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Are you saying that Jesus shouldn't have compassion on sinners, such as you and me?
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Christian nationalist pastor McPherson: "Empathy is aligned with hell."
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According to what I'm saying Jesus does not condone, embrace, support, enable, endorse, defend, or celebrate sin and worldliness in any way whatsoever.
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Nope. Just pointing out that it starts at the top, now.
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Empathy has nothing to do with condoning the sin. Jesus became man and walked amongst man. He could empathize with us because he endured temptation. He felt compassion for man but did not sin, as man sinned. He opened the door for sinners to become children of God.
The Catholic Church doesn't condone sin by empathizing with sinners. They are say that the Church understands the sin and stands with sinners and encourages them to have faith in our most loving and forgiving Father.
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Yep, first with Biden and now Trump. It's in the government as much as it is in schools and churches.
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Yes but some churches, Catholic and Protestant, are supporting LGBTQ+. Not just empathizing, but supporting, condoning, endorsing, defending and advocating.
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STUCKEY: They'll use emotional, compassionate, kind-sounding language in order to get a woman to think, well, in order to be a good person, in order to be kind, in order to even love my neighbor, then I have to be pro-open borders. I have to be pro-LGBTQ. I have to be pro-choice.”
Kind if a false equivalence. Empathy does not necessitate pro open borders, lgbtq, or choice.
Kind if a false equivalence. Empathy does not necessitate pro open borders, lgbtq, or choice.
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I think it has nothing to do with the "then I have to" perspective. I highlighted that text in your post because I've seen something different. There's another perspective and that's coming from an empathy experience for humanity. The light from that experience, at least for myself, tends to make a person to want to be good, kind and loving to other people. And that has a way of including others regardless of their life styles or political beliefs.
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Open and unrelenting condemnation... yup, that's what the world needs more of. Nothing like the good old days when we could just pick up stones and start chucking. Nope... now we gotta be all merciful and loving. Who the heck came up with that plan? Next thing you know we'll be having supper with sinners and outcasts... good grief, Jesus must be turning over in His grave.
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I prefer people speaking their minds. I think it helps.
'When Americans are asked to check a box indicating their religious affiliation, 28% now check 'none.'
A new study from Pew Research finds that the religiously unaffiliated – a group comprised of atheists, agnostic and those who say their religion is "nothing in particular" – is now the largest cohort in the U.S. They're more prevalent among American adults than Catholics (23%) or evangelical Protestants (24%).
Back in 2007, Nones made up just 16% of Americans, but Pew's new survey of more than 3,300 U.S. adults shows that number has now risen dramatically.'
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Jesus is not in a grave. Congratulations on displaying complete ignorance regarding Christianity. Why those who reject Christ come to a Christian forum to show us they don't know what they're talking about is beyond me.
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The Catholic Church does not support homosexuality, they support homosexuals. The Church does not support sin, they support the sinner.
The Church teaches that all sex, outside of holy matrimony is sin. They don't turn their backs on divorcees, or singles, etc... that take part in sinful sex.
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Forgive me if my attempt at witticism went right over your head. And who says that I've rejected Christ? This cross that's been hanging around my neck for 50+ years would beg to differ.
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Personally, I just hate getting stuck in a box, especially when it's a box filled with people whose ideology I tend not to agree with. FYI, you're perfectly welcome in my box.
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Witticisms aren't supposed to come off as hardcore ignorance.
I'm going by what you put down in your profile.
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But there's also LGBTQ+ advocacy taking place, in Catholic, Anglican, Episcopalian etc churches. It seems to be a very woke liberal Christian thing to do.
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I can't speak for anyone other than the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church doe not advocate for any sex outside of holy matrimony. You can claim anything that you want but it only shows what you don't know.
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That's a deceptive statement considering there's considerably more involved in LGBTQQIP2SA+ than only just fornication.
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The Church does not endorse any sin. It's not sinful to be homosexual. It's sinful to have homosexual sex.
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