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In conclusion, the Bible presents a clear and definitive depiction of the earth's shape as a flat, stationary, and bounded surface. As Christians, we must embrace this biblical perspective with unwavering faith, recognizing that the authority of God's Word supersedes any scientific claims or theories.

However, it is important to note that the precise form of the earth, as described in the Bible, may not be of primary importance for our salvation. What God has revealed to us in His Word is sufficient for our understanding of Him, our relationship with Him, and our eternal destiny.

The details that God has not chosen to reveal are ultimately known to Him, and we can trust that in His time, we will come to know even as we have been fully known (1 Corinthians 13:12). Rather than spending excessive time and energy debating the earth's shape, Christians should focus on the weightier matters of the faith, such as growing in Christ-likeness, loving God and neighbor, and proclaiming the gospel to the world. For it is these things that are of eternal significance and will bear fruit for the Kingdom of God.
 
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Your lucky, I was just going to give you the laughing emoji ^_^
Still an empty response. No explanation of why is offered, but we all know you don't have any viable explanation.
 
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Still an empty response. No explanation of why is offered, but we all know you don't have any viable explanation.

The sun is not 93,000,000 miles away & I've explained why this is, your video explains nothing but one big fairy tale.
 
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Geometry tells us that if the light source were far way at the dizzying distance that NASA claims, the light rays coming through relatively close-together holes in the cloud cover such as these would be near parallel , not fanning out at divergent angles like we see.
The clouds are actually very high and distant from the observer and cover a massive area. The holes in the clouds only appear to be relatively close together because they are in fact very far away from the observer. In reality they are very widely spaced. The sunlight streaming through the gaps in the clouds are in fact parallel. It is due to perspective that they appear to diverge.
 
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In conclusion, the Bible presents a clear and definitive depiction of the earth's shape as a flat, stationary, and bounded surface. As Christians, we must embrace this biblical perspective with unwavering faith, recognizing that the authority of God's Word supersedes any scientific claims or theories.

However, it is important to note that the precise form of the earth, as described in the Bible, may not be of primary importance for our salvation. What God has revealed to us in His Word is sufficient for our understanding of Him, our relationship with Him, and our eternal destiny.

The details that God has not chosen to reveal are ultimately known to Him, and we can trust that in His time, we will come to know even as we have been fully known (1 Corinthians 13:12). Rather than spending excessive time and energy debating the earth's shape, Christians should focus on the weightier matters of the faith, such as growing in Christ-likeness, loving God and neighbor, and proclaiming the gospel to the world. For it is these things that are of eternal significance and will bear fruit for the Kingdom of God.
You forgot to provide a link to the author, Sixbert Sangwa.
 
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In conclusion, the Bible presents a clear and definitive depiction of the earth's shape as a flat, stationary, and bounded surface. As Christians, we must embrace this biblical perspective with unwavering faith, recognizing that the authority of God's Word supersedes any scientific claims or theories.

However, it is important to note that the precise form of the earth, as described in the Bible, may not be of primary importance for our salvation. What God has revealed to us in His Word is sufficient for our understanding of Him, our relationship with Him, and our eternal destiny.

The details that God has not chosen to reveal are ultimately known to Him, and we can trust that in His time, we will come to know even as we have been fully known (1 Corinthians 13:12). Rather than spending excessive time and energy debating the earth's shape, Christians should focus on the weightier matters of the faith, such as growing in Christ-likeness, loving God and neighbor, and proclaiming the gospel to the world. For it is these things that are of eternal significance and will bear fruit for the Kingdom of God.
Again you have quoted somebody else's words as if they were your own. When you quote somebody, it is usual (and helpful, to avoid misunderstanding) to put the quoted words in quotation marks, and to state whose words they are, in this case Sixbert Sangwa.
 
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In conclusion, the Bible presents a clear and definitive depiction of the earth's shape as a flat, stationary, and bounded surface.
No, it doesn't.
It doesn't do that because that is not its purpose.
As Christians, we must embrace this biblical perspective with unwavering faith,
Why?
However, it is important to note that the precise form of the earth, as described in the Bible, may not be of primary importance for our salvation.
It has no connection at all to our salvation.
What God has revealed to us in His Word is sufficient for our understanding of Him, our relationship with Him, and our eternal destiny.
Yes - and none of this has anything at all to do with the shape of the earth.
The details that God has not chosen to reveal are ultimately known to Him,
He has chosen to allow people tom study, research and investigate how his creation works.
.Rather than spending excessive time and energy debating the earth's shape, Christians should focus on the weightier matters of the faith, such as growing in Christ-likeness, loving God and neighbor, and proclaiming the gospel to the world.
I've been telling you this for months.
It is you, not me, who starts all these pointless threads that don't make any difference to anything.
For it is these things that are of eternal significance and will bear fruit for the Kingdom of God.
Exactly - shape of the earth irrelevant to our Christian lives and a waste of time discussing it.

Are you finally going to listen because AI, or some website, has pointed it out to you?
 
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Not really, not when it comes too F/E & the truth.
So why have you quoted an article, which I presume you were using to make a point, to me when you, yourself have no intention of taking any notice of it?
FE has nothing to do with salvation and isn't important - it is YOU who needs to hear that.

If you want the truth, try believing some of those who are experts in their subject and know what they are talking about. Rather than writing posts which say, "it seems like ....", "it doesn't look that far away" and other unscientific observations.
 
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Rather than writing posts which say, "it seems like ....", "it doesn't look that far away" and other unscientific observations.

I do not write posts like this, it is you who writes posts that parrot & nothing that has any substantial value.
 
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I do not write posts like this,
You do.
You've previously said things like, "well the moon doesn't look 200,000 miles away" - as if to say, "so it can't be."
it is you who writes posts that parrot & nothing that has any substantial value.
Nothing about flat earth has any substantial value.
It has nothing to do with the Gospel or salvation. It doesn't mean you are serving, or obeying, God by posting it. It helps no one to grow in their faith. It doesn't mean that you are/are not saved or have any more of God's love if you believe it.

It's irrelevant.
The earth could be a square, turquoise, marshmallow filled snowball - and it still wouldn't make any difference to the Gospel or to God's love.
 
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Then why are you posting on here ?
I've told you before;
I don't like the implied, or sometimes stated, view that Christians who don't accept flat earth don't read/believe Genesis.
I don't like it when anyone says "the Bible teaches ........" when it doesn't.
Saying that the earth is a specific shape and the Bible backs that up gives the wrong impression to non Christians - although I hope that most are smart enough to realise that anything posted in the Conspiracy section of the forum is nonsense.
And I live in hope - though it grows smaller by the day - that you might stop wasting your time on this, stop laughing at, and mocking, scientific facts, stop posting insults when people don't agree with you and become the woman of God that you were made to be, and can be.
 
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Do you not understand just how far 93,000,000 miles is ? The mind boggles.
How do they get to these fictitious distances ?
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No, of course they do not and the same goes for years.
 
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No, of course they do not and the same goes for years.
I'm assuming you meant light years.

You seem to think God's creation would not reflect His incomprehensible power and majesty. Many of us believe it does. As such, the vast distances across the cosmos simply confirm our creator's awesomeness.
 
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I'm assuming you meant light years.

You seem to think God's creation would not reflect His incomprehensible power and majesty. Many of us believe it does. As such, the vast distances across the cosmos simply confirm our creator's awesomeness.

This maybe but I still don't think God placed the sun 93 million miles away - Think about it!

Nope - He set the sun in the firmament/sky/expanse, oh yeah also the moon and the stars. Read all about it!

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Genesis 1:16-18
 
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