New belief among teenagers. What do you think?

Hans Blaster said:

Speculation, mostly speculation. There is no evidence of what it would be, so it's all just speculation.

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According to science there must have been something. What it was is speculation within science.

Valletta said:

According to science there must have been something.

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That does seem likely, but with out evidence backing a specific model, we can't say for certain.

Valletta said:

What it was is speculation within science.

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Models are built in a narrow sub-field of theoretical cosmology.

Valletta said:

Call what was there anything you wish, according to science something must have been there. We call what must have been there God, and we have an idea of God which may be different than others. Yet something was there according to science. It's just a matter of debate as to what was there.

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There seems a disconnect in your argument. Yes, the provisional conclusion is that something preceded the Big Bang (on the presumption that the Big Bang is the correct explanation of observations to date), but nothing suggests that this something was a conscious entity of immense power, certainly not one who took a direct interest in some fleeting lifeforms, circling a mediocre star in one of many billions of galaxies. Reflecting on my beliefs as a Christian the suggestion that the material/energy something that may have preceded the Big Bang was somehow God, rather than material created by God strikes me as ludicrous.

Hvizsgyak said:

So, my question is, do we really as a society want to encourage and coddle this delusional lifestyle where grown people have social problems because of this fad/trend? Here's one that got me. A person had their ears made pointed (plastic surgery) so they would look like an elf. This self expression is wrong and it should not be encouraged and it is totally bizarre that the medical and psychiatric fields have nothing intelligent to say about it. Their attitude seems to be, "let them do what they want, they aren't harmful". Really?!!!

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Getting plastic surgery to resemble an elf is extreme. However, the percentage of fantasy fans who do so is negligible. Furry is an offshoot of the science fiction fandom that overlaps with the fantasy fandom. Enjoying science fiction or fantasy doesn't mean you want to become Frodo Baggins or Captain Janeway. It doesn't even necessarily mean you want to roleplay as a fictional character. Some do and some don't. There isn't one unified furry lifestyle much like there isn't one unified fantasy or science fiction fan lifestyle.

Furries tend to be imaginative people. Many of whom are creative in fields like art and technology. We need to decouple this from unhealthy behavior. Some are healthy and some are unhealthy. A furry with psychological problems is a human being who needs help. The others are about as harmful as the typical healthy person. That's why the medical and psychiatric establishments don't have much to say about them. Anthropomorphic animal characters were popular long before the fandom became a thing and liking them isn't a disorder.

I just enjoy that, in my lifetime, we're seeing the Democrats saying "stop the nanny state oversight of people just trying to live their lives" and Republicans and hardline Christians yelling "NO! FORBID PEOPLE FROM GETTING ELF EAR PLASTIC SURGERY!! I AM MAD WITH WHAT THEY ARE PAYING FOR WITH THEIR MONEY ON THEIR OWN BODY."