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Trump posts racist video depicting the Obamas as monkeys

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I believe we are stuck with said staffer until early 2029.
I think that if Trump wants to lie and blame someone else for this, he should publically call him or her out on it and fire the person. And see where that goes.
 
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I think that if Trump wants to lie and blame someone else for this, he should publically call him or her out on it and fire the person. And see where that goes.
Every day that I awaken and find out that Donald J Trump hasn’t launched a nuclear attack (somewhere), it’s generally been a “good day”.

But should that one day happen, that’s okay because he’ll have a very good reason and it’ll be the best reason and about 30% will agree with him wholeheartedly.
 
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That's the trouble with satire; sometimes it can be too subtle.

Another thing is I think that guy is actively serving in the Navy as an officer or something and their social media is monitored.
 
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Inbreeding is more common in the following states (in alphabetical order): Alabama, Arkansas, Delaware, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Montana, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Virginia, Washington, and West Virginia. Generally, inbreeding is more common in the southeast region of the U.S. and more rural states.

So some truth to the stereotype.

I've lived in ten of those states and have family living there. Things are starting to make sense now.
 
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Trump hasn't exactly hid the fact he doles out crude racist tropes like candy. We are far beyond the old "high brow" Republican rhetoric of "moral hazard" over "welfare queens" even, and some feel emboldened to just make old-fashioned and crude racism "great again".
 
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If? What do you mean 'if'? Although we know that you're not outraged. You think it's 'poor taste'. Which is what you might say if someone belches in church.

In any other western democracy any politician doing this would be forced to resign his position immediately. Please, don't lose focus on this. It's not 'bad taste'. It's utterly despicable. It's beyond shameful. But this is the man. This is who he is.

Absolutely indefensible.
Interesting - and predictable. The link I posted had no effect on the diatribes at all. It was as though it had never been posted.
 
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After the press secretary went to bat saying it wasn't so bad didn't seem to mollify enough people they are saying a staffer posted it to the presidents account. I don't see how that's any better as the account is the official mouth piece of the administration at this point and him not being in control of it should be worrying.


Speaking to reporters aboard Air Force One on Friday evening, Trump said he only saw the first part of the since-deleted video that focused on debunked claims about the 2020 election.

"I guess during the end of it, there was some kind of picture people don't like. I wouldn't like it either, but I didn't see it," Trump said. "I just, I looked at the first part, and it was really about voter fraud."

Asked if he would apologize for the video, Trump said, "No, I didn't make a mistake. I mean ... I look at a lot of, thousands of, things, and I looked at the beginning of it. It was fine."

The video was shared on the president's social media account at 11:44 p.m. ET on Thursday. Following the backlash after the video was posted, the White House at about noon Friday said the post had been taken down from the president's page.

Asked by reporters Fridays who posted the video, Trump said he saw the video first -- but not the racist portion at the end, he claimed -- and then gave it to "the people" to have it posted to his account.




The people? Who are these "people" whom are on standby at 11:44 PM?
 
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It's 2026 in the most powerful nation on earth. Its leader is reposting deeply racists images because he thought the content was addressing an election that occurred 5 years ago....or so he claims.
 
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I think that if Trump wants to lie and blame someone else for this, he should publically call him or her out on it and fire the person. And see where that goes.
I think since this administration cannot hold itself accountable on the big things, doing so on the little things is too much of an ask.
 
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There are plenty of stereotypes that are rooted in a little bit of truth, that doesn't make them any more socially acceptable to say out loud
Yep.
So if the video would have swapped Michelle Obama and Chuck Schumer, so that he was on the gorilla and she was on the zebra, would that have eased the suffering?
The major difference is that in southern states, people actually do inbreed more often, while white people are in some ways, anatomically more like other apes than black people are.
 
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Asked if he would apologize for the video, Trump said, "No, I didn't make a mistake. I mean ... I look at a lot of, thousands of, things, and I looked at the beginning of it. It was fine."

 
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I mean ... I look at a lot of, thousands of, things, and I looked at the beginning of it. It was fine."
That's the kind of detail-oriented person we're looking for in a present. I look at a lot of trade deals. I looked at the beginning of it. It was fine.
 
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The name of the staffer who hacked President Trump’s account and posted the alleged photo has been identified as a John Barron.
 
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Certainly in poor taste...no doubt.

But then again my progressive cousin just posted this on FB 3 days ago

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Which is also leveraging a "decades old trope" that conservative white people from the south are into "cousin relations".

So if we're going to be outraged, we need to have a consistent set of standards.
So which country leader did post a thing of a similar vein?
And wasn't it Obama who did the whole "bitter clingers" routine to describe southern conservatives? "they're clutching their guns and bibles"...that would be a trope as well, would it not?


The "invoking tropes, provided it's punching-up instead of punching-down" ruleset isn't going to win anyone over.
 
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Republicans can kiss the mid-terms goodbye and they only have Trump to blame. He'll claim fraud but we all know that independents and moderate Republicans and all but his base are going to probably stay home. There have been a few good policies but there is no getting around this. I won't apologize for supporting Nicki Haley in the 2024 elections and writing in in November 2024.
 
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Evidently, the full video depicted a bunch of different people with their faces on various animals from the Lion King

So if the video would have swapped Michelle Obama and Chuck Schumer, so that he was on the gorilla and she was on the zebra, would that have eased the suffering?

In the video Biden was a monkey and Harris was a turtle...
Many here may be too young to remember but depicting black people as apes and monkeys and subhuman was a thing back in the 1800's and before the civil rights movement and there was a Supreme Court case declaring that Negroes were only 3/5 human and there fore subjected to being owned by the White man. (Dred Scott). so regardless of the intentions of the person that put up this video it is a big no-no considering our history and should have been known. Trump should apologize and the staffer should be fired, if it was a staffer.
 
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