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The Seven Mountains Mandate or Dominionism?

Can our prayers and decisions positively impact the future?

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PatrickTate

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There are many scriptures about "praying always" or "continually."

The only feasible way to do that is to understand that the Spirit of Christ is within us, with every thought, word and deed.

As far as prayers and goals, if we think things through to their logical conclusion, there is only 1 viable prayer. I think Jesus nailed it already, in the Lord's Prayer...Thy Kingdom come, Thy Will be done.

IF we really believe that prayer, then everything that has ever happened and that ever will happen is in fact within God's Own Will for it to happen. Believing otherwise merely makes God out to be some powerless potentate sitting on his cloud somewhere waiting for us to figure it out. Not really a credible form of God, imho
I think that you are absolutely correct!

I plead guilty to being lukewarm and somewhat backslidden, as were the issues in the Laodicean Era of the Bride of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus, the Church and also were there even in the Apostolic or Ephesian Era.

If the Holy Spirit is given to me in a greater measure then surely I will become less lukewarm and less backslidden?

If I improve and manifest more of the Holy Spirit then people around me will benefit and I will pray for them a lot more and do so more effectively.

Former Atheist Howard Storm who had a near death experience was shown how important it is that we allow the Holy Spirit to speak through us and work through us.




5. The Future of the U.S. and the World​

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They explained to me that their concern was for all the people of the world. They weren’t interested in one group getting ahead of other groups. They want every person to consider every other person greater than their own flesh. They want everyone to love everyone else, completely; more, even, than they love themselves. If someone, someplace else in the world hurts, then we should hurt, we should feel their pain. And we should help them. Our planet has evolved to the point, for the first time in our history, that we have the power to do that. We are globally linked. And we could become one people.

The people that they gave the privilege of leading the world into a better age, blew it. That was us, in the United States.

When I spoke with them about the future, and this might sound like a cop-out on my part, they made clear to me that we have free will.

If we change the way we are, then we can change the future which they showed me. They showed me a view of the future, at the time of my experience, based upon how we in the United States were behaving at that time. It was a future in which a massive worldwide depression would occur. If we were to change our behavior, however, then the future would be different.

Asking them how it would be possible to change the course of many people, I observed that it was difficult, if not impossible, to change anything on Earth. I expressed the opinion that it was a hopeless task to try.

My friends explained, quite clearly, that all it takes to make a change was one person. One person, trying, and then because of that, another person changing for the better. They said that the only way to change the world was to begin with one person. One will become two, which will become three, and so on. That’s the only way to affect a major change.

I inquired as to where the world would be going in an optimistic future one where some of the changes they desired were to take place.

The image of the future that they gave me then, and it was their image, not one that I created, surprised me. My image had previously been sort of like Star Wars, where everything was space age, plastics, and technology.

The future that they showed me was almost no technology at all. What everybody, absolutely everybody, in this euphoric future spent most of their time doing was raising children. The chief concern of people was children, and everybody considered children to be the most precious commodity in the world.
 
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I think that you are absolutely correct!

I plead guilty to being lukewarm and somewhat backslidden, as were the issues in the Laodicean Era of the Bride of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus, the Church and also were there even in the Apostolic or Ephesian Era.

If the Holy Spirit is given to me in a greater measure then surely I will become less lukewarm and less backslidden?

If I improve and manifest more of the Holy Spirit then people around me will benefit and I will pray for them a lot more and do so more effectively.

Former Atheist Howard Storm who had a near death experience was shown how important it is that we allow the Holy Spirit to speak through us and work through us.
Again, I would use caution when following the advice of anyone to "make yourself into Jesus." That's really not the Gospel. We can't "make me" any better than we really are. We are not the same as Jesus. We're sinners. We're not God. That's kind of the whole point of coming to grips with God, meaning we're not God.

God can make us anything He want's but it's not going to be an exact replica of God who has always existed. To believe that is simply delusional. There is a line drawn between The Creator and the creation. These are simply not the same.

Most of us start out our believing lives worshiping our own imaginations of what or who God is and what God might or might not do. Fact is, we can't possibly imagine. God is well beyond our petty imaginations.

And rightfully so.

Even all the NDE stories, the entire sum of them, will never come close to even remotely describing the Wonders of God. And a lot of them will even say so. Word's just can't describe....because God is beyond all of that.

I am content to let my mind wander, endlessly, about that subject. But the minute I try to pin God down, I lose.

It's like a lot of professional chess players are now saying about playing chess with AI. None of them can actually win against the AI competitor. The best they can do is to learn new and untested, even unseen before strategies to use against other non AI human competitors, but the AI competitor is beyond winning against at this point. And the game is likely to remain that way, with a permanent line between the AI and the human. That's kind of how God is.

There's a Divine Message there, with AI. We're not even as good as a computer. The best we can do is to share in a bit of the pie.
 
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However did you get that from my post? I didn't even mention the authority of Jesus. I thought this thread was about something called the Seven Mountains Mandate, which says that Christians have the mandate to assume authority over seven named aspects of life, such as governments, education and families. To avoid any further confusion on thos point, I assure you that I fully believe in the authority of Jesus Christ, Who is King of kings and Lord of lords.
Dominion should not be interpreted as domination. It is really stewardship over creation and (in Genesis 1) was given to all human beings, not just to an elect.
 
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I think that you are absolutely correct!

I plead guilty to being lukewarm and somewhat backslidden, as were the issues in the Laodicean Era of the Bride of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus, the Church and also were there even in the Apostolic or Ephesian Era.

If the Holy Spirit is given to me in a greater measure then surely I will become less lukewarm and less backslidden?

If I improve and manifest more of the Holy Spirit then people around me will benefit and I will pray for them a lot more and do so more effectively.

Former Atheist Howard Storm who had a near death experience was shown how important it is that we allow the Holy Spirit to speak through us and work through us.



The Holy Spirit speaks and works through us because we are members of the corporate body of Christ. In Matt. 18:19 Jesus tells us that when even as few as two or three Christians, gathered together, agree on what to pray for, that prayer will be answered. In the following verse, Jesus explains why - because whenever Christians (even if just two or three in number) gather together in the name of Jesus, Jesus himself will be present. I interpret this to imply that the presence of Jesus (indwelling each Christian through the Holy Spirit) will guide their thoughts into conformity with the will of the Father. This is no superficial agreement (not an agreement for the sake of agreeing) but an agreement following an inward conviction (itself brought about by the Holy Spirit) as to what the will of God on the matter being prayed for really is.
This is broadly how Quaker meetings for church business work. Quakers call these "worship meetings for business" to indicate that their members gather in an attitude of worship which includes listening prayer with special attention to the discernment of God's will on practical matters concerning the church community. When a possible word from God is received, all members of the meeting hold it before God and if all members of the meeting become convicted that it is truly God's will, the matter in question is accepted. If there is no consensus agreement, the matter is prayed about until further clarification is received through the Holy Spirit.
In my opinion (and I feel led to this opinion by God) similar meetings of silent listening prayer and discernment held by Christians in business firms, political gatherings and so forth for all the seven spheres would result in the true hearing of God's will for both prayer and practical conduct of the different spheres. Just as the prophets spoke to kings and other leaders in Old Testament Israel, so these groups would speak to those with authority within the different spheres. Indeed, because the meetings would not "speak" until Holy-Spirit-agreement was reached, we could truly say that Jesus himself would be speaking through the meetings.
I suggest that those who are able, might promote such meetings in the spheres within which they are associated.
 
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Again, I would use caution when following the advice of anyone to "make yourself into Jesus." That's really not the Gospel. We can't "make me" any better than we really are. We are not the same as Jesus. We're sinners. We're not God. That's kind of the whole point of coming to grips with God, meaning we're not God.

God can make us anything He want's but it's not going to be an exact replica of God who has always existed. To believe that is simply delusional. There is a line drawn between The Creator and the creation. These are simply not the same.

Most of us start out our believing lives worshiping our own imaginations of what or who God is and what God might or might not do. Fact is, we can't possibly imagine. God is well beyond our petty imaginations.

And rightfully so.

Even all the NDE stories, the entire sum of them, will never come close to even remotely describing the Wonders of God. And a lot of them will even say so. Word's just can't describe....because God is beyond all of that.

I am content to let my mind wander, endlessly, about that subject. But the minute I try to pin God down, I lose.

It's like a lot of professional chess players are now saying about playing chess with AI. None of them can actually win against the AI competitor. The best they can do is to learn new and untested, even unseen before strategies to use against other non AI human competitors, but the AI competitor is beyond winning against at this point. And the game is likely to remain that way, with a permanent line between the AI and the human. That's kind of how God is.

There's a Divine Message there, with AI. We're not even as good as a computer. The best we can do is to share in a bit of the pie.
And you mention the Gospel , and will you explain what the. Gospel is. found and what it means ??

dan p
 
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And you mention the Gospel , and will you explain what the. Gospel is. found and what it means ??

dan p
Matt. 4:4, Luke 4:4, Deut. 8:3
 
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Matt. 4:4, Luke 4:4, Deut. 8:3
And there is. the "

# 1 There the Gospel of Matthew

# 2 The Gospel of. Mark

# 3. Gospel of Luke

# 4 Gospel of. John

# 5. God's Gospel in Rom 1:1

# 6 The. Everlasting Gospel in the Revelation

# 7 GOSPEL OF THE GRACE OF GOD

# 8 THE GOSPEL OF YOUR SALVATION Eph 1:13

dan p
 
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And there is. the "

# 1 There the Gospel of Matthew

# 2 The Gospel of. Mark

# 3. Gospel of Luke

# 4 Gospel of. John

# 5. God's Gospel in Rom 1:1

# 6 The. Everlasting Gospel in the Revelation

# 7 GOSPEL OF THE GRACE OF GOD

# 8 THE GOSPEL OF YOUR SALVATION Eph 1:13

dan p
Are you suggesting that those are 8 separate, different gospels?
 
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