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ThatRobGuy said:
When?
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Europe has several successful Democratic Socialists countries.
ThatRobGuy said:
...and don't bring up the Nordic countries, they're not socialism, they're capitalist models with an expanded welfare state. (which is different than socialism)
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They are Democratic Socialist countries that have a mixture of Capitalism and Socialism. You seem to mean pure Socialism with an authoritarian government.
 
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GoldenBoy89 said:
An irrational fear that Muslims are going to take over the country is not criticism of Islam. This is textbook Islamophobia.
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Well? Maybe some people had bad experiences or have other reasons to feel that way? Although I do understand what you’re saying.

People shouldn’t fear most Muslims because 99.99999% of Muslims are good, loving people.

The extremists who kill in the name of Islam is something anyone should be fearful of.
 
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Hans Blaster said:
'islamophobia' is a dumb term for bigotry against Muslims and it is propaganda.*

When people are bigoted against Muslims, we should just call it what it is -- bigotry.

Like all religions, Islam has issues and can be criticized, though this is not the place.


* it was ginned up by some arab lobby org. I think CAIR. They were trying to ride the coattails of "homophobia" which was a term that did reflect many reactions to LGB people at the time as closeting was very common and a lot of people did just have irrational fear of homosexuality. Though now-a-days most of that is also just bigotry.
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Yes. I think that’s fair.

I know of many Muslim refugees in my city and they are good people. They have a right to live like anyone else.
 
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Hans Blaster said:
'islamophobia' is a dumb term for bigotry against Muslims and it is propaganda.*

When people are bigoted against Muslims, we should just call it what it is -- bigotry.

Like all religions, Islam has issues and can be criticized, though this is not the place.


* it was ginned up by some arab lobby org. I think CAIR. They were trying to ride the coattails of "homophobia" which was a term that did reflect many reactions to LGB people at the time as closeting was very common and a lot of people did just have irrational fear of homosexuality. Though now-a-days most of that is also just bigotry.
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I dunno - I'd characterize some of the claims made about Islam in this thread as "irrational fear".
 
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RocksInMyHead said:
I dunno - I'd characterize some of the claims made about Islam in this thread as "irrational fear".
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Irrational fear and irrational hatred are hard to distinguish. Classically the "phobias" are debilitating mental conditions.

If you have an all consuming fear of Muslims such that you can't enter public space where Muslims might be then you probably have "Muslimaphobia". Otherwise you probably don't.
 
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Nithavela said:
Your stated desire to change the constitution to ban islam after learning that muslims will outnumber christians in 75 years reminds me of a child trying to change the rules once they start losing a game.
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Well, there's a difference between losing a game, and losing a nation, and even losing the world, as examples of differences in degrees of severity.
 
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Fortunately, we have our own reasons for retaining the secular government our Founders set forth.
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If what they set forth was meant to be secular, why did they mention God so many times in the state constitutions?
"The U.S. Constitution never explicitly mentions God or the divine, but the same cannot be said of the nation’s state constitutions. In fact, God or the divine is mentioned at least once in each of the 50 state constitutions and nearly 200 times overall, according to a Pew Research Center analysis."
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God or the divine is referenced in every state constitution

God or the divine is mentioned at least once in each of the 50 state constitutions and nearly 200 times overall.
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Hans Blaster said:
Irrational fear and irrational hatred are hard to distinguish. Classically the "phobias" are debilitating mental conditions.

If you have an all consuming fear of Muslims such that you can't enter public space where Muslims might be then you probably have "Muslimaphobia". Otherwise you probably don't.
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"Phobias" are also just a derogatory label people use to slander those making a valid argument against something.
 
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RocksInMyHead said:
I dunno - I'd characterize some of the claims made about Islam in this thread as "irrational fear".
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If nobody can see and feel the things about Islam that I do, then all I can say is that maybe I have inherited some epigenetic effects from an ancestor who saw Islam *exactly* the same way I do, and so my DNA is pushing me into protection-mode, which was prepared for me, should the exact same neuronal firing sequence take place again.

I'm sure my ancestors fought beside the Habsburgs, during the Battle of Kobolkut, as well as the Battle of Vienna, and I'm sure of it, because it's my ancestral homeland, and I exist - so I must come from the survivors of that.
 
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Landon Caeli said:
If nobody can see and feel the things about Islam that I do, then all I can say is that maybe I have inherited some epigenetic effects from an ancestor who saw Islam *exactly* the same way I do, and so my DNA is pushing me into protection-mode, which was prepared for me, should the exact same neuronal firing sequence take place again.

I'm sure my ancestors fought beside the Habsburgs, during the battles of Kobolkut, as well as the Battle of Vienna, and I'm sure of it, because it's my ancestral homeland, and I exist - so I must come from the survivors of that.
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Pray like your life depended on it. Pray for their conversion and salvation.

Blessings
 
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Aldebaran said:
"Phobias" are also just a derogatory label people use to slander those making a valid argument against something.
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No. Phobias are real mental diseases or conditions.

"Islamophobia" therefore isn't a thing.
 
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