Another look at the moon landing.

Apple Sky said:

Absolutely! And for all you other guys who don't believe it is there, it's called the firmament, Firm-ament.

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And Artemis 1 went through the firm-ament on November of 2022 and circled the moon. Now what?

Kathleen30 said:

Prodromus firstly NASA knows exactly where the sites of their alleged lunar lunar landings be. They simply punch in those coordinates and you have your laser hit . And your return signal .Dosnt mean anything. And certainly no evidence of reflectors being there

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You obviously didn't bother to follow the links. By the time the laser reaches the moons surface it is no longer a narrow beam but is striking a large area of the moon's curved surface, so what is sent as a brief pulse of light gets reflected back as a longer pulse, as some of light has travelled further and takes a bit longer to return. Thus it does not result in high accuracy. With the retroreflectors they are able to get a strong reflection from a very small area that is distinct from the laser light reflected off the moon's surface, without the blurred time interval, greatly increasing the accuracy of their measurements.

Kathleen30 said:

As I wrote prior they have been bouncing lasers off the moon for a good 10 yrs without the need of any reflectors. It’s just an ingenious way to say that we’ve been to the moon when they haven’t.

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Without the reflectors they get a noisy, time blurred reflection from a broad area of the moons surface. With the reflectors they get a clear, sharp reflection from a precise location on the moon's surface.

Apple Sky said:

As is your claim that man has walked on the moon.

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12 men actually walked on the moon

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The science community is one, one in deceiving people that they can do something that man can not actually do. Also in deceiving people about God's creation.

Now the whole earth had one language and one speech. And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar, and they dwelt there. Then they said to one another, “Come, let us make bricks and bake them thoroughly.” They had brick for stone, and they had asphalt for mortar. And they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, and a tower whose top is in the heavens; let us make a name for ourselves, lest we be scattered abroad over the face of the whole earth.”
But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower which the sons of men had built. And the Lord said, “Indeed the people are one and they all have one language, and this is what they begin to do; now nothing that they propose to do will be withheld from them. Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.” So the Lord scattered them abroad from there over the face of all the earth, and they ceased building the city. Therefore its name is called Babel, because there the Lord confused the language of all the earth; and from there the Lord scattered them abroad over the face of all the earth.

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I once mention Babel on here but as per just got laughed off.

Apple Sky said:

I once mention Babel on here but as per just got laughed off.

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In the age of satan they will have their laugh, but this time of deception is coming to and end and God's true creation will be known.

It will end along with all other false deceptions, like gospels, etc...

Hentenza said:

12 men actually walked on the moon

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They'll probably build a swimming pool next to go moon dipping.

Apple Sky said:

I once mention Babel on here but as per just got laughed off.

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You wouldn't get laughed off if you made intelligent/relevant posts.

What has the Tower of Babel got to do with walking on the moon?

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In the age of satan they will have their laugh, but this time of deception is coming to and end and God's true creation will be known.

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God's true creation is known now - and it's stunningly beautiful.

Apple Sky said:

I once mention Babel on here but as per just got laughed off.

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How does a person reason with people who when they look up into the sky and see the moon, sun and stars.
Believe they are looking thousand's to millions to billion's of miles and light years away into an outer space.

d taylor said:

How does a person reason with people who when they look up into the sky and see the moon, sun and stars. They are looking thousand's to millions to billion's of miles and light years away into an outer space.

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I know, it's just mind boggling & someone on here thinks Saturn is 800 million miles away

Strong in Him said:

What has the Tower of Babel got to do with walking on the moon?

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Sooner or later God will cut them down.

Kathleen30 said:

Yes it takes around hour from what I’ve read. Your site says 57 minutes. But close to two hours if passing through.the belts the long way .The Inner belt 12000 kilometres or 7500 miles. Outer belt 58000 kilometres or 35000 Miles’s. Complete total 70,000 kilometres or 42,500 miles. So taking the quickest route on their alleged journey through the belts at 24 or 25 thousand miles a hour comes to around a hour inside the belt View attachment 371424

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The trajectory is never “the long way”. it does take less than an hour to cross it since the e typical velocity of the aircraft is over 25000 mph.

Kathleen30 said:

Hentenza that may seem like good value at first but you still flying through a highly charged radiation zone. Doesn’t matter if the area that they went through is a little weaker in radiation the reality is that you are still submerged in a sea of radiation and not in a sea of love for a good Hour. Now of those 6 Apollo missions that went through. Not one of those crews suffered any radiation effects. You may say good luck . But luck has limits 6 times Lady Luck did smile upon the Apollo missions ? I do swollow. But I’m not swallowing that . Says to me that they never went though the Van Ellen’s belt and the very reason for no radioactive sickness or contamination or death with any of the crews. And passing their medical with a clean bill of health upon return. View attachment 371424

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The total amount of rads that the astronauts get is 13 which is well within the 300 rads maximum. BTW- everything is studied before crewed spacecraft are sent anywhere. The early uncrewed Apollo missions were test missions where all sorts of testing equipment were in use. Before a crewed mission passed through the belt NASA knew exactly what the effects on the astronauts would be. The testing determined the trajectory, velocity, and amount of shielding needed to cross the belt safely.

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You then bring up the matter of deception. You claim no deception to see here. Hentenza we live in a world of decption. Nations and people have practiced deception for thousands of years . Actually the Bible tells us the whole world lies in wickedness and deceit . The Bible also says that the God shall give many over to strong delusions. So I would think some more deeply on that. Hentenza you did mention telemetry data. As far as me know NASA lost all their telemetry data. And would have solved a lot of problems one way or the other. Kathleen

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The telemetry tapes were lost but because of the nature of computing during those days. But that is really inconsequential because the telemetry, being unencrypted, was followed internationally by a plethora of scientists and amateurs.

Secondly, my father in law actually worked on the Apollo program. I have his testimony, and the testimony of his friends that worked with him. I also have a tremendous amount of memorabilia from the missions. I am also an engineer that worked for Boeing briefly in the 80’s and worked on some of the shuttle components. Among the benefits of the Apollo program was the advance real time studies of components and materials that were used in space.

Thirdly, there is a tremendous amount of evidence that people actually landed on the moon. The lunar lander landing stages for the 6 missions that landed on the moon are still there as well as the flags that each mission planted. In fact, the flag from Apollo 11 fell because they put it too close to the ascend stage and got knocked down. The rest of the missions put it further away so they stand to this day.

Fourthly, the reflectors left on the lunar surface by three of the missions are still in use today. How did they get there if we did not land on the moon?

Of course there is also the 842 pounds of moon rocks brought back by the 6 missions collectively.

Look, faking the telemetry alone would have been impossible. The comprehensive multiple streams of data using unique frequencies alone would have been impossible to replicate from a studio on earth to make it appear that it was coming from the moon. They would have to factor the 1.2 second lag in communication because of the distance. Not only that but they would need to fake it in such a way that it reached the global network of receivers, California, Australia, and Spain among many, at the same time and with the same lag. We can’t even do that now with our advanced technologies. Also if the frequency was coming from earth Russia would have exposed it immediately.

So the evidence that there was no deception is irrefutable and absolute. Twelve men actually landed on the moon. The next stage of the Artemis program will launch April 2026 and will bring a crew of astronauts to the moon and back. You can watch that one yourself when it happens.

Apple Sky said:

I know, it's just mind boggling & someone on here thinks Saturn is 800 million miles away

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Yep. Prove that is not.

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How does a person reason with people who when they look up into the sky and see the moon, sun and stars. They are looking thousand's to millions to billion's of miles and light years away into an outer space.

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The moon is 240,000 miles from Earth not billions as you so dramatically and incorrectly claim.

Apple Sky said:

They'll probably build a swimming pool next to go moon dipping.

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Making fun of facts only shows your ignorance of the subject. I know that you are much smarter than this.

Hentenza said:

Yep. Prove that is not.

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I can't as your science lying so called facts are splattered over every text book a going. Why are people so gullible ?

Apple Sky said:

I can't as your science lying so called facts are splattered over every text book a going. Why are people so gullible ?

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I know you can’t prove it because you have been totally fooled and continue to drink the kool aid. And you think others are gullible? Lol

Now, you are still to address my Artemis post, 3154. Artemis 1 flew the 240,000 miles to the moon and came back. How do you account for that?

Apple Sky said:

Sooner or later God will cut them down.

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For walking on the moon?

Where did any of the astronauts say, "I want to do this because I want to be like God"?
Or, "I'm going to do this to make a name for myself"?
It was dangerous. There was no guarantee the rocket would make it to the moon and back in one piece - some astronauts lost their lives.

So why has God struck Charles Duke down for telling a lie? Worse than that, he is telling a lie and involving Jesus. He has probably changed people's lives, or at least given them something to think about with that testimony.
You should know - it happened to you. The tragedy is that you are taking something which was from God and acting as though it never happened.

Hentenza said:

I know you can’t prove it because you have been totally fooled and continue to drink the kool aid.

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No I haven't & I've given up the drink, hiccup..........

Hentenza said:

Now, you are still to address my Artemis post, 3154. Artemis 1 flew the 240,000 miles to the moon and came back. How do you account for that?

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Ah, the one that flew over the cuckoo's nest, never got past the Van Allen Belts or the firmament.

Apple Sky said:

Why are people so gullible ?

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You're asking US that?
You, who are addicted to conspiracy theories and "can't get your head around science" want to know why people read science textbooks, believe what they read and may go on to get high, scientific qualifications.

You even once admitted that you don't distrust ALL scientists.