Jim Banks Calls for Passage of SAVE America Act to Require Proof of Citizenship to Vote

Valletta · Feb 5, 2026

This is a constitutional and commonsense security measure. Over 80% of Americans agree with Voter-ID laws. If you have to show ID in order to buy alcohol or rent a car, you should have to show ID in order to vote.

Jim Banks Calls for Passage of SAVE America Act to Require Proof of Citizenship to Vote

Sen. Jim Banks (R-IN), an original sponsor of the SAVE America Act, called for the passage of the legislation to require proof of citizenship to register to vote and mandate photo ID at the ballot box.

www.breitbart.com

People also have to show ID to get on an airplane or to receive government benefits. It is time.

Pommer · Feb 5, 2026

Valletta said:
This is a constitutional and commonsense security measure. Over 80% of Americans agree with Voter-ID laws. If you have to show ID in order to buy alcohol or rent a car, you should have to show ID in order to vote.

Jim Banks Calls for Passage of SAVE America Act to Require Proof of Citizenship to Vote

Sen. Jim Banks (R-IN), an original sponsor of the SAVE America Act, called for the passage of the legislation to require proof of citizenship to register to vote and mandate photo ID at the ballot box.

www.breitbart.com

People also have to show ID to get on an airplane or to receive government benefits. It is time.

Don’t people swear (under penalty of perjury) that they are citizens when they register to vote?

stevevw · Feb 5, 2026

Schumer called the Save Act Jim Crow 2. Yet 76% of bl;acks support voter ID. This is a good example of the false narratives being pushed to divide people. Its actually racist as its bringing in race as a political weapon.

Yttrium · Feb 5, 2026

We don't go to the ballot box in my state.

Pommer · Feb 5, 2026

stevevw said:
Schumer called the Save Act Jim Crow 2. Yet 76% of bl;acks support voter ID. This is a good example of the false narratives being pushed to divide people. Its actually racist as its bringing in race as a political weapon.

The U.S. doesn’t issue “citizenship cards”; requiring citizens document their citizenship status before voting seems a bit too onerous.

Valletta · Feb 6, 2026

Pommer said:
The U.S. doesn’t issue “citizenship cards”; requiring citizens document their citizenship status before voting seems a bit too onerous.

When you register to vote, the very first time, you show that you are an American citizen. When you go to vote you provide photo identification. Simple and easy.

Gene2memE · Feb 6, 2026

Seems like a bit of a solution in search of problem.

The Heritage Foundation's Election Fraud Map lists 100 cases of 'alien' and 'non-citizen' voting or registering to vote since 2000. There's good reason to distrust that number though, as many of the Heritage Foundation's "proven fraud" cases aren't proven and weren't fraud.

Another election fraud database - managed by Carnegie-Knight News21 - found non-citizens voting/registering to vote accounted for 2.8% of attempted voting fraud between 2000 and 2012. That's 57 of 2,068 listed incidents.

Other research conducted in 2025 looking at election board investigations, court cases and other hearings found that while non-citizens do sometimes register to vote, it's more likely than not that this is due to mistake rather than malice. In 2017, the North Carolina State Board of Elections reported:

A number of non-citizens said they were not aware that they were prohibited from voting. Interviews and evidence show that some non-citizens were misinformed about the law by individuals conducting voter registration drives or, in at least one documented case, by a local precinct official. One registrant in her 70s has lived in the United States for more than 50 years and believed that she was a citizen because she had been married to a U.S. citizen.

stevevw · Feb 6, 2026

Pommer said:
The U.S. doesn’t issue “citizenship cards”; requiring citizens document their citizenship status before voting seems a bit too onerous.

So they have ID for driving, drinking, tax, welfare, travelling and many other things. Why not voting which is one of the most important things.

Aryeh Jay · Feb 6, 2026

Most actually documented cases of voter fraud involved U.S. citizens voting multiple times, in the wrong areas, or for dead relatives. This card/ID will reduce this for reals.

Nithavela · Feb 6, 2026

In general I'm not against such laws, but it is pretty clear that the motivation for them is voter disenfrancisement and that the GOP will do everything to demand such documents, but then turn around and make it as hard as possible to get them. You can't implement such laws for an election in the same year as that election happens.

Aryeh Jay · Feb 6, 2026

Nithavela said:
You can't implement such laws for an election in the same year as that election happens.

You are a genius! Yes! We need to implement these laws days before the election, a week at most.

German ingenuity saves democracy.

Tuur · Feb 6, 2026

Pommer said:
Don’t people swear (under penalty of perjury) that they are citizens when they register to vote?

Shrug. It's never stopped the dead from voting...

Valletta · Feb 6, 2026

Nithavela said:
In general I'm not against such laws, but it is pretty clear that the motivation for them is voter disenfrancisement and that the GOP will do everything to demand such documents, but then turn around and make it as hard as possible to get them. You can't implement such laws for an election in the same year as that election happens.

This issue has been out there now for years, and 83% of Americans support voter ID. This seems like an extension of the Biden story of Jim Crow 2.0., remember Democrat leaders were saying blacks didn't have ID? I don't know of anyone who wants to disenfranchise any legal voter, not one person. I do know that many joined Biden in an attempt to flood the country with over 10 million people in one term, exploiting people in an attempt to gain future votes. I know many joined in the hoax about the border being safe, secure, and closed. I think a good number of those people would welcome illegal votes.

MarcusGregor · Feb 7, 2026

Gene2memE said:
Seems like a bit of a solution in search of problem.

The Heritage Foundation's Election Fraud Map lists 100 cases of 'alien' and 'non-citizen' voting or registering to vote since 2000. There's good reason to distrust that number though, as many of the Heritage Foundation's "proven fraud" cases aren't proven and weren't fraud.

Another election fraud database - managed by Carnegie-Knight News21 - found non-citizens voting/registering to vote accounted for 2.8% of attempted voting fraud between 2000 and 2012. That's 57 of 2,068 listed incidents.

Other research conducted in 2025 looking at election board investigations, court cases and other hearings found that while non-citizens do sometimes register to vote, it's more likely than not that this is due to mistake rather than malice. In 2017, the North Carolina State Board of Elections reported:

A number of non-citizens said they were not aware that they were prohibited from voting. Interviews and evidence show that some non-citizens were misinformed about the law by individuals conducting voter registration drives or, in at least one documented case, by a local precinct official. One registrant in her 70s has lived in the United States for more than 50 years and believed that she was a citizen because she had been married to a U.S. citizen.

It's also important to note that in many, many jurisdictions across the country non-citizens who are legal residents are allowed to vote in local and state elections and would therefore register to vote in order to do so.

Hans Blaster · Feb 7, 2026

stevevw said:
So they have ID for driving, drinking, tax, welfare, travelling and many other things.

In the US:

The "ID for driving" is a license to show that you have been appropriately trained and retain permission to drive. It contains a picture so that it can be verified by an officer (if needed) that the driver is the person on the license.

The "ID for drinking" is just a verification that the potential drinker is above the legal age (21). Any "reliable" document that demonstrates the person is at least 21 will do.

The "ID for tax" is just a number that ties taxable and tax-credit worthy transactions to a tax payer. The only place where that number is stored on my person is in my brain.

I don't know what an "ID for welfare" is.

There is no "ID for traveling".

stevevw said:
Why not voting which is one of the most important things.

I have a voter registration card, but they never ask for it at the polling place. Before I moved here I didn't even have one of those.

stevevw · Feb 7, 2026

Hans Blaster said:
In the US:

The "ID for driving" is a license to show that you have been appropriately trained and retain permission to drive. It contains a picture so that it can be verified by an officer (if needed) that the driver is the person on the license.

The "ID for drinking" is just a verification that the potential drinker is above the legal age (21). Any "reliable" document that demonstrates the person is at least 21 will do.

The "ID for tax" is just a number that ties taxable and tax-credit worthy transactions to a tax payer. The only place where that number is stored on my person is in my brain.

I don't know what an "ID for welfare" is.

Usually there is some form of qualification to get welfare. Otherwise fraud can happen. Oh sorry thats already happened. So they need to tighten that up with even more qualifiers.

Hans Blaster said:
There is no "ID for traveling".

So you don't have to show your passpost when traveling overseas.

Hans Blaster said:
I have a voter registration card, but they never ask for it at the polling place. Before I moved here I didn't even have one of those.

I think some form of qualification is needed. We have it here and they trace you all the time if you move address through other government agencies. Like tax or welfare records. They always find up and if you.

I managed to opt out of the system for around 15 years having lived in England and then somehow falling through the net when I came back. They had no records of me. I sure took advantage of that until I could not any longer. But then I also did not vote.

Now they have me and I cannot vote without verifying my ID. Once registered if you don't vote which I did not do last election. Then they fine you.

In otherwords they force you to ID yourself and once they have ID your then forced to vote. Theres no opt out or you get fined. So we have a high voter turn out. Which is sort of good.

Hans Blaster · Feb 7, 2026

stevevw said:
Usually there is some form of qualification to get welfare. Otherwise fraud can happen. Oh sorry thats already happened. So they need to tighten that up with even more qualifiers.

I'd guess you have to demonstrate that you qualify. I don't know how that works. I'm not a social worker.

stevevw said:
So you don't have to show your passpost when traveling overseas.

I need a passport to enter other countries, which are not subject to US jurisdiction. Therefore, US ID requirements are not relevant.

stevevw said:
I think some form of qualification is needed. We have it here and they trace you all the time if you move address through other government agencies. Like tax or welfare records. They always find up and if you.

We don't live in a surveillance state, or at least we didn't until DOGE stole all of our isolated government data...

stevevw said:
I managed to opt out of the system for around 15 years having lived in England and then somehow falling through the net when I came back. They had no records of me. I sure took advantage of that until I could not any longer. But then I also did not vote.

I have no idea what you are talking about or why it is even remotely related to the thread.

stevevw said:
Now they have me and I cannot vote without verifying my ID. Once registered if you don't vote which I did not do last election. Then they fine you.

I live in a free country (for now) no "voting police" or "kings".

stevevw said:
In otherwords they force you to ID yourself and once they have ID your then forced to vote. Theres no opt out or you get fined. So we have a high voter turn out. Which is sort of good.

I live in a free country (for now) no "voting police" or "kings".

stevevw · Feb 8, 2026

Hans Blaster said:
I'd guess you have to demonstrate that you qualify. I don't know how that works. I'm not a social worker.

Its like any application for money or welfare. You have to prove you deserve it and are the person who is in need.

Hans Blaster said:
I need a passport to enter other countries, which are not subject to US jurisdiction. Therefore, US ID requirements are not relevant.

Ah thats all countries. You cannot enter any country without a visa. Which requires a passport. But just think about it. With all the terror and criminal activities you want to know exactly who is coming in. Which includes people coming in from the US.

Hans Blaster said:
We don't live in a surveillance state, or at least we didn't until DOGE stole all of our isolated government data...

Its good they did as they found billions of dollars of waste and fraud.

Hans Blaster said:
I live in a free country (for now) no "voting police" or "kings".

Ours is also a free nation. We may have to vote but we syill get to vote and choose government. Not have one dictated to us year after year.

In some ways making everyone vote ensures a fair result. The entire population is involved. Whereas large numbers of non voters could result in a skewed result depending on which side decides not to bother to vote.

You never get a proper result with only part of the electorate voting. Anyway voter ID is not dependent on being forced to vote. It just means if you choose to vote you have to prove your ID.

Hans Blaster said:
I live in a free country (for now) no "voting police" or "kings".

Being made to vote has not done any harm and the majority are happy to go along. Its not voting police when people go along and see the sense. Its a bit like road rules. Not everyone agrees but they see the sense for those who break the laws.

Hans Blaster · Feb 8, 2026

stevevw said:
Its like any application for money or welfare. You have to prove you deserve it and are the person who is in need.

Ah thats all countries. You cannot enter any country without a visa. Which requires a passport. But just think about it. With all the terror and criminal activities you want to know exactly who is coming in. Which includes people coming in from the US.

You asked about traveling, not entering another country. Traveling in the US doesn't require me entering the US. I started out here.

stevevw said:
Its good they did as they found billions of dollars of waste and fraud.

They didn't.

stevevw said:
Ours is also a free nation. We may have to vote but we syill get to vote and choose government. Not have one dictated to us year after year.

In some ways making everyone vote ensures a fair result. The entire population is involved. Whereas large numbers of non voters could result in a skewed result depending on which side decides not to bother to vote.

You never get a proper result with only part of the electorate voting. Anyway voter ID is not dependent on being forced to vote. It just means if you choose to vote you have to prove your ID.

Being made to vote has not done any harm and the majority are happy to go along. Its not voting police when people go along and see the sense. Its a bit like road rules. Not everyone agrees but they see the sense for those who break the laws.

Tell yourself that if you like. I don't care. This thread isn't about voting methods.

Hans Blaster · Feb 8, 2026

Valletta said:
When you register to vote, the very first time, you show that you are an American citizen. When you go to vote you provide photo identification. Simple and easy.

When I first registered to vote I had to demonstrate that I was a resident of the place I was voting and signed some sort of paper stating I was eligible. I don't recall if ID was needed at all, but I did have my phone bill.

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