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Kens A Sojourner · Apr 19, 2020

Im a pretty new convert and trib isnt an area i have spent alot of time on yet. What I do understand about it is mostly pre-trib so im looking mostly from that point of view. But any way would it be that far out of the question to think its great to save up and be prepared because before the Rapture its gonna get tough. But even after the Rapture the next 7 Years (hopefully we wont endure them) is gonna be real tough but through it were gonna get more Brothers and Sisters who convert. Now would it be cool to set cache boxes and such out for them with whats left after were ruptured? Basically prepare the best we can and pay the rest forward? I even thought of ordering a set of bibles for just that reason.

Salvadore · Apr 19, 2020

I prep for natural disasters, times like these. I told my Jewish sister about the supplies just in case

Joined2krist · May 29, 2021

Nice thread!

Greengardener · May 29, 2021

Being prepared is like Solomon's ant story, gathering for a time when supplies will be slack. It doesn't take being convinced of a conspiracy or tribulation to realize it's just a sensible thing to do. Just knowing that we have hurricanes and other natural interruptions is plenty of reason to be reasonably prepared. Years ago a wise lady told my younger new-mom self, "If someone can get $40 ahead in grocery money, they can shop sales and save more money when planning meals." I found that was really $mart advice. Working in emergency preparedness alongside the health departments and EMS reminded me that even the government thinks we should have a certain degree of preparation in place. To be honest, if it weren't for being so privileged in America with our needs met so easily we would all realize that to be reasonably prepared isn't any different than taking food, water, toilet paper and a blanket when you are camping in the woods or an extra diaper or snack in your bag when traveling with a child. For home preparedness, if you do it right, it is just good stewardship and gives you more leeway for hospitality to others.

JM · Jun 5, 2021

Kens A Sojourner said:
Im a pretty new convert and trib isnt an area i have spent alot of time on yet. What I do understand about it is mostly pre-trib so im looking mostly from that point of view. But any way would it be that far out of the question to think its great to save up and be prepared because before the Rapture its gonna get tough. But even after the Rapture the next 7 Years (hopefully we wont endure them) is gonna be real tough but through it were gonna get more Brothers and Sisters who convert. Now would it be cool to set cache boxes and such out for them with whats left after were ruptured? Basically prepare the best we can and pay the rest forward? I even thought of ordering a set of bibles for just that reason.

I won't debate eschatology in this forum but tribulation will come, no matter what, it will come.

FredVB · Mar 16, 2023

Whenever rapture comes, which is only about real believers being caught up to be with the Lord, even if before the prophesied tribulation period, it does not mean there won't be disasters we, believers and all, go through, before then. Believers being caught up to be with the Lord is really about not leaving believers here in this world while judgment from God on the unrepentant on this earth for the wickedness, materialism, exploitation, and destructiveness, which God hates, will come. Believers have always been going through disasters along with others. It is better to be prepared in ways we can be, which is a good thing, with there being responsibilities for us. I am sure it is not good to stay with society with its unrepentant wickedness, materialism, exploitation, and destructiveness, and move out with some others, believers with other believers, on land to independently grow things for all that would be needed, with living sustainably to not be a part of all the rest, with coming to more godliness as we should. We need that to be made known to us for that, none of us should depart from God, but we can live in a way that was for a model for any.

SavedByGrace3 · Mar 16, 2023

FredVB said:
Whenever rapture comes, which is only about real believers being caught up to be with the Lord, even if before the prophesied tribulation period, it does not mean there won't be disasters we, believers and all, go through, before then. Believers being caught up to be with the Lord is really about not leaving believers here in this world while judgment from God on the unrepentant on this earth for the wickedness, materialism, exploitation, and destructiveness, which God hates, will come. Believers have always been going through disasters along with others. It is better to be prepared in ways we can be, which is a good thing, with there being responsibilities for us. I am sure it is not good to stay with society with its unrepentant wickedness, materialism, exploitation, and destructiveness, and move out with some others, believers with other believers, on land to independently grow things for all that would be needed, with living sustainably to not be a part of all the rest, with coming to more godliness as we should. We need that to be made known to us for that, none of us should depart from God, but we can live in a way that was for a model for any.

I think if time lasts Christians will do this (gather with each other). Not just because we want to "come out from among them..." but because they are going to drive us out. Christians are becoming more and more "disliked" in this culture. We are against all things things this culture loves, and they are getting pretty tired of us. Like Lot, it is easy for us to become vexed in our souls being around the abominations and blasphemy we see every day.

2 Peter 2:7-8 KJV
7. And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:
8. (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;

FredVB · Mar 18, 2023

SavedByGrace3 said:
I think if time lasts Christians will do this (gather with each other). Not just because we want to "come out from among them..." but because they are going to drive us out. Christians are becoming more and more "disliked" in this culture. We are against all things things this culture loves, and they are getting pretty tired of us. Like Lot, it is easy for us to become vexed in our souls being around the abominations and blasphemy we see every day.

2 Peter 2:7-8 KJV
7. And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:
8. (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;

There is something to this, persecution will drive some out to the hills. But the collapse is coming, and we who are believers don't belong where some of us have to be told to come out from her. It is not where believers should be. What God said from the start should be observed. God hates what comes from the civilization.

SavedByGrace3 · Mar 18, 2023

FredVB said:
There is something to this, persecution will drive some out to the hills. But the collapse is coming, and we who are believers don't belong where some of us have to be told to come out from her. It is not where believers should be. What God said from the start should be observed. God hates what comes from the civilization.

The wife and I were just saying that we do not think man was every intended to exist in these crowded, filthy cities.

FredVB · Mar 20, 2023

SavedByGrace3 said:
The wife and I were just saying that we do not think man was every intended to exist in these crowded, filthy cities.

I am glad to find any believers who agree to that much. I take it further, while I think when the rapture of believers from here to be with the Lord is most uncertain, the collapse and fall will come shortly, while we will very probably still be in this world, while believers are supposed to come out from it, even now, and before the collapse. Remember Lot's wife. More things of prophecy will be fulfilled later.

SavedByGrace3 · Apr 13, 2023

If a person needs fishmox (over the counter amoxicillin) now would be the time to get it. My understanding is that this over the counter pet medicine will become illegal without a prescription from a vet come June 1.

FredVB · Monday at 7:52 AM

The design from God was with having our food growing, we now should work on the ways possible for that, this did not include being in cities. Modern cities are just so unnatural for us, or anything really, while there is more destruction in this world with them. God hates that. Remember Revelation 11:18?

I was posting in here earlier hoping for communication with any seeing likewise in any of this. I went then to Eschatology Forum in this CF site to speak of the collapse not being far off and that is consistent with the Bible, with passages pertaining to that. Others should hear this. Specifically Revelation 18 is really tied to Isaiah 24 with what things are in common that are shared. If we did come out, as depicted, as we do not belong in the city, we could live in ways that are not nearly so destructive in the world, to any environments, and we could with choosing it live with the proper stewardship we were to have in this world as God required that, growing what can be for what is needed and with the simplicity in this way not taking much from the world, which can then thrive. Doing anything in this direction involved preparation, while community is desirable so having others found to join for that is called for.

SavedByGrace3 · Monday at 2:07 PM

FredVB said:
The design from God was with having our food growing, we now should work on the ways possible for that, this did not include being in cities. Modern cities are just so unnatural for us, or anything really, while there is more destruction in this world with them. God hates that. Remember Revelation 11:18?

I was posting in here earlier hoping for communication with any seeing likewise in any of this. I went then to Eschatology Forum in this CF site to speak of the collapse not being far off and that is consistent with the Bible, with passages pertaining to that. Others should hear this. Specifically Revelation 18 is really tied to Isaiah 24 with what things are in common that are shared. If we did come out, as depicted, as we do not belong in the city, we could live in ways that are not nearly so destructive in the world, to any environments, and we could with choosing it live with the proper stewardship we were to have in this world as God required that, growing what can be for what is needed and with the simplicity in this way not taking much from the world, which can then thrive. Doing anything in this direction involved preparation, while community is desirable so having others found to join for that is called for.

We resolved many years ago to stay out of cities. They are like powder kegs ready to blow. 2 weeks without food or power, and there will be riots, looting, killing, you name it.
26 years ago, we moved to a quiet little community 50 miles from the nearest city. Today, several developments have sprung up around us (suburban sprawl, commuter communities) that we do not like. But we are where we are, and since we are in our 70s, it is unlikely we will be going anywhere. We have a very nice garden setup and are canning and freeze-drying a lot of food. Communities of like-minded people are desirable. My son belongs to an Assembly of God Church that is promoting both self-sufficiency and community trust. It would be ideal to come together and share all things as one. I wish I could see it.
We had a Christian "commune" back in the 70s that had a lot of potential but was made up of only young people (i.e., Jesus people) who did not have the dedication or discipline to make it work.

FredVB · Wednesday at 7:54 AM

SavedByGrace3 said:
We resolved many years ago to stay out of cities. They are like powder kegs ready to blow. 2 weeks without food or power, and there will be riots, looting, killing, you name it.
26 years ago, we moved to a quiet little community 50 miles from the nearest city. Today, several developments have sprung up around us (suburban sprawl, commuter communities) that we do not like. But we are where we are, and since we are in our 70s, it is unlikely we will be going anywhere. We have a very nice garden setup and are canning and freeze-drying a lot of food. Communities of like-minded people are desirable. My son belongs to an Assembly of God Church that is promoting both self-sufficiency and community trust. It would be ideal to come together and share all things as one. I wish I could see it.
We had a Christian "commune" back in the 70s that had a lot of potential but was made up of only young people (i.e., Jesus people) who did not have the dedication or discipline to make it work.

I am not young either. I came online just later in life, much of my life there was no accessible internet. I soon was giving communication for needed changes as I was beginning to see a lot of information that I saw called for that. I want to change from dependence on things from civilization with being independent and apart from it with sustainable ways still, but it should be with any others. But in any case many more should be seeing that they should come to that, maybe with better chance of having others along to do that. It should not be isolated attempts. That will not lead to what is needed.

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