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Another look at the moon landing.

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Well it is on globe ^_^
But you have also posted pictures of upside down houses, or upside down signs saying "welcome to Australia" - which are obviously nonsense.
 
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But you have also posted pictures of upside down houses, or upside down signs saying "welcome to Australia" - which are obviously nonsense.

I was just joking around :D
 
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Actually the atmosphere my play a small part. But the real reason is that at a distance closer objects are larger than objects further away. So I can take a 3x3 square cube and cover up a two story house in photographing these two objects if the 3x3 square cube is a foot or two from me and the two story home is several hundred feet away.

I post an example of this on a flat earth thread several years ago, but i can not remember which thread it was (it has been shut down.

So if a person is trying to photograph at a long distance, say the other side of a lake. The lake will basically have to have very little or no wave motion at all.

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I do not have this rude person on ignore, but just like i told this person i am through discussing with him and his insults.

I do not have to put people on ignore, i have enough discipline to leave them and there rudeness to their own self
 
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I was forgetting the motion of the wave impact as mentioned by @d taylor , he is absolutely right.
Once again, if the viewpoint is above the waves, as it was in Rob Skiba's video, the waves have zero impact on what is hidden.
 
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I do not have this rude person on ignore, but just like i told this person i am through discussing with him and his insults.

I do not have to put people on ignore, i have enough discipline to leave them and there rudeness to their own self
My mistake. Yes, to my shame, I have been insulting at times for which I apologise. It is a character flaw I am trying to correct through God's Grace.
I commend you for your discipline.
 
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A large body of water has up and down wave motion and is not flat and still like a pool.
Do you acknowledge that absolutely no-one is taking photos of the Chicago skyline by lying flat on the ground at the water's edge? Since they are always at an elevation back from the lake's edge, and their camera is either on a tripod or being held at eye level, the waves on the lake will not play any role in hiding the bottom of the buildings across the lake.
 
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Only 12 people have. Do you have to go to the beach to know that it exists?

I know the moon exists as I see it most nights but as far as astronauts walking on God's creation is a big NO NO for me.
 
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I know the moon exists as I see it most nights but as far as astronauts walking on God's creation is a big NO NO for me.
Yes, I'm sure it is for you - but that doesn't mean that it didn't happen.

The astronauts' testimonies don't become made up because you don't believe them.
The photos don't become faked.
The moon rocks don't suddenly disappear.
The history books don't rewrite themselves, and the Russians don't start bragging because they were first to walk on the moon.
The first moon landing, where people got out, walked on the moon, read from Genesis etc happened in 1969. That's almost 60 years ago.
Men walked on the moon again a couple of years later, and again after that.

You don't believe those facts. All that means is that you don't believe them.
Millions of others do - including all the astronauts' families, colleagues, people who built the rockets and so on. Claiming that they're all lying/working together to deceive the general public says far more about you than it does about them.

We all walk on the earth, and that's God's creation too.
 
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I know the moon exists as I see it most nights but as far as astronauts walking on God's creation is a big NO NO for me.
As I keep telling you I know for a fact that the lunar landings happened. I’m a witness to it but all you have are the words of a cab driver and a couple of other nuts. Plus I see that another nut joined you here.

I know that you are a smart person that loves the Lord but you are being deceived. I continue to talk to you because you are my sister in Christ. Don’t continue to be deceived. Don’t let the false teachers win.
 
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I know that you are a smart person that loves the Lord but you are being deceived. I continue to talk to you because you are my sister in Christ. Don’t continue to be deceived. Don’t let the false teachers win.

As you are my brother in Christ I have to be honest here, I don't think I am being deceived, I think it is you along with millions of others who are being deceived via NASA & these other space agencies, however I do appreciate your kind concern but I don't think wild horses could shift me from my belief.

God bless you my Friend.

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The astronauts' testimonies don't become made up because you don't believe them.

For me they do.

The photos don't become faked.

They do & they are.

The moon rocks don't suddenly disappear.

You mean the petrified wood.

The history books don't rewrite themselves,

They already have.

The first moon landing, where people got out, walked on the moon, read from Genesis etc happened in 1969. That's almost 60 years ago.

And not been back since.

You don't believe those facts. All that means is that you don't believe them.
Millions of others do -

All being deceived.
 
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For me they do.
But not for anyone else.
They do & they are.
In your opinion.
You mean the petrified wood.
No.
I read a post which explained this. I know you saw it too, but like everything else, you just choose not to believe it.
And not been back since.
The last of the 12 people who have walked on the moon did so in 1972, I believe. Have a look at that chart which I posted earlier.
Even if only one man had walked on the moon only once; it still happened.
All being deceived.
Like I said; a true conspiracy theorist, or someone who is paranoid.
"Everyone else is deceived - not me guv".
 
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As you are my brother in Christ I have to be honest here, I don't think I am being deceived,
A deceived person doesn't know that they are deceived - eg JWs.
I think it is you along with millions of others who are being deceived via NASA & these other space agencies,
That's almost proof of what I am saying.
You believe that millions of people have been deceived - while you and a few others, haven't.
Those millions include extremely clever and well educated scientists, astronauts etc - while you, who know nothing about science, are one of the few who has the truth.

That said, none of this has anything at all to do with the Gospel. If you are determined to believe it, that's up to you; it won't change anything.
There is nothing for us globe earth, moon landing believers to be deceived about - we still have Jesus and the Gospel.
 
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You believe that millions of people have been deceived

They are & are still being.
Those millions include extremely clever and well educated scientists, astronauts etc - while you, who know nothing about science, are one of the few who has the truth.

I don't care how clever people are, even Einstein & Tesla were deceived in the end.

There is nothing for us globe earth, moon landing believers to be deceived about - we still have Jesus and the Gospel.

Very true, for us flat earthers & moon deniers too.
 
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They are & are still being.
For what purpose?

What's the very worst that could happen? Someone, somewhere might one day say, "HA! It was all a con - we fooled you. In fact we spent millions of dollars making sure that we fooled you - all the rockets, etc were fake."
So what?
If the average person was told that they would no doubt say, "so you fooled me; who cares? You spent all that money trying to make sure that I believed in the moon landings - so what? It hasn't even affected, let alone ruined, my life, and I'm not the one in debt for millions of dollars."

Of course they can never say that because everyone knows they did happen; not least the men who walked on the moon.
I don't care how clever people are, even Einstein & Tesla were deceived in the end.
Not the same.

Very true, for us flat earthers & moon deniers too.
Exactly.
Flat Earth or globe earth; moon landings or not - it makes no difference whatsoever to our faith or the Gospel. Unless of course a person spends so much time on it, they no longer bother about the Gospel. (And I don't mean you.)

This is why "being deceived" makes little sense - it has nothing to do with our faith.
The only person who tries to deceive Christians is the devil. And he couldn't care less about moon landings; he just wants to keep people away from the cross.
 
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John Young captured saluting the flag while jumping! A great demonstration of the lower gravity on the Moon. Apollo 16 Lunar Module (LM) Orion and the Lunar Roving Vehicle (LRV) are in the background.

 
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