What Are The Needs OF our AI and EV Economy?

Tuur · Saturday at 3:17 PM

Hans Blaster said:
I expect most cars will be electric by then. I'm going to skip past self-shifters and hybrids. The hybrids are the worst of the lot including the worst of both kinds into the same package for a modest decrease in fuel usage.

This is what to keep in mind about EVs: Day Four after Hurricane Helene, I stepped out the company main office in time to see a Telsa Cybertruck roll by, and wondered "Where are you charging it?" Power was out over a wide swath, to the point that at night there were no glows on the horizon from distant towns. Was in a city last month and saw quite a few Cybertrucks and have seen one Ford Lightning now and then, but here we have too far to drive, and in a disaster you just can't charge them.

Meanwhile, Post Helene, we could drive outside the disaster area and fill up. By the time we made that trip in an EV, it would significantly deplete the charge. We could also haul in fuel, which we couldn't do with electricity,

Note that I had bought an electric chainsaw, which I like very much, but without electricity to charge it, had to break out the axe and bow saw when at home until the lights came back on.

Luke81718 · Saturday at 3:35 PM

SpiritMorpher said:
I question it fully. Why is Elon Musk the one leading the world into this new era. He is pretty much the face of EV and AI. He has lied to the world with his fake space x program, as do all in the space empire. They want to force EV on everyone, give tax credits, Uber pays drivers to get EV, tell us it's better for the environment, etc... Then one day God sends a hurricane, and power goes out for a week or two, and you can't even get to the store to get your family food because you can't charge your car. You get fired because you can't make it to work. Well bills aren't stopping. The power company is laughing at you because they're still getting paid. Then, we have AI... Are these being created to serve as vessels for demonic spirits? A tangible body to interact with mankind and take them away from Christ?

You'll get some push back for sure pointing out the obvious fake space program. And apparently, from the comments I've read so far since joining the forum, many here are quite comfortable with AI as well.

It saddens me greatly, though I am far from surprised, just how accepting of these new technologies most christians seem to be.

It appears that many have forgotten that we are at war, or they do not fully understand how this war is being waged and for what purpose. Everything in this world is methodically and purposefully designed to separate men from their creator. And this is the lenses through which, were we wise, we would interpret the world around us and how it is presented to us through politics, academia, art, religion, etc. I would be hard pressed to name a world system that, at this point and for some time now, has not been fully taken over by our adversary.

Luke81718 · Saturday at 3:39 PM

*lense

Hans Blaster · Saturday at 3:40 PM

Luke81718 said:
You'll get some push back for sure pointing out the obvious fake space program. And apparently, from the comments I've read so far since joining the forum, many here are quite comfortable with AI as well.

If by push back, you mean "nobody made any notice of the silly comment" then sure -- push back.

Luke81718 said:
It saddens me greatly, though I am far from surprised, just how accepting of these new technologies most christians seem to be.

It appears that many have forgotten that we are at war, or they do not fully understand how this war is being waged and for what purpose. Everything in this world is methodically and purposefully designed to separate men from their creator. And this is the lenses through which, were we wise, we would interpret the world around us and how it is presented to us through politics, academia, art, religion, etc. I would be hard pressed to name a world system that, at this point and for some time now, has not been fully taken over by our adversary.

Despite the 'napping of the de facto leader of Venezuela and recent missile strikes, we (the US) are not at war.

Luke81718 · Saturday at 3:41 PM

*lense

Luke81718 said:
You'll get some push back for sure pointing out the obvious fake space program. And apparently, from the comments I've read so far since joining the forum, many here are quite comfortable with AI as well.

It saddens me greatly, though I am far from surprised, just how accepting of these new technologies most christians seem to be.

It appears that many have forgotten that we are at war, or they do not fully understand how this war is being waged and for what purpose. Everything in this world is methodically and purposefully designed to separate men from their creator. And this is the lenses through which, were we wise, we would interpret the world around us and how it is presented to us through politics, academia, art, religion, etc. I would be hard pressed to name a world system that, at this point and for some time now, has not been fully taken over by our adversary.

*the lense...

Luke81718 · Saturday at 4:11 PM

SpiritMorpher said:
Thank you for the reminder! I need not war against flesh and blood, for that is not my enemy. As you speak about the comments you've read so far in this forum, I also have noticed something on the entire website that seems to be misusing God's Word. The true enemy has waged war. Religion, politics, education, science, art, etc... are his weapons, weapons designed to attack our mind and what is true reality.

I see that we are both new around here. I wonder if there is a private messaging option on this site, and if it works lol.
I came here for fellowship, not debate. Are you a member of any other forums? I

Hans Blaster · Saturday at 4:52 PM

Luke81718 said:
I see that we are both new around here. I wonder if there is a private messaging option on this site, and if it works lol.
I came here for fellowship, not debate. Are you a member of any other forums? I

Then you have wandered in to the wrong subsection of this site. This part is for discussion and debate.

Best of luck in you endeavors elsewhere on this site.

FreeinChrist · Saturday at 10:44 PM

ADVISOR HAT

This thread had a clean up done of problem posts and responses to those posts.

Luke81718 · Saturday at 11:52 PM

Hans Blaster said:
Then you have wandered in to the wrong subsection of this site. This part is for discussion and debate.

Best of luck in you endeavors elsewhere on this site.

I was speaking to SpiritMorpher, but thanks for chiming in.
I don't believe in luck, debate away.

Pommer · 2026-01-18T00:10:22-0600

Hans Blaster said:
How about we feed the EVs all of the AI data center power? I like that plan.

The AI thing is a ruse to get the infrastructure that will power tomorrow’s world once it goes bust and we will have “overbuilt” and so where are our ‘new customers’?, ahh, EVs everywhere…it will have been almost painless (outside of bubble-bursting-time).

Pommer · 2026-01-18T00:14:24-0600

Luke81718 said:
I see that we are both new around here. I wonder if there is a private messaging option on this site, and if it works lol.
I came here for fellowship, not debate. Are you a member of any other forums? I

Hi and welcome to CF and forum 71!
Posting in the “heathens-allowed” can get a bit hectic, we’re usually gentle with folk.

Pommer · 2026-01-18T00:22:43-0600

Luke81718 said:
I don't believe in luck, debate away.

There’s “luck” Luke, just think how hard it would have been to become a Christian if a person were born in a Muslim country. Why were they “chosen” to have a harder time becoming “saved”?

Yep, being born into the “correct” nation to give us the best chance to get saved, sure is nice, but not “luck”, (from our perspective)?

timewerx · 2026-01-18T01:20:26-0600

Tuur said:
AI data centers seems to have taken the spotlight around from cryptocurrency "mining" centers, but represent a more consistent load than EV at least for right now. Like EV, you have to build infrastructure and generation for the load. Curiously, I'm seen a concerted effort against data centers along the lines of cities saying to rural areas "Oh, you don't want that."

I really hope they don't regulate AI data center yet.

I'm planning to setup a data center myself but will have its own propriety renewable energy infrastructure so that the facility makes its own electricity and not take from the grid and won't take as much space as solar nor wind nor even hydro. The entire facility can be underground and perhaps having a nature park or corn field on top of the underground facility. People won't even know it's there!

Real work won't start after our move in two years. Many are just cashing in the hype without care to the future consequences. I'd like to make a difference if I could.

The problem has solution. We can't just quit and the stupid energy dilemma is not a good excuse!

Luke81718 · 2026-01-18T02:19:58-0600

Pommer said:
There’s “luck” Luke, just think how hard it would have been to become a Christian if a person were born in a Muslim country. Why were they “chosen” to have a harder time becoming “saved”?

The answer to your "why", is Providence.
John Flavel wrote a wonderful book on the subject; The Mystery of Providence. Highly recommended reading.

Romans 8:29-31
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

If God be for us.

The infinite love, mercy, grace, omniscience and omnipotence of Almighty God has placed every individual human being, regardless of region, religion or ethnicity in the best possible circumstances to come to the saving knowledge of Christ.

Luck, has nothing to do with it, but of course, you are free to disagree.

Pommer · 2026-01-18T04:24:26-0600

Luke81718 said:
The answer to your "why", is Providence.
John Flavel wrote a wonderful book on the subject; The Mystery of Providence. Highly recommended reading.

Romans 8:29-31
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

If God be for us.

The infinite love, mercy, grace, omniscience and omnipotence of Almighty God has placed every individual human being, regardless of region, religion or ethnicity in the best possible circumstances to come to the saving knowledge of Christ.

Luck, has nothing to do with it, but of course, you are free to disagree.

From a human being’s perspective it might as well be “luck”…if one doesn’t allow for luck, chance, and randomness, then “free-will” becomes a fantasy.

Luke81718 · 2026-01-18T05:42:51-0600

Pommer said:
From a human being’s perspective it might as well be “luck”…if one doesn’t allow for luck, chance, and randomness, then “free-will” becomes a fantasy.

Gods ways are not our ways, His thoughts are not our thoughts. Gods ways are higher than our ways, and His thoughts are higher than our thoughts.

What free will has to do with this I have no idea. As to human perspective, humans perceive a great many things that have no basis in reality. Such as preferring "luck" or "random chance" to the Providence and divine will of Almighty God.

Hans Blaster · 2026-01-18T09:46:33-0600

Luke81718 said:
I was speaking to SpiritMorpher, but thanks for chiming in.
I don't believe in luck, debate away.

It's a common expression of good will. I don't believe in luck or any supernatural forces.

Perhaps "may it go well for you there" would be more consistent with my beliefs.

Pommer · 2026-01-18T17:46:02-0600

Luke81718 said:
Gods ways are not our ways, His thoughts are not our thoughts. Gods ways are higher than our ways, and His thoughts are higher than our thoughts.

What free will has to do with this I have no idea. As to human perspective, humans perceive a great many things that have no basis in reality. Such as preferring "luck" or "random chance" to the Providence and divine will of Almighty God.

Am I to understand that if you had been born “Jamal” in Iraq you still would have chosen to be a Christian?

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