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I'm talking about the "double tap" to finish off survivors. For the military that is flat-out unlawful.
Not everyone agrees with you. In combat when a target is hit and some are missed unless they come out with white flags mop up is usually done.
 
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So murdering them in cold blood is OK? Got it. This is a Christian forum, after all, so it is good to know the Christian position on the matter. Thanks.
Acts of war are not murder in cold blood. The drug runners are the murders. This is a Christian forum but we still see support for abortion, transgender ideology, open rebellion in the streets, attempted and actual murder of conservative leaders. So if some want express sympathy for narco terrorist why be surprised!
 
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I'm talking about the "double tap" to finish off survivors. For the military that is flat-out unlawful.
If it takes three “taps” to sink the boat, go for it. Stopping the drugs is the goal, right! All of the hoop la is just about hating Trump. Who shows outrage at the thousands killed by the drugs or the rapes murders and human trafficking by the cartels? This phony concern for drug runners is quite amazing.
 
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I don't know if any of the strikes were lawful. It seems to depend on who you ask
Correct. A Trump hater or one concerned about the thousands who die because of these drugs. It really does matter who you ask!
 
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Maybe I have a misunderstanding of what a follower of Christ means.
War is nasty business. You do realize the God himself directed war that resulted in total destruction of entire groups!
 
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Not everyone agrees with you. In combat when a target is hit and some are missed unless they come out with white flags mop up is usually done.

That is flat out wrong.

“I can’t imagine anyone, no matter what the circumstance, believing it is appropriate to kill people who are clinging to a boat in the water,” said Michael Schmitt, a former Air Force lawyer and professor emeritus at the U.S. Naval War College. “That is clearly unlawful.”

 
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When were they convicted of such a crime?
When they hit the open seas with a boat load of illegal drugs. They knew the risks and chose to take it. Try some concern for those in this nation affected by those illegal drugs.
 
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When they hit the open seas with a boat load of illegal drugs. They knew the risks and chose to take it. Try some concern for those in this nation affected by those illegal drugs.

Was Trump expressing concern when he pardoned this man?

Juan Orlando Hernández, Former President of Honduras, Sentenced to 45 Years in Prison for Conspiring to Distribute More Than 400 Tons of Cocaine and Related Firearms Offenses​



Don't embarass yourself further pretending that Donald J Trump cares one bit about those affected by illegal drugs.
 
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Prove that in court, or admit it's a false accusation.
Ridiculous. It has been proven the auto pen was used more than an actual signature. You prove in court Biden was cognitive enough to carry out presidential duties.
 
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Don't embarass yourself further pretending that Donald J Trump cares one bit about those affected by illegal drugs.
You mean like some embarrass themselves by support for the previous administration that allowed much of this to happen.
 
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And you know that how?
By paying attention. Those "go-fast" boats have a range of no more than a few hundred miles so they have to tranship at some point. The boats from Venezuela were probably heading for Trinidad and Tobago for offloading to a seagoing vessel bound for Europe.. European drug agencies have tracked them, of course, having the mother ships in mind as their main target. One of the reasons Europe stopped sharing intel with us, because blowing up the individual boats does little in the long run to stop the drugs and our slipshod handling of Intel might reveal their sources. No, blowing up those boats does little good. In the Pacific the Coast Guard is actually doing some really good work by stopping the bats and arresting the crew. In the Carribean the "war on drugs" is mostly part of a power game Trump is playing with Maduro and blowing up the boats and killing the crews is just a show to satisfy the Christian Right's lust for blood.
 
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When they hit the open seas with a boat load of illegal drugs.
You can't even establish that much, though. And that's still not a trial and conviction.
They knew the risks and chose to take it. Try some concern for those in this nation affected by those illegal drugs.
Drug users know the risks and choose to take them.
 
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Trump is playing with Maduro and blowing up the boats and killing the crews is just a show to satisfy the Christian Right's lust for blood.
Ridiculous statement not founded in reality.
 
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