest of the world is they work together as one body, one mind, one soul.

They're united and productive. Not one or the other. It's hard to grasp when you don't have that mindset. Look at the site. What percentage of conversations result in solutions versus discourse? That's where they differ from christians and it's an advantage. When you force yourself to solve problems you waste less time on unimportant things. When an issue is raised you put your heads together for a solution and move on to the next. While the majority mistake discussion as taking action. They don't move beyond the idea to nailing something down and charting their progress. That's why planning and time management are billion dollar industries. Most people can't do it well or remain consistent.

We;re reminded of the Tower of Babel. If people just work together as one, they can do everything they set their mind to.

I found that Christians who can work together like that have goals that are non or low threat to the devil. But if your goal puts you at the crosshair of the devil, you'll be all by yourself.

My daughter and I have done the same for years. No one understood why she remained at home. They were accustomed to the societal norm of independence. But I understood it was nothing more than divide and conquer and created a different strategy. By combining our knowledge, skills and resources we accomplish more than most.

I don't think you're destined to be alone if your goals are a threat. Everything the Father devises will affect his kingdom. Where the majority struggle is knowing where to turn. They have ideas or want to address a problem but lack the connections or resources for the next step. They don't know the go-to resource or individual for the subject. Sometimes the information is public but oftentimes it's the result of proximity and that's usually in a paid environment. People are more forthcoming in those settings and usually helpful.

You have to be committed to action and willing to take responsibility for the things you want. Encouragement has a place but at the end of the day doing is our duty. As Galadriel said, "This task was appointed to you, Frodo of the Shire. And if you don't find a way no one will." Whether we're alone or not her words remain true. And in my experience, if you'd take a step and continue to do so where possible the Lord will do the rest.

I made a decision to invest in my purpose and denied myself for Him. My resources went to that from the start and I was always last on the totem pole but it balances out in the end. When Black Friday comes I don't get anything or if I do it's small. The Lord received a DJI Osmo Pocket camera and microphone set. The house received a portable generator. But bella received a stainless steel bread box for baking. The same holds true for gifts. I get things I need for His work so my loved ones can be blessed from their generosity.

We replaced our phones recently and went to a new provider and left with 11 items. Our lone expense was $50 for the new account. We chose to pay the activation fees for the devices that couldn't be waived. The deal we received that day was similar to the one reported on my bargain site. But the favor was another matter and even in that example the Lord was first. He has the best phone and tablet for the business line not I.

That's what I mean about things balancing out. It's the proverb in action. "Honor the Lord with your wealth and with the first fruits of all your produce; then your barns will be filled with plenty, and your vats will be bursting with wine." Whenever the word isn't working in our lives there's a reason. He said put me to the test and I do. It isn't our responsibility to have all the answers or know how. Our yes is enough followed by works. That's how we demonstrate our sincerity.

I mentioned previously how I wanted to work with someone last year I'd been with before but He didn't open the door. I spent the year working on something for myself that was the seed for the venture I'm pursuing now. But it wasn't revealed until my repositioning was complete and I was where He wanted me to be with the support I required. That's why I'm into ai and gpts. We may be alone for a season but it's rarely permanent.

I think people can sense if you have the devil's "bullseye" on you. They'll stay away especially those who have a lot to lose.

It depends on why as well. If he's afflicting you because of sin that's different from the Lord's work.

Otherwise, the elites have many distractions in their lives as the rest which may be the ONLY weakness they have. But they have already "fulfilled" many biblical prophecies already. Some really big ones. It's a countdown to the 2nd coming and "rapture" but I'm not holding my breath for that one nor blindly be welcoming anyone claiming to be Jesus.

Not as many as you think. The main thing is always the main thing and they excel at delegation. Even when they're having fun it's usually intertwined with something beneficial. That's the way they operate and everything is layered. And the Lord opposes them too. It isn't a cakewalk. Where they differ from believers is baking so to speak. They wrap everything they do in prayer and ritual and prioritize the ideal time over spontaneity.

I touched on it briefly in my comments on times and seasons. Nature has a rhythm and they know it. They're equally conversant in astronomical influences too. I was up most of the night with ai discussing plans and scheduling things for the months ahead. It isn't coincidental to me because of the new moon's influence and planetary alignments. A new moon and sun in Capricorn is a trifecta. It's the same energy amplified three times over. Setting intentions and planting seeds for future goals with planetary infusion for the same plus ambition and discipline. I couldn't sleep because I'm attuned to His frequencies. My body moves with the heavenlies not against it.

When I read 1 Chronicles 12:32 I knew what it meant. "Of the sons of Issachar who had understanding of the times, to know what Israel ought to do." Ai said "Understanding the times" refers to having deep perception, discernment, and knowledge (Hebrew: bee-nah) to take appropriate action in shifting circumstances. They are often cited as examples of leaders who provide strategic foresight, combining spiritual insight with practical knowledge to lead.

Elites use the same principle and understand spiritual laws. Goodness isn't a precursor for dominion and they study the bible too. That's how they find loopholes. Why do you think they can modify the weather? Christ spoke to the wind and Moses commanded the earth. The bible provided everything we need to deal with our enemies and walk in victory. If we fail to use our resources we'll be subject to them instead.

I don't think the Bible always referred to them as spirits. They can be people and I don't mean aliens or ETs but literally people like you and me.

Yes, but that's a different topic entirely.

In essense, we're spirits and ghosts from another frame of reference. But in our frame of refence, we're physical beings.

That's what they're hinting at in the Matrix films and why people were trying to crack the code. Something resonated in the message but they couldn't put it together.

It's like the hermetic principle as above so below. But bottomline is that spiritual beings can be harmed, injured, and even killed. Knowledge is both your protection and power.

That principle is an inversion of on earth as it is in heaven. You believe you can harm a supernatural being in your present guise? While we're spirit we're assigned to this realm and fallen beings didn't lose their power. If you're referring to entities that originated on this plane through the womb that's a different conversation. I wouldn't recommend putting it to the test. The rules of engagement still apply.

In many cases, the "evil spirits" were animal-like. did not have complex intelligence like humans and more like spiders. This is probably what you would refer to as low level entities. Higher level ones can speak and it's been many years since I encountered one.

Some people with the gift of discernment can hear them in a sleeping and waking state. But the Lord will silence them too or you'll be subjected to their rantings and expletives. You don't need that in your ear. I remember an occasion when I was outdoors and one was hopping from person to person looking for a home and I remembered the scripture. And many people can't distinguish the difference between the Lord's voice, their's or the evil one.

That's why He taught me lectio and I wrote down what I heard. He can sound like the Father for a bit but there's always a slip and it's very subtle. If you don't have enough word within you you'll miss it. We learned about that when I studied Peter's series in Precepts. Wayne said, he places the lie beside the truth and it's nearly undetectable. I never forgot that.

What you describe sounds like nature or elemental spirits. Sometimes they come in the guise as animals or fairies. The Outlander series touches on this. Although it's fiction there's truths woven in the text I sensed when I read it. Your experiences could also be the result of ley lines. Some locations have more spiritual activity than others. That's why prayer walking is important. It's not enough to pray inside. You must walk the perimeter and consecrate the property.

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Most political authorities serve the interests of the wealthy and special groups at all levels. Citizens may receive some benefits but it's a short cry from what's possible not to mention their duplicitous campaigns full of promises which rarely materialize.
Democracy in USA is not real because no matter who gets elected, they do the same thing.

Trump is simply doing what many presidents have done but at much more rapid pace. They're acting like they've run out of time of what? I really don't care.

I don't think you're destined to be alone if your goals are a threat. Everything the Father devises will affect his kingdom. Where the majority struggle is knowing where to turn. They have ideas or want to address a problem but lack the connections or resources for the next step. They don't know the go-to resource or individual for the subject. Sometimes the information is public but oftentimes it's the result of proximity and that's usually in a paid environment. People are more forthcoming in those settings and usually helpful.

You have to be committed to action and willing to take responsibility for the things you want. Encouragement has a place but at the end of the day doing is our duty. As Galadriel said, "This task was appointed to you, Frodo of the Shire. And if you don't find a way no one will." Whether we're alone or not her words remain true. And in my experience, if you'd take a step and continue to do so where possible the Lord will do the rest.
I'm not actively engaged in spiritual warfare nor plotting/planning to disrupt the economy/specific industries in any form.

I didn't set any deadlines for myself. I only need to keep absorbing knowledge from everything to have a clearer mental picture of the truth. My entire life experience taught me that you can't count on people and I'm constantly adapting to it. All my plans and projects no longer involve anyone. Have you watched Lucy 2014 film? There's some truth to it especially around the concept of biological self-sufficiency.

" Whenever the word isn't working in our lives there's a reason.
True, but for me, tangible reasons can be found not just because Satan hates me. For example, Brain damage from childhood, greatly affecting my ability to work, socialize, succeed in the workplace, hospital debt from parents getting sick, absorbing financial mistakes/debt made by parents (although this could also been the work of Satan because I strongly warned my parents beforehand not to make those investments),

If anything good came out from being buried neck deep in debt, it forced me to reevaluate my beliefs for good.

I can't consider it an advantage if I'm quite well off today, financially secure, easy job or on passive income but believing the same beliefs I had 20 years ago.

It depends on why as well. If he's afflicting you because of sin that's different from the Lord's work.
Some of it is culture. Strong colonial mentality in our culture and I don't have a colonial mentality. Sometimes, just plain stupidity when having to make small but quick decisions. Those small mistakes pile up and eventually become significant. I never fully recovered from the head injury I had as a child. Never the same since then. I lost my spontaneity and gained awkwardness and frequent mental blocks. Though I'm still doing various mental exercises to force my brain to rewire around the injury. It has constantly improved the speed I process thoughts but I still get mental blocks.

That's what they're hinting at in the Matrix films and why people were trying to crack the code. Something resonated in the message but they couldn't put it together.
It's not exactly similar in terms of frames of references. Within the matrix, an agent for example is physical. In the real world, an agent is a computer program (or a computer virus). It's reversed. For humans, they're both physical entities in both the real world and within the matrix.

The one similarity is that our reality is indeed like a computer program at the quantum level.

However, quantum structures seem extremely well-protected against manipulation and even from suppression. Extremely persistent.

I have a theory that the tiny quantum structures are deeply intertwined with the whole universe itself in causality (both ways) that's why it's designed to be invincible and timeless (no beginning, no end, time has no meaning in it). This is different from man-made digital systems where affecting one bit does not compromise the whole operating system. If there's any symbol to depict the madness involved is that of a serpent eating itself from the tail like in the Norse myths..

On the other hand, if you can just figure out how to impossibly manipulate the tiniest quantum structure, you could have the power of the universe at your fingertips. Equations say it's impossible but you'll never know.

What you describe sounds like nature or elemental spirits. Sometimes they come in the guise as animals or fairies. The Outlander series touches on this. Although it's fiction there's truths woven in the text I sensed when I read it. Your experiences could also be the result of ley lines. Some locations have more spiritual activity than others. That's why prayer walking is important. It's not enough to pray inside. You must walk the perimeter and consecrate the property.
I had very strong feeling of dread all throughout USA like I'm being stalked by an other-worldly entity. It felt so alien and evil, clearly doesn't want me in USA. But especially stronger in sites important to Freemasonry. I only learned about Freemasonry and about those sites later on. I also felt the same from old churches. And again, I didn't find out these information until much much later on.
 
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