Some nitwit on CF once said that slavery brought christianity to blacks in America. Rendering the latter more important than events which led to its occurrence. One would think you wouldn’t hear things like that in 2025. But we‘re getting dumber and I digress.
Yes it seems that this level of misrepresentation is actually taught in academia.
Society is more conscientious now and the things they ignored for the sake of the past or peace are no longer set aside. They’re not afraid to step on toes or push against ideas/behaviors. Blame applies a lack of wrongdoing and there’s a lot of things they can point to when making their case.
Yes thats true but I think many are throwing the baby out with the bath water. Completely rejecting God and church. The thing is its not as if there is some neutral void that exists. You have to replace God and the churches role with something.
Thats where human made ideas and beliefs come in. Because they are ideological in nature. Often you will see the very same behaviour that the new world moralists were outraged about being supported and practiced among themselves as being ok. Because its theur rules and morals this time round.
But in all of this there is a truth because everyone is fighting for it. The worst byproduct of all this is that theres lots of division and fighting over who holds the truth. That in itself is immoral. One sign of Christ church is unity of mind and spirit. We have no chance at the moment in world politics. Maybe some Christians will get back to setting Christs example.
I don’t feel oppressed at all nor have I heard the same from loved ones or my associates. But we’re not MAGA, political, in the evangelical camp, influenced by the media or knee deep in christian culture. We’re not into Trump, Charlie Kirk, Candace or the things most christians are discussing in this medium. When I speak with believers I don’t bring up the news or politics. We’re discussing our interests, activities and what the Lord is doing in our lives.
Yes I agree. How to live as a Christian within the world ideologies and politics. But I think this is becoming a little harder in that we have gone from a society that once related more to Christian values in the market place where you could more or less speak the same as you did in church on the streets. Now to one that has developed its own ideas and beliefs which conflict with Christianity.
Its more or less flipped today. So in that sense we cannot just freely promote those values within secular institutions. I have worked for government agencies or support organisations who are funded by the State. Theres plenty of times I have had to bite my lip about some policies and practice. In fact in the end I disagreed and we parted ways.
But certainly within the church it is a place where Christians should be able to speak freely and our concerns are different in many respects. Though we are concerned with the poor and spreading the gospel we have to be strategic today. But mostly we do best when quietly working in the background being there when no one else is.
We draw to us that which we are. If you spend your time mired in the negative don’t be surprised when it appears. You’ve created a welcome environment for those entities. You’ve mentioned this so often I can’t help wondering if your ego is involved in some respect. It seems to bother you that things are changing or christians aren’t as well liked from your perspective.
I am actually just signposting as it is developing. I see it over the years and I have lived through this evolution. Similar to the antisemetism that has risen. This is a red flag or sign post of the state of a society in general and not just Christianity. If we as Christians are to proclaim Gods Kingdom then part of this is signposting the coming times.
I see it as the same as highlighting that Christian persecution is growing. Or that people are going hungry and their basic human rights are not being upheld. Not only a Christian thing but a human thing. But fundementally if the bible is truth a spiritual battle that is building towards something. An ideological clash about how we should order this world.
And if that’s the case so what? You knew that going in. So what’s the problem? The world doesn’t have to like you, support you or agree with your ideas or actions. It’s a choice. Many of you have used religion as a weapon or cause for superiority and if that’s failing it’s good.
~bella
You misunderstand what I am saying. I am saying that the overall climate and not just for Christians is heating up. It is not the same as before where Christians could go in the public square and be ok. They are now being challenged to go in and many are scared. Even to the point where they will put the world over their faith.
This is the level the public square has reached or is heading towards. In fact its not just Christians. A person who holds certain beliefs now and expresses them will be attacked, physically attacked and threated for their life. We have seen it over and over.
Thus Christianity is one group among others who are fighting in this culture war and everyone should be worried and scared.
I am just saying for Christians it is doubly so because ultimately if this is a spiritual war then it really comes down to good verses evil. A spiritual battle. Which I think is heating up at the moment.