Another look at the moon landing.

Strong in Him · Oct 18, 2025

Apple Sky said:
All the big wigs are,

You're making a judgement again - you don't know all the "big wigs".
And as for getting their positions of high power, have you never heard of hard work and using the gifts that God gave to them? That is true even if they aren't Christians. Everything was made by God - therefore, their talents, skills and capacity for hard work were too.

Apple Sky said:
Notice the 33 on the flag ?

So Buzz Aldrin may have once been a Freemason? Obviously that means that he always was - and everybody else in NASA was too.

Apple Sky said:
Look, we are discussing a very controversial subject here on this thread, so not everybody is going to agree & to get a point across one has to tell the truth, whether someone dislikes it or not.

The truth is that you don't know - you said it yourself.
You don't know the "big wigs" at NASA. You don't know their faith, you don't know their characters and if they regularly tell lies.
You believe they do - because your own beliefs will not allow you to think otherwise. You can't be wrong, so everyone else - thousands/millions of them - are lying.
Your conspiracy theory beliefs have made you into the kind of person who mistrusts everyone and thinks the worst of them - even calling children of God, liars and Freemasons. Your conspiracy theory beliefs have led you to mock others and contradict yourself.

And the moon landings aren't controversial; but fact.
They happened, more than once, and we continue to explore space. You don't believe that, but that's irrelevant to the truth.
These events are over 50 years old - deal with it.

Apple Sky · Oct 18, 2025

Strong in Him said:
You're making a judgement again - you don't know all the "big wigs".

Like I said, 'nor do I want to.'

Strong in Him said:
And as for getting their positions of high power, have you never heard of hard work and using the gifts that God gave to them?

Surely you mean the gifts Satan gave them.

Strong in Him said:
So Buzz Aldrin may have once been a Freemason?

And still is.

Strong in Him said:
You don't know the "big wigs" at NASA. You don't know their faith, you don't know their characters and if they regularly tell lies.

I know that 33 degree Free Masons do, quite regular.

Strong in Him said:
You believe they do - because your own beliefs will not allow you to think otherwise.

I don't believe they do, I know they do.

Strong in Him said:
Your conspiracy theory beliefs have made you into the kind of person who mistrusts everyone and thinks the worst of them

Not everyone.

Strong in Him said:
And the moon landings aren't controversial; but fact.

The moon landings are just one brilliant fairy tale.

Strong in Him said:
These events are over 50 years old - deal with it.

Surly you mean staged & no they didn't - deal with that.

Strong in Him · Oct 18, 2025

Apple Sky said:
Like I said, 'nor do I want to.'

Exactly.
You don't know - so stop writing as though you do.

Apple Sky said:
Surely you mean the gifts Satan gave them.

Everything that exists - everything, was made by God.
God gives; Satan takes away.
Gd gives life; Satan destroys.

You need to be really careful about saying that things from God are actually from Satan.

Apple Sky said:
And still is.

Even if that is true - it doesn't mean everyone else is.

Apple Sky said:
I don't believe they do, I know they do.

You don't know they do because you don't know them - you have just admitted that.

So, are you lying or is your memory that bad?

Apple Sky said:
The moon landings are just one brilliant fairy tale.

Which you once believed - and you asked God for help in sticking to your new belief.
You even said "it will be hard, but with his help, I'll get there".
You haven't got anywhere - you've failed to ask God for help and have reverted to saying that his followers, and children, are liars.

Apple Sky said:
Surly you mean staged & no they didn't - deal with that.

No I don't; they happened.
I don't need to "deal" with anything - I'm not the one in massive denial.

Apple Sky · Oct 18, 2025

Strong in Him said:
So, are you lying or is your memory that bad?

Strong in Him · Oct 18, 2025

Apple Sky said:
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So you can't/won't answer?
So be it.

prodromos · Oct 18, 2025

Apple Sky said:
Look, we are discussing a very controversial subject here on this thread

The fact of the moon landings isn't the slightest bit controversial. They are some of the most heavily documented events in human history. The space flights weren't just tracked by NASA, but also by thousands of amateur astronomers from their own backyards all over the world.

Apple Sky · Oct 18, 2025

Strong in Him said:
So you can't/won't answer?

Would you like my answer in Chinese or Japanese ?

prodromos said:
They are some of the most heavily documented events in human history.

Jesus's Birth beats them all.

Strong in Him · Oct 19, 2025

Apple Sky said:
Would you like my answer in Chinese or Japanese ?

You can't speak English then?

Apple Sky said:
Jesus's Birth beats them all.

Another nonsensical statement.

If it never happened there would be no documents at all, so even the birth of Mohamed would be able to "beat" it.

Apple Sky · Oct 19, 2025

Strong in Him said:
You can't speak English then?

Well according to you I'm really bad at English.

Strong in Him said:
Another nonsensical statement.

So Jesus 's birth is not the most well documented in history - Okay.

prodromos · Oct 19, 2025

Apple Sky said:
So Jesus 's birth is not the most well documented in history - Okay.

I'm not even sure why you are claiming it is. Christ's incarnation, death and resurrection have certainly had the greatest impact on human history, but His birth isn't by any stretch the most well documented in history. Far from it.
What criteria are you using to make that claim? From past experience, I suspect it is just another one of your made up claims that you haven't actually given any critical thought to.

Apple Sky · Oct 19, 2025

prodromos said:
I'm not even sure why you are claiming it is. Christ's incarnation, death and resurrection have certainly had the greatest impact on human history, but His birth isn't by any stretch the most well documented in history. Far from it.
What criteria are you using to make that claim? From past experience, I suspect it is just another one of your made up claims that you haven't actually given any critical thought to.

I agree, I should have said his incarnation, death & resurrection.

Strong in Him · Oct 19, 2025

Apple Sky said:
Well according to you I'm really bad at English.

Not too hot on grammar or spelling, maybe. Able to write posts in English; obviously.
Otherwise few would be able to debate with you, and this daft thread would not have had nearly 4,000 replies to it.

Apple Sky said:
So Jesus 's birth is not the most well documented in history - Okay.

It isn't.
The most important, or most impactful, yes.
The most documented, no. Jesus birth is recorded by only 2 of the Gospels and maybe by historians like Josephus.
I would imagine the total number of pages come to fewer than ten - half of Matthew 1-3 and Luke 1-3 is about John the Baptist and Jesus genealogy.

Hentenza · Oct 19, 2025

Apple Sky said:
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Yes, they would pass a lie detector test because the physiological changes that accompany a lie would not happen.

Strong in Him · Oct 19, 2025

Apple Sky said:
I agree, I should have said his incarnation, death & resurrection.

I doubt even that is true.

Jesus' death and resurrection - the cross and the empty tomb - have had a huge effect on thousands/millions of people. But how much has been written about the actual events themselves? Very little - a few chapters in the Bible, plus, possibly, a mention by Jewish historians.

How many books have been written about the birth of, say, Queen Victoria? Henry VIII? Various pop/film/sports stars?
Mary didn't write a book or keep a diary - nor did Jesus write an autobiography.

Kathleen30 · Oct 20, 2025

Strong in Him said:
You can't speak English then?

Another nonsensical statement.

If it never happened there would be no documents at all, so even the birth of Mohamed would be able to "beat" it.

Well Stong in him maybe with other historical figures. But certainly not with Muhammad. The only real evidence in documents comes 200 - 300 yrs after his alleged death. Unlike Jesus who we have the entirety of the New Testament written in the life time of the apostolic era.which is called witness testimony . I recommend a u tube video ( what every Muslin misses about the Quran’s origins ) some 30 minutes in duration. Speaker Jay Smith

Apple Sky · Oct 20, 2025

David Lamb · Oct 20, 2025

Apple Sky said:
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O come on! First you try to tell us that the red chevron is a snake's tongue, and that is an indication that NASA is satanic. Now you rearrange the four letters of NASA, stick the chevron in the middle, pretending it's a letter T, presumably claiming that it makes the name "Satan." I am sure we could play around with many acronyms in a similar way, but such playing is no evidence at all.

Kathleen30 · Oct 20, 2025

Strong in Him said:
You're making a judgement again - you don't know all the "big wigs".
And as for getting their positions of high power, have you never heard of hard work and using the gifts that God gave to them? That is true even if they aren't Christians. Everything was made by God - therefore, their talents, skills and capacity for hard work were too.

So Buzz Aldrin may have once been a Freemason? Obviously that means that he always was - and everybody else in NASA was too.

The truth is that you don't know - you said it yourself.
You don't know the "big wigs" at NASA. You don't know their faith, you don't know their characters and if they regularly tell lies.
You believe they do - because your own beliefs will not allow you to think otherwise. You can't be wrong, so everyone else - thousands/millions of them - are lying.
Your conspiracy theory beliefs have made you into the kind of person who mistrusts everyone and thinks the worst of them - even calling children of God, liars and Freemasons. Your conspiracy theory beliefs have led you to mock others and contradict yourself.

And the moon landings aren't controversial; but fact.
They happened, more than once, and we continue to explore space. You don't believe that, but that's irrelevant to the truth.
These events are over 50 years old - deal with it.

Now evaluating can Christians lie it’s never an easy process. But we know from our Bible many be Christian in name only A verse comes to mind Lord Lord didn’t we do this and do that in your name and the Lord says depart from me I never knew you . So there are certainly counterfeits . You mention Buzz Aldrin. Yes he was certainly a Freemason and has never recanted of that he also joined other Masonic organisations such as the York rite and the Arabia shrine temple of Houston. You can find more on that with a search on a website ( www Freemason.com( buzz Aldrin celebrates his 92nd birthday freemasonry ) and it begs the question what Christian would further his Masonic endeavours by joining other Masonic organisations?

Apple Sky · Oct 20, 2025

David Lamb said:
Now you rearrange the four letters of NASA, stick the chevron in the middle, pretending it's a letter T

Lol'z - The missing 'T' stands for 'Test' or 'Time'.

Strong in Him · Oct 20, 2025

Kathleen30 said:
Well Stong in him maybe with other historical figures. But certainly not with Muhammad. The only real evidence in documents comes 200 - 300 yrs after his alleged death. Unlike Jesus who we have the entirety of the New Testament written in the life time of the apostolic era.which is called witness testimony .

Sorry, but you didn't read my reply properly.
I said:

Strong in Him said:
If it never happened there would be no documents at all, so even the birth of Mohamed would be able to "beat" it.

The "it" referred to the moon landings, which Apple Sky says never happened.
IF the moon landings had never happened, there would be no documentation at all about them. You don't write about, record, photograph etc something that didn't happen.
And if that had been the case, Mohammed's birth, with a few documents, would have been more documented than the moon landings, with none.

Christ's Birth is not documented throughout the NT, only in a few pages of Matthew and Luke's Gospels. It was Christ's birth that Apple Sky first mentioned.

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