We Don’t Need Gun Control, We Need To Classify Gender Dysphoria As A Mental Illness Again

Postvieww · Monday at 3:12 PM

Say it aint so said:
Never mind those "fake emotional pleas" from "liberal politicians", listen to the parents who have had their children shot dead. Excuse those liberal politicians for echoing their pain. This is vicious cycle. And it goes, school shooting; outrage; followed by "thoughts and prayers" and then; "it's too soon and we shouldn't politicize this"; then nothing gets done: then the next shooting happens, wash, rinse, repeat. Yes, mental illness should be address just as the left has advocated. There was time where federal funding helped keep the doors of mental institutions open. It wasn't the left who shut that down. This admin DOGE'ed every state in a loss for mental health funding, and now it's incumbent on the states who don't have the money to fill that void. There is a problem in the US, and thoughts and prayers and doing nothing is not a plan.

I notice you ignore the one action that could have the most immediate impact in saving the lives of those precious children. Simply just protect them like we do politicians and celebrities. Why is that not part of the conversation if it is the children who are our primary concern? Our children are our future and worth protecting. This gun grabbing mentality will not get the job done especially in the short term. Why are people not screaming as loudly to protect our children?

iluvatar5150 · Monday at 3:18 PM

RileyG said:
Not agreeing with this ideology isn’t bigotry. That word gets tossed around too much.

OP isn’t merely disagreeing with an ideology. He’s spreading bigotry.

RileyG · Monday at 3:23 PM

iluvatar5150 said:
OP isn’t merely disagreeing with an ideology. He’s spreading bigotry.

No. He’s not.

comana · Monday at 3:46 PM

Postvieww said:
I notice you ignore the one action that could have the most immediate impact in saving the lives of those precious children. Simply just protect them like we do politicians and celebrities. Why is that not part of the conversation if it is the children who are our primary concern? Our children are our future and worth protecting. This gun grabbing mentality will not get the job done especially in the short term. Why are people not screaming as loudly to protect our children?

Sure, and why not go a step further, in the theme of the current administration, why not post National Guard outside of each school.

Hans Blaster · Monday at 3:47 PM

RileyG said:
Not agreeing with this ideology isn’t bigotry.

(Since that is what triggered this thread in the first place...) It wasn't "ideology" that lead the Minnesota shooter last week to their gender identity. Even if it is "mental illness" (and the scientific evidence is counter to that notion) calling it a "violent movement" is pure bigotry.

RileyG said:
That word gets tossed around too much.

I only use it where it applies.

FAITH-IN-HIM · Monday at 3:53 PM

Tuur said:
Then what changed? It's harder for a US citizen to buy a firearm than it's ever been, so why are such incidents more frequent now than 60+ years ago?

There is no singular cause for the rise in gun violence observed today compared to six decades ago. The process of radicalization may be facilitated by increased access to information via the internet. Although semi-automatic firearms have been available since the early 20th century and the AR-15 has been accessible to the public since 1955, it remains uncertain how prevalent these firearms were in households sixty years ago. The widespread dissemination of details regarding mass shootings may influence certain behavioral patterns; nevertheless, issues such as mental health, radicalization, and internet accessibility are not the sole contributing factors. For example, many European nations have comparable access to the internet, social media, and violent video games but report fewer mass shootings than the United States, likely due to more stringent gun regulations. Conversely, Canada, which shares cultural affinities with the U.S. and has a high rate of civilian gun ownership, also experiences fewer mass shooting incidents. The differing outcomes in these countries result from many complex factors.

A challenge in current American discourse is that discussions about this issue often involve each side criticizing the other, rather than acknowledging its complexity. Progress is unlikely without an openness to considering ideas from all perspectives. Constructive solutions require both common sense and policy contributions from multiple viewpoints, ultimately leading to compromise. However, the existing political climate makes it difficult to reach consensus.

DaisyDay · Monday at 4:04 PM

comana said:
Sure, and why not go a step further, in the theme of the current administration, why not post National Guard outside of each school.

Outside?

RileyG · Monday at 4:09 PM

Hans Blaster said:
(Since that is what triggered this thread in the first place...) It wasn't "ideology" that lead the Minnesota shooter last week to their gender identity. Even if it is "mental illness" (and the scientific evidence is counter to that notion) calling it a "violent movement" is pure bigotry.

I only use it where it applies.

Violent movement? Depends on one’s perception, I suppose. If anything.

comana · Monday at 4:10 PM

DaisyDay said:
Outside?

It’s easier to pick up trash and do some landscaping when outside.

Postvieww · Monday at 4:40 PM

comana said:
Sure, and why not go a step further, in the theme of the current administration, why not post National Guard outside of each school.

That’s not what I was referring to and I believe you know that, but even that would be taking a step that actually would stop some of this madness. Still waiting for the liberals to put forward a real plan that doesn’t involve gun grabbing which will not fix this problem and is not going to happen anytime soon. So will someone who really cares about protecting children come up with something that will work and stop this tired old gun grabbing rhetoric.

Desk trauma · Monday at 4:58 PM

Tuur said:
Silly me: I thought this was a serious topic. Sorry to have bothered everyone.

No point in being too serious about mass school shootings . They’re here to stay just have to cope as best we can.

Bradskii · Monday at 5:09 PM

comana said:
It’s easier to pick up trash and do some landscaping when outside.

Keeping DC safe...

Desk trauma · Monday at 5:15 PM

Bradskii said:
Keeping DC safe...

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Oh the bi…. bellyaching among the enlisted has to be legendary.

Larniavc · Monday at 5:16 PM

Valletta said:
These irreversible interventions euphemistically referred to as lifesaving “gender affirming care” paired with rhetoric from Democrats who undoubtedly incite violence by insisting Republicans are “erasing trans people” have had more than a decade to take effect.
The results, as seen in both science and culture, are less than ideal. Not only are more people than ever struggling with the social contagion of the LGBT movement, but more of those people are also resorting to deadly acts of violence often linked to and motivated by their struggle.

We Need To Classify Gender Dysphoria As A Mental Illness Again

Curbing the rise of shootings committed by gender-bending people starts with treating transgenderism as a serious mental health issue.

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Such violent movements indeed need to be stopped.

For shame.

Bradskii · Monday at 5:21 PM

Desk trauma said:
Oh the bi…. bellyaching among the enlisted has to be legendary.

They can protect schools and keep them nice and clean.

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comana · Monday at 5:24 PM

Postvieww said:
That’s not what I was referring to and I believe you know that, but even that would be taking a step that actually would stop some of this madness. Still waiting for the liberals to put forward a real plan that doesn’t involve gun grabbing which will not fix this problem and is not going to happen anytime soon. So will someone who really cares about protecting children come up with something that will work and stop this tired old gun grabbing rhetoric.

Let’s be honest. As long as there is a constitutional right to own guns in this country, there is no real solution. The outrage from this episode of US school shootings will fade away from public discourse until the next one. Rinse and repeat.

Valletta · Monday at 5:25 PM

Larniavc said:
For shame.

They were fooled, Satan has fooled many.

Larniavc · Monday at 5:39 PM

Tuur said:
Then what changed? It's harder for a US citizen to buy a firearm than it's ever been, so why are such incidents more frequent now than 60+ years ago?

I’ll take a serious punt.

A relatively prosperous working class with guns everywhere and relatively low gun deaths.

Now we change the levels of prosperity and income inequality and erode safety nets and education. Turn religion into a political tool, flood the media with fear, allow corporations to put profit over people’s lives, physical health, mental health and wellbeing. Reduce education equality and social mobility disenfranchising whole generations.

Take this this confused, angry, scared population without the ability to modulate their emotions or the communication ability to ask for help and allow them to retain access to the guns that their previous generation were emotional, intellectually and socially competent to own without going crazy eight bonkers.

Just what else would anyone reasonably expect to happen?.

The fix is a long term fix; change American society. The rugged individualism of “screw you I got mine” and the crushing soul destroying lives many Americans have to endure at the hands of the super rich needs to change.

Actual gun control where people are denied access to guns is only a part of what needs to change; but you have to start somewhere.

That’s just my take but as regular listeners might know my thoughts on things are unto finely spun ribbons of truth in the flaxen hair of the maidens of accuracy who live in the bang on glade of the bullseye dell.

I think I need to go to sleep.

Desk trauma · Monday at 5:50 PM

Larniavc said:
Actual gun control where people are denied access to guns is only a part of what needs to change; but you have to start somewhere.

That’s the thing, there is no “need to” there is no imperative here, only some dead kids. We have proven we’re willing to go through the motions of how awful this is rend our garments then wait for it to happen again over and over for decades. This isn’t a movie, things don’t change just because they’re awful.

Tuur · Monday at 6:33 PM

Hans Blaster said:
The OP didn't make a serious solution to any problem, just the application of bigotry.

Which doesn't exclude a serious discussion. During the span of my lifetime, something changed. We would do well to try to determine what that something is. We can rule out access to firearms because we went from mail order firearms to background checks and waiting periods. The cause then was something else, and not addressing the underlying cause isn't going to accomplish what many hope it will.

I want to thank you for our discussions. Perhaps we'll have more in the future. But clearly I'm in the wrong place here.

Everyone have fun.

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