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Ridiculous. It has been proven the auto pen was used more than an actual signature.
That's not the point. You're moving the goalposts.

You need to establish that Biden lacked cognitive capacity (which can only be done by a doctor) and that autopen was used without his knowledge.
You prove in court Biden was cognitive enough to carry out presidential duties.
Burden of proof is on the accuser. So far, no evidence whatsoever has been provided.
 
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You can't even establish that much, though. And that's still not a trial and conviction.
Designated terrorist are not always afforded a trial. Sometimes it is just elimination that has been done under multiple administrations.
 
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By paying attention. Those "go-fast" boats have a range of no more than a few hundred miles so they have to tranship at some point. The boats from Venezuela were probably heading for Trinidad and Tobago for offloading to a seagoing vessel bound for Europe.. European drug agencies have tracked them, of course, having the mother ships in mind as their main target. One of the reasons Europe stopped sharing intel with us, because blowing up the individual boats does little in the long run to stop the drugs and our slipshod handling of Intel might reveal their sources. No, blowing up those boats does little good. In the Pacific the Coast Guard is actually doing some really good work by stopping the bats and arresting the crew. In the Carribean the "war on drugs" is mostly part of a power game Trump is playing with Maduro and blowing up the boats and killing the crews is just a show to satisfy the Christian Right's lust for blood.

Exactly. Blowing up a few boats is an incredibly ineffective means to go after cartels. But hey, Hegseth gets to show off cool videos of exploding boats.
 
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That's not the point. You're moving the goalposts.

You need to establish that Biden lacked cognitive capacity (which can only be done by a doctor) and that autopen was used without his knowledge.

Burden of proof is on the accuser. So far, no evidence whatsoever has been provided.
Baloney, an elementary student could watch the videos and determine Biden was not cognitively in the game. Like Wing2000 said to me “don’t embarrass yourself “.
 
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Exactly. Blowing up a few boats is an incredibly ineffective means to go after cartels. But hey, Hegseth gets to show off cool videos of exploding boats.
It does send a message.
 
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Exactly. Blowing up a few boats is an incredibly ineffective means to go after cartels. But hey, Hegseth gets to show off cool videos of exploding boats.
Aren’t they cool! Those drugs will never kill .
 
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The boats from Venezuela were probably heading for Trinidad and Tobago for offloading to a seagoing vessel bound for Europe..
“Probably” really! Even if true the Europeans should thank us. Less drugs more lives saved.
 
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Especially when you can machine gun survivors in the water and Christians cheer. It certainly sends a message about Christianity.
Your evidence for machine gun fire is what!
 
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Your evidence for machine gun fire is what!

Come on out and see! Certainly no one is going to post it on their Facebook account with all the attention.
 
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Your evidence for machine gun fire is what!
Well, you're right. I don't know if it was actually machine gun fire*--that's just what was used in the example in the military's illegal order training.
What difference does it make? As long as the survivors were killed, isn't that enough for you?

*edit--it was probably a Reaper drone armed with Hellfire missiles.
 
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Not everyone agrees with you. In combat when a target is hit and some are missed unless they come out with white flags mop up is usually done.
False. "White flags" are not necessary in any circumstance, and particularly not at sea. The LOAC is very specific about the sea situation.
 
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