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Oh boy. You've really missed out on comments that some in this forum have made. And this on a moderated Christian forum. Comments which if said in a bar would have had security being called. Some of those people are on permanent ignore. The comments made so angry that I can't trust myself to say anything to them.
Finding common ground is always a good thing. It always improves matters. But the 'us and them' doesn't, and mustn't include people who use violence as a means to an end.
I really am sorry that you actually thought that he was being self serving when he said what all reasonable people should have said.
I do not want common ground with evil.
Obviously I don't know what media content you consume (as the kids say), and I don't know if you're aware of the extent of what's gone on in America over the last week, beginning even when Kirk's blood had barely stopped gushing.
I'm not saying he didn't mean any of it. There is a nice online discussion between him and Kirk from awhile back. But it can possibly be discounted a bit as self-serving.
Apparently people with down syndrome are intersexed transgenders now.
That's because violence should never be that common ground. Being actively against violence should be.
Anyone who supports or celebrates violence should be excluded from the 'us and them'. Neither of us wants to include them as being representative of our views, however disparate those views might be.
Sometimes people that you don't generally agree with, people you consider to be the opposition sometimes say the right thing for the right reason. Sometimes you have to agree with them.
How do you find common ground with people who want you dead and will cheer when you are shot in front of your children? We are past that.
Why are you asking questions that have already been answered?
When I say 'us and them' I mean you and me. People like you and me. Those of us who don't support violence or celebrate it. Those of us who don't shoot people or break into the Capitol or excuse those who do.
Me too. Trabaja in la casa blanca.
You are I are irrelevant, up to the point where "them" forces us to take up arms. At that point, you need to pick a side.
You neglected to capitalize the first letters of casa and blanca. That doesn't narrow it down much. There's probably millions of white houses in America.
It means that when a tragedy of some sort happens, partisan actors will attribute blame to something, in order to advance a policy they'd already been wanting to advance anyway, using the tragedy as justification for it.
Which is why we both should avoid any suggestion that political violence is acceptable. So we don't get to that point. In passing, have you seen the film 'Civil War'? Civil War (2024) ⭐ 7.0 | Action, Thriller
I didn't want to be too obvious...
Leave that to me. When he does something wrong, I'm first in line to criticise him. I'm a big supporter of his, but he got both barrels from me for this: Pacific Media Barred from Australian PM Albanese Press Conference at PIF Meeting
OK, yes. I agree. Although you originally said 'attributing fault', which I think is quite reasonable. If some act or policy has a negative impact then you want to find out who is responsible. Whose fault it was. And you'd need some evidence for your conclusion. But blame...well, yes - there's a lot of that being thrown about based simply on opinion. And using a tragedy as the basis for it is not a good look. Whichever side of the political divide is doing it.
