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Apple Sky · 2025-12-18T07:34:13-0600

David Lamb said:
So as I suggested earlier, you don't know who posted the video.

Does it matter who posted the video ? This still doesn't render the articles in the video as untrue.

d taylor · 2025-12-18T07:36:15-0600

David Lamb said:
Well, I tried a search for "Guiding Hand of the Zion Colony" and it brought up just one hit, an AI overview starting:

"The phrase "Guiding Hand of the Zion Colony" is not a widely known historical term, but it is the name of a specific museum exhibition. It may also be a descriptive phrase referring to the spiritual leadership within certain religious communities, particularly the Shakers or the Mormon pioneers, who established "Zion" colonies."

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Ok so the person in 2025 is not well known and not well known by some articles name that a writer applied to the person.

I had never heard of him till this thread.

David Lamb · 2025-12-18T07:44:58-0600

Apple Sky said:
Does it matter who posted the video ? This still doesn't render the articles in the video as untrue.

But (again I am repeating what I have written before about this matter) the articles are posted as though the newspaper were publishing them as serious scientific findings. We don't know if that is so or not. Also, if the person who posted the video was so sure of his facts, why did he post it anonymously?

Apple Sky · 2025-12-18T07:48:14-0600

d taylor said:
I had never heard of him till this thread.

I'd never heard of the "Guiding Hand of the Zion Colony" until this thread.

Apple Sky · 2025-12-18T07:50:47-0600

David Lamb said:
why did he post it anonymously?

He didn't he is known as 'Odysee'.

d taylor · 2025-12-18T07:52:31-0600

David Lamb said:
Well, I tried a search for "Guiding Hand of the Zion Colony" and it brought up just one hit, an AI overview starting:

"The phrase "Guiding Hand of the Zion Colony" is not a widely known historical term, but it is the name of a specific museum exhibition. It may also be a descriptive phrase referring to the spiritual leadership within certain religious communities, particularly the Shakers or the Mormon pioneers, who established "Zion" colonies."

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Maybe this is what you need.

Apple Sky · 2025-12-18T11:05:53-0600

prodromos said:
Poor Rob, no one will let him rest in peace.

I will not let Rob to have died in vain, his good work needs telling to the world.

d taylor · 2025-12-18T11:31:23-0600

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This is the nonsense science has brought into christianity

https://www.christianforums.com/thr...iving-on-other-planets.8339384/#post-78342280

prodromos · 2025-12-18T12:01:54-0600

Kathleen30 said:
Thats right Prodromos. Geocentrism was the prevalent view of the Orthodox Church along the Protestant and Catholic Church there was certainly nothing else that looked like a prevailing view until the 16 century that even looked like a competitor until the Heliocentric model began . And you did mention the Orthodox Church did you not in your post 48. before unleashing your brutal remarks in saying I was Full of it. Maybe you should read more carefully before shooting your mouth off with such brutal comments more so when they turn out not to be true.

And still, I never claimed that the Orthodox Church NEVER embraced Ptolemy's system, which is what you falsely claimed I said. Perhaps you should read more carefully before shooting your mouth off. I had pointed out that in Greece, Aristarchus of Samos had already shown evidence of the earth orbiting the sun before the 2nd Century BC, so whereas geocentrism was the only view in many other countries it was not so in Greece, nor was it dogmatically declared to be so in the Eastern Churches, unlike Rome.

Apple Sky · 2025-12-18T13:14:24-0600

d taylor said:
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This is the nonsense science has brought into christianity

https://www.christianforums.com/thr...iving-on-other-planets.8339384/#post-78342280

It's weird what people will believe today, why can't they just come to see whats right in front of their eyes ?

There's none so blind as those who will not see.

Apple Sky · 2025-12-18T13:18:24-0600

Apple Sky said:
I will not let Rob to have died in vain, his good work needs telling to the world.

@prodromos

You laugh when you have no answer.

prodromos · 2025-12-18T13:28:59-0600

Apple Sky said:
@prodromos

You laugh when you have no answer.

I have given plenty of responses to Rob's failures in the past. I'm laughing at your nonsense post.

Kathleen30 · 2025-12-18T14:27:36-0600

Where did you ever mention Aristarchus in your post 48 or anywhere else in this post on that matter. You didn't’. Aristotle also also believed in a heliocentric viewpoint but it was never accepted. Everyone went with Ptolemy”s system . I never said the Orthodox dogmatically believed as the Roman Church did but they believed in Geocentrism. More so than what they believed of Aristotle or Aristarchus in their their belief about heliocentricity. all I wrote on my post 47 to your reply of when you asked who were they . I wrote post 47 that this was the accepted viewpoint of most Christian nations at the time be they Roman Catholic the Orthodox Church and the Protestant church. I never mentioned any church being dogmatic on the matter. Only that Geocentrism was the predominant belief . So that gives you the right to say I’m full of it ( twice ) once in post 48 and then later in another post and in another post some pathetic statement saying that you have unveiled my falsehood. ???Is this because of Aristarchus you have done this ??? who you did not even mention in your post 48.??? And who was never really taken seriously nor really accepted by anyone on the matter little lone Aristotle when it came to Heliocentrism .. Prodromus perhaps you should seriously think about what you said in calling someone full of it .???? And saying you revealed their falsehood over the matter of my post 47 It’s not a light thing to make such false accusations.. that’s all I say

prodromos · 2025-12-18T17:21:04-0600

Kathleen30 said:
Where did you ever mention Aristarchus in your post 48 or anywhere else in this post on that matter. You didn't’.

I included a link to Wikipedia in the text of my post regarding how long heliocentrism has been a consideration.

prodromos · 2025-12-18T17:26:48-0600

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prodromos · 2025-12-18T17:36:06-0600

Kathleen30 said:
It’s not a light thing to make such false accusations.. that’s all I say

Yet you continue to double down on your false accusation that I claimed the Orthodox Church never accepted geocentrism. Perhaps you should remove the beam from your own eye.

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