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Notice the fundamental error in the way people look at this passage because of end of the world teachings.​


1st Corinthians 15:24 then the end, when He shall hand over the kingdom to the God and Father, when He shall have annulled all dominion, and all authority and power. 25 For it behooves Him to reign until He shall have put all the enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy to be abolished is death. 27 For “He has put in subjection all things under His feet.” But when it may be said that all things have been put in subjection, it is evident that the One having put in subjection all things to Him is excepted. 28 Now when all things shall have been put in subjection to Him, then also the Son Himself will be put in subjection to the One having put in subjection all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.​


The end in the first verse where Christ hands the kingdom over to the Father is the cross. Before the cross Jesus annulled all dominion, authority and power.
John 18:6 shows his dominion, authority and power exercised against the government and its soldiers.
John 8:59 over mobs attempting to kill him.
John 9:1-34 over disabilities, in this case a man born blind.
Luke 4:40 over all sickness and disease.
Matthew 8:29, over demons.
John 2:1-11 and Matthew 14:15-21 over the elements.
Luke 8:22-25 over the earth.
Mark 2:3-12 over sin.
Matthew 4:1-11 over temptation.
Luke 5:4-11 over the animal kingdom.​

Verses 25-26 says Jesus reigned until he put all of his enemies under his feet and then he abolished the last enemy death, with his resurrection.​

Verse 27 tells us how he did this, (as a human being.) The One who put all things under his feet when he walked this earth was God his Father. Everything was put in subjection to Jesus with the exception of God the Father. Verse 28 says once all was conquered then Jesus was put in subjection to the one who subjected all things to him. This happened when Jesus voluntarily surrendered himself in the Garden of Gethsemane to the authorities’ intent on killing him.​


John 16:33 I have spoken these things to you so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation. But take courage; I have overcome the world." The word overcome in this verse means to conquer and prevail in battle.
That is what Jesus did AS KING. The fundamental error is thinking that Jesus came only as a suffering servant and will someday return as a conquering king. What he did was come as a conquering king who then gave his life for the sins of the world that God may be all in all, as 1st Corinthians 15:28 says.​

His kingdom that is currently being built is not modeled on the worlds kingdoms of that day. If you want to see it, or at least its effects, as it is invisible; all you have to do is look at the billions who have come to Christ in the last 500 years and how they and the Bible's influnce created a growing free world. There was no such world in any way shape or form back then.​


Fear not Jesus says; Isaiah 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, on the throne of David, and on his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from now on even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.​

 

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Notice the fundamental error in the way people look at this passage because of end of the world teachings.​


1st Corinthians 15:24 then the end, when He shall hand over the kingdom to the God and Father, when He shall have annulled all dominion, and all authority and power. 25 For it behooves Him to reign until He shall have put all the enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy to be abolished is death. 27 For “He has put in subjection all things under His feet.” But when it may be said that all things have been put in subjection, it is evident that the One having put in subjection all things to Him is excepted. 28 Now when all things shall have been put in subjection to Him, then also the Son Himself will be put in subjection to the One having put in subjection all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.​


The end in the first verse where Christ hands the kingdom over to the Father is the cross. Before the cross Jesus annulled all dominion, authority and power.​

John 18:6 shows his dominion, authority and power exercised against the government and its soldiers.​

John 8:59 over mobs attempting to kill him.​

John 9:1-34 over disabilities, in this case a man born blind.​

Luke 4:40 over all sickness and disease.​

Matthew 8:29, over demons.​

John 2:1-11 and Matthew 14:15-21 over the elements.​

Luke 8:22-25 over the earth.​

Mark 2:3-12 over sin.​

Matthew 4:1-11 over temptation.​

Luke 5:4-11 over the animal kingdom.​

Verses 25-26 says Jesus reigned until he put all of his enemies under his feet and then he abolished the last enemy death, with his resurrection.​

Verse 27 tells us how he did this, (as a human being.) The One who put all things under his feet when he walked this earth was God his Father. Everything was put in subjection to Jesus with the exception of God the Father. Verse 28 says once all was conquered then Jesus was put in subjection to the one who subjected all things to him. This happened when Jesus voluntarily surrendered himself in the Garden of Gethsemane to the authorities’ intent on killing him.​


John 16:33 I have spoken these things to you so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation. But take courage; I have overcome the world." The word overcome in this verse means to conquer and prevail in battle.​

That is what Jesus did AS KING. The fundamental error is thinking that Jesus came only as a suffering servant and will someday return as a conquering king. What he did was come as a conquering king who then gave his life for the sins of the world that God may be all in all, as 1st Corinthians 15:28 says.​

His kingdom that is currently being built is not modeled on the worlds kingdoms of that day. If you want to see it, or at least its effects, as it is invisible; all you have to do is look at the billions who have come to Christ in the last 500 years and how they and the Bible's influnce created a growing free world. There was no such world in any way shape or form back then.​


Fear not Jesus says; Isaiah 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, on the throne of David, and on his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from now on even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.​



Your reading of the passage over-realizes the kingdom—placing too much of 1 Cor 15 at the first coming. Classic amillennialism (think Augustine, Berkhof, Hoekema) agrees Christ is reigning now but still sees 1 Cor 15:24–28 reaching its final fulfillment at His second coming, when the dead are raised and death itself is finally abolished.

Amillennialism rejects a literal earthly millennium yet affirms a future, visible second coming, final judgment, and bodily resurrection as distinct from the first coming. This “already/not yet” tension means we live under Christ’s real reign now, but the last enemy—death—is only destroyed in full at the general resurrection.
 
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The end in the first verse where Christ hands the kingdom over to the Father is the cross. Before the cross Jesus annulled all dominion, authority and power.
Unbelievable nonsense.
Jesus GAINED the Kingdom by his sacrificial death!

Your preterist beliefs are wrong, what is Prophesied mostly remains to be finally fulfilled. There may have been partial fulfilments in the past, but never yet total and complete fulfilment.
For example, the Day the Lord sends His fiery wrath, Prophesied in over 100 vividly stated scriptures, has never yet taken place.

The incredible belief of the Prophesies all having past by now, just leaves us today without a future, Has God now abandoned His Creation?
 
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Your reading of the passage over-realizes the kingdom—placing too much of 1 Cor 15 at the first coming. Classic amillennialism (think Augustine, Berkhof, Hoekema) agrees Christ is reigning now but still sees 1 Cor 15:24–28 reaching its final fulfillment at His second coming, when the dead are raised and death itself is finally abolished.

Amillennialism rejects a literal earthly millennium yet affirms a future, visible second coming, final judgment, and bodily resurrection as distinct from the first coming. This “already/not yet” tension means we live under Christ’s real reign now, but the last enemy—death—is only destroyed in full at the general resurrection.

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Well, I'm not an ah-millinialist so....

Matthew 22: 29 Jesus answered and said to them, You err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. 31 But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have you not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, 32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living. 33 And when the multitude heard this, they were astonished at his doctrine.​


This is what I want you to notice. Jesus just taught them that those who had died in the past were already resurrected, as per verse 31. That was HIS DOCTRINE. That was the reason the multitudes were astonished. They believed the resurrection was a one or two time event in the future. That was an error; thinking the Bible's teaching on resurrection was a one or two time event out in the future where dead bodies turned to dirt rise up out of the graves or some other such misconceptions. No different than many Christians today. They could hardly be blamed back then because the OT had so little to say on the next life. Jesus was correcting that view. Somehow much of Christianity is missing HIS DOCTRINE on the subject. Here are some examples of the already resurrected.


Luke 9: 29 And as he prayed, the fashion of his countenance was altered, and his raiment white and glistering. 30 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elijah: 31 Who appeared in glory, and spoke of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem..... 33 And it came to pass, as they departed from him, Peter said unto Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for you, and one for Moses, and one for Elijah: not knowing what he said. Moses was dead and buried, turned to dust, Elijah was raptured. Yet here both men in bodies, already resurrected are standing with Jesus talking to him.


The next example is in Luke 16: 19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: 20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, 21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; 23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and see's Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. 25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that you your lifetime received good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and you are tormented. 26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from here to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from there. 27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house: 28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify to them, lest they also come into this place of torment. 29 Abraham said to him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. 30 And he said, No, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 31 And he said to him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. Verse one says "there was," this is not a parable. Notice one is resurrected and living where Abraham lives and the other is in hell. They all have bodies. They recognize each other. The rich man is tormented, he lifts up his eyes and ask for water to on his tongue relieve his torment. These people are already resurrected in Jesus's day. What you are seeing in all these proof texts is that the Bible's general doctrine about the resurrection is that it is a teaching about immediate life after death in a physical body. Just not physical like we know physical in a flesh and bone body. When your flesh and blood body dies you will step out of it on two feet, look around with your two eyes, speak in amazement or horror out of your mouth and proceed to your eternal density in heaven or hell. What this is known as is: John 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. I'm not ignoring the previous verses John 5. We will get to that. First we need to cover proof texts about the general doctrine of the resurrection being about immediate life after death in a physical body.


Jesus stated: Matthew 22: 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. Luke 20: 36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection. Angels are spirit beings. Spirit beings are not clouds or mists. they are physical beings, they have bodily form. Hebrews 1:7 And of the angels he says, Who makes his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire....14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation? Matthew 28:. 2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it..... 5 And the angel answered and said to the women, Fear not: for I know that you seek Jesus, which was crucified. God is a spiritual being: Jesus speaking: John 4: 24 God is a Spirit: Yet has physical form: Daniel 7:9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire. 10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened... 13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. 14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed. In this passage we see the apostle John mistakes a resurrected man for an angel. Revelation 22: 8... And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which showed me these things. 9 Then said he to me, See you do it not: for I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.​


The apostle Paul's doctrine on the resurrection accords perfectly with all this in one of the most misread chapters of the Bible. 1st Corinthians 15: 35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come? 36 You fool, that which you sow is not made alive, except it die: 37 And that which you sow, is not that body that shall be,..... ....40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another........ 42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in in-corruption: 43 It is sown in dishonor; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. Remember Jesus said we shall be like the angels. That means we will live out our lives in the next life in our spiritual body. this flesh and blood body is just a shell meant for pro-creation. That is why we will not be getting married in heaven. No more pro-creation after we leave this world. That is why God made us. To fill heaven with people. But what about the next verse? 51 Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. Now many think this is talking about a mass resurrection or a mass rapture at the end of the world. It is not. the last Trump is YOUR last trump. Not a last trump at the end of the world. Those prophecies thought to be speaking about the end of the world as we know it are what are screwing folks up on the doctrine of the resurrection. In an instant, in the twinkling of an eye, the second you die, you will step right out of the body in your eternal spiritual body. "So this is not talking about rapture at all?" No, people get raptured. Enoch and Elijah got raptured to heaven. Phillip the Evangelist got raptured out into the desert. We have no idea outside of that how many others have been raptured or caught away. Being caught away to heaven or other places on earth is a real thing. Just not a mass event at the end of the world. Now we'll look at the prophecy that messes people up on the doctrine of the resurrection.

Follow the link if you want to read the rest. The Bible's Teaching On Resurrection

 
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Unbelievable nonsense.
Jesus GAINED the Kingdom by his sacrificial death!

Your preterist beliefs are wrong, what is Prophesied mostly remains to be finally fulfilled. There may have been partial fulfilments in the past, but never yet total and complete fulfilment.
For example, the Day the Lord sends His fiery wrath, Prophesied in over 100 vividly stated scriptures, has never yet taken place.

The incredible belief of the Prophesies all having past by now, just leaves us today without a future, Has God now abandoned His Creation?
Jump straight into accusing me of heresy huh? Well, I'm not a preterist anyway. That is a ridiculous notion that all prophecy was fulfilled with the destruction of Jerusalem.

But how is it you deny prophecy like this is presently coming to pass as a perfectly natural result of Billions coming to Christ and nations influenced by the Bible? Not to mention God's providence in orchestrating it.


Isaiah 29:18 And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.
19 The meek also shall increase their joy in the LORD, and the poor among men shall rejoice in the Holy One of Israel. 20 For the tyrannical oppressor is brought to nothing......

I mean you do know that the general public only began to gain illegal access to Bibles when the Roman Empire ended in 1453 AD. Which by the way is the line of demarcation between the ancient world and this present promised era according to Daniel 2 & 7. I mean it is almost as if God foreknew that was when the general public would begin to gain access to the word of God and that would be the key to the overthrow of 7000 years of rule by kings, emperors and warlords towards free republics established on varying degrees of objective truth. Not that it is a cake walk. But the Bible did not promise one.

Or John 3:17? As if there would be no noticeable natural and providential transformation of the world due to those billions coming to Christ and the teachings of the Bible influencing entire nations in accord with John 3:17?


John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn (pass sentence and carry it out, on) the world; but that the world through him might be saved. The word “world” is kosmos, you know, what 80% of the countries pulpits say God will destroy. Since the komos isn’t going to go to heaven it means saved in the general sense. Healed, preserved, taken from danger into a place of safety

I can list dozens of chapters of scripture like this, all coming to pass as a process before our eyes.


Isaiah 49: 6 And he said, It is a light thing that you should be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give you for a light to the nations, that you may be my salvation to the end of the earth…..8 Thus said the LORD, In an acceptable time have I heard you, and in a day of salvation have I helped you: and I will preserve you, and give you for a covenant of the people, to establish the earth,

To establish the earth, not to destroy it and start over again.

Isaiah 42:1 Behold my servant, (the messiah) whom I uphold; my elect, in whom my soul delights; I have put my spirit on him: he shall bring forth justice to the Gentiles. 2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street. 3 A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth justice to truth. 4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he has set justice in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law…..6 I the LORD have called you in righteousness, and will hold your hand, and will keep you, and give you for a covenant of the people, for a light of the nations;

Isaiah 60:1 Arise, shine; for your light is come, and the glory of the LORD is risen on you. 2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise on you, and his glory shall be seen on you. 3 And the nations shall come to your light, and kings to the brightness of your rising. 4 Lift up your eyes round about, and see: all they gather themselves together, they come to you: your sons shall come from far, and your daughters shall be nursed at your side.5 Then you shall see, and flow together, and your heart shall fear, and be enlarged; because the abundance of the sea (the nations) shall be converted to you, the wealth of the Gentiles shall come to you.
 
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John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn (pass sentence and carry it out, on) the world; but that the world through him might be saved. The word “world” is kosmos, you know, what 80% of the countries pulpits say God will destroy. Since the komos isn’t going to go to heaven it means saved in the general sense. Healed, preserved, taken from danger into a place of safety
You writing method is hard to understand...

(1) because you present bible passages, followed by your comments in the same paragraph (2) you present bible passages as paragraphs instead of the verses as lines.

Keep the bible passage as its own presentation, then followed by your comments in a separate paragraph(s), as I have done below.

John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

The term "world" in that verses is not referring to planet earth itself, but the entire population of humans. Jesus was sent to make it possible that humans could be saved from the power of sin. The power of sin is that it results in a person's eternal separation from God. Jesus's shed blood on the cross broke the power of sin, and humans who believe in Jesus are saved from the power of sin.

Isaiah 42:1 Behold my servant, (the messiah) whom I uphold; my elect, in whom my soul delights; I have put my spirit on him: he shall bring forth justice to the Gentiles. 2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street. 3 A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth justice to truth. 4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he has set justice in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law…..6 I the LORD have called you in righteousness, and will hold your hand, and will keep you, and give you for a covenant of the people, for a light of the nations;
Don't present bible passages in paragraph form like you did above, but instead in line form like that found in the kjv bible. Keep each verse line separate by a space between verses.

Isaiah 42:
1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.

2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street.

3 A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth.

4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law.

5 Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:

6 I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;
 
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Daniel, you titled your post...

Look how pop culture end time teachings color the way we read the Bible.​


What is pop culture ? You never did say in any of your posts. Also what do mean by "color" ? Instead, why not use understandable words like "affect" the way we read the bible ?
 
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Daniel, this forum is the eschatology forum. Eschatology is the study of events to take place in the end times leading up to Jesus's return. For this eschatology forum, make posts that deal with events to take place in the end times.

Do you have any end times timeline charts ?
 
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Daniel, you titled your post...

Look how pop culture end time teachings color the way we read the Bible.​


What is pop culture ? You never did say in any of your posts. Also what do mean by "color" ? Instead, why not use understandable words like "affect" the way we read the bible ?
I would describe pop culture end time teachings as what the entire culture has accepted since, say, the late great planet earth book or movie. If you think about it, unless it involves aliens. The entire culture believes that civilization will end in a dystopian apocalyptic nightmare type situation, I cannot think of a movie ever made about the distant future that portrays civilization in the future as way better as time goes on of it does not involve aliens.

That’s popular culture and would not it be just like God to say the opposite?
 
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Daniel, this forum is the eschatology forum. Eschatology is the study of events to take place in the end times leading up to Jesus's return. For this eschatology forum, make posts that deal with events to take place in the end times.

Do you have any end times timeline charts ?
I disagree that eschatology is simply the study of end of the world events and a second advent of Christ. In fact I believe that to be fallacious. End time prophecy is way more specific than that. Pop culture end time prophecy teachings treat the Bible like its Nostradamus or something.

We have end time prophecy about the coming of the Lord at the end of the first covenant age. Matt. 24, Mark 13, Luke 21, Rev. 6:12-7:8 & 13:11-14:5. Plus most of the apostle's letters.

Then have the end time prophecy that effected the whole world but was referencing the city of Rome for its murder of the saints. Starting in Revelation 7:9 & 14:6 The seven Trumpets, vials or plagues and three woes. All horrific events that befell the empire ending in the 3rd woe when Rome was conquered a third time by foreign armies and totally depopulated. That coincided with the worst apocalyptic event the whole world has ever know outside Noah's flood. Here is an artilce on those seven events. The Mysteries Of The Book Of Revelation- Chap. 6-19

Then we have the coming of the Lord end of the age of the four gentile empires in Revelation 19.

We could go back to the Old Testament.

End time prophecy of Egypt's empire Isiah 19:1-4

End time prophecy of the Babylonian Empire at the hand of the Mede's Isaiah 13:1-19

End time prophecy of the ten tribes in Micah 1:2-6

Or we could totally switch gears into into unspecified end time prophecy for the worlds wanna be tyrants and empire builders after the fall of the Roman Empire in 1453 AD. That would be who Gog and Magog illustrate. The nations and peoples who seek to conquer the free world which is the camp of the saints and bring them back into subjection to tyranny and oppression. Entities like the Holy Roman empire, The British Empire, Napoleon, the Kaisers, the Nazis, the Imperial Japanese, the USSR. All fallen, some via "fire from heaven." to the nations most influenced by the Gospel and the Word of God.

Want an end time timeline?

597 BC - 70AD =666 years. The time between the beginning of the times of the four gentile empires until the end of the 1st covenant age. This was pointed out in Johns prophecy of the Roman empire splitting into an eastern and western branch and its claims of Christianity in Rev. 13.

Titus the prince, the son of perdition who destroyed Jerusalem who became the 8th emperor of Rome.

The next ten emperors after Titus are the ten horns of Daniel 2 & 7 & Revelation.

The little horn of Daniel 7? The 11th of the ten emperors following Titus? Septimius Severus 193 AD. Three emperors fell before him just like it says in Daniel 7. He started the militarily campaign to oppress the saints that lasted 1260 years until the empire ended. First non Latin emperor. Made it the death penalty to convert to Christianity. That number 1260 days, 42 months, 3.5 years, times two times and a half time are mentioned in Revelation 5 times in relation to the Roman empire. Just like Danie's 70 weeks turned out to be 490 years. The time between the beginning of the reign of Severus and the end of the empire war 1260 years.

What happens after the Roman empire? Isaiah 54, 60, 61 , 62 the latter half of 65, Psalm 72, Revelation 20-22 and dozens of other good news chapters of prophecy about a promised age of billions coming to Christ and a growing free world for them to live in. Has to be won and God is the one providentially orchastrating it.

Why now? The Bible began to illegally get into the hands of the general public right when the Roman empire ended. Which God obviously foreknew.
 
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The little horn of Daniel 7? The 11th of the ten emperors following Titus? Septimius Severus 193 AD. Three emperors fell before him just like it says in Daniel 7. He started the militarily campaign to oppress the saints that lasted 1260 years until the empire ended. First non Latin emperor. Made it the death penalty to convert to Christianity. That number 1260 days, 42 months, 3.5 years, times two times and a half time are mentioned in Revelation 5 times in relation to the Roman empire. Just like Danie's 70 weeks turned out to be 490 years. The time between the beginning of the reign of Severus and the end of the empire war 1260 years.
You appear to hold a partial preterist view. And also a view that a day means a year view to the end times timeframes.

A study of Ezekiel 39 disproves both of those positions.



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