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Does your yard sign have your elector's name on it? or the actual candidate's?
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Newsome pushed back against Democracy to achieve his political goals
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Yard sign? I don't do those. Too many hateful people would vandalize my house where I live.
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You see my point tho, right? I bet you (and 99.8% of America) dont even know who their electors are. They are participating to vote for the candidate.
Who's names are on your ballot, electors or actual candidates? This original idea of We The People having to select some wise men to go make that decision for us is stone cold dead.
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This has nothing to do with the point I made.
How do you even picture that working? A district made of of varying percentages of party affiliated voters, can only elect one representative. IF 60% percent vote one way, does that mean the other 40% are unrepresented? How would the 40% get represented, in your ideal scenario? If you could explain, I'd really appreciate it.
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Irrelevant - as explained above
Sorry - they are professionals - not quacks - and just shouting your opinion does not detract from their professional assessment!
This is not about courts. This is not about a condition that would require a great many personal interviews to assess.
This is about NPD which is quite obvious from a distance and across many decades.
Your opinion is irrelevant. My opinion is irrelevant.
These experts have assessed this.
Oh puuuhlease.
Your dogmatism is showing.
No - it's a professional mental health assessment from decades of video footage.
Sorry - it just is.
It's not me repeating it that makes it a fact.
The fact is the fact. Over 230 mental health experts have assessed from thousands of hours of video footage that Donald Trump suffers from a serious personality defect that is dangerous and incurable.
Wrong.
The fact you are just magic-handwaving away is over 230 mental health professionals... you know the rest.
Yeah - would this be the same guy his daddy bought off to say Donald - who loved track and field - had flat feet to avoid the Vietnam war?
Yeah - we can REALLY trust Donald's loyal vassals to tell the truth!
That physician would.
Can you imagine what would happen if he didn't?
What about all the ex-inner circle staff that turned on him after he fired them in the first term?
People who worked with him daily have called him things that I cannot repeat on a Christian forum!
That is your opinion, no matter how loudly you repeat it - magic hand wave it - or just plain assert it.
But the real world facts are that over 230 mental health experts have diagnosed him from thousands of hours of video footage across many decades.
THAT's the truth.
Deal with it.
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eclipsenow
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History says no.
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eclipsenow
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Again you keep ASSERTING things without evidence
Your numbers are meaningless until you can place them in context.
EG: 44% not getting their way because more voted for the other guy does not mean they HAVE NO representation - it just means the other guy represents them!
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The amount of adults on this thread that don't seem to understand that a constitutional republic is a democracy is getting a bit worrisome. It does seem to explain some things though.
Also I have to say, the optics of when discussing democracy and immediately only considering the presidency (also the only part of the system which functions a bit differently from the rest in the USA), wasn't the best.
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No its not. Its a Constitutional Republic. Which means its has some democratic processes. But its not a full democracy.
But you know this, so im not sure what you argument is.
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Where in earth did you come up with this from his posts? Are you deliberately trying to make him say something he didn't?
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In the article that seems to be where the discussion came from its references a FULL democracy. The US is not and never has been a FULL democracy. So trying to complain about us and making it seem like we are way down the list is a false statement. We are a representative democracy. We are NOT a full democracy. Its a ridiculous article and a ridiculous measure. Cause they are using the wrong measuring stick.
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It depends what you mean by "Full democracy". I just want to clarify that when I posted before, I was not discussing a Constitutional setup - say Presidential vs Westminster - but the quality of the democracy achieving its own stated goals (and also probably some fairly universal ideals as measured by the agency running the analysis.)
The Economist rates the USA as a "Flawed Democracy" as it has a significant degree of democratic backsliding.
Australia is a Full Democracy in that we get a pass mark.
It's not style, it's quality
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Then it seems that you do not understand what is meant by a full democracy in the article. You should actually read it. A full democracy does not mean a direct democracy as you seem to imply. There are several representative democracies on that list listed as full democracies.
You just took a term, did not look up what the article means by it and invented your own meaning for it. And made yourself look silly doing it since it's quite obvious you do not understand what's being measured and calculated there.
By the way, saying so proudly that the USA has never been a full democracy is actually pretty funny. I did get a chuckle out of that for obvious reasons.
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Right its a subjective belief that a full democracy is better than a constitutional republic. That in order to me their standard you must be a full democracy. But that's THEIR standard. The argument has always been if a full democracy is better than a constitutional republic. And this group has made a subjective decision that a full democracy is better. I'm entitled and so were the founders to think its not.
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You don't understand - at all.
Australia is a Constitutional Monarchy
America is a Constitutional Republic
Both systems can be GREAT - or not so great - or downright corrupt and betraying their values.
So how do we score that? Instead of ABCDEF whatever... The Economist democracy ranking goes Full, Flawed, Hybrid, Authoritarian.
It's just not debating whether CM or CR is better - it's grading the democratic standards and practices within those countries that are under either system.
Full is a good mark - for either system - Constitutional Monarchy or Constitutional Republic.
Flawed is not so good for either system - Constitutional Monarchy or Constitutional Republic.
Authoritarian is China or Iran - want to live there? Then ignore that your nation is already backsliding democratically and you'll be there soon enough!
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... Again, a full democracy isn't a direct democracy. You do not clearly understand what is meant in the ranking. There are constitutional republics that are ranked as full democracies. Please take a moment to actually read and comprehend it.
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You know that's pretty bad when Singapore gets a higher rank in Democracy than the United States.
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Yeah, like i said, its a subjective opinion on what is best. And often we find these subjective opinions come from leftist belief systems. I'm not going to trust a bunch of leftists to decide where we sit on the democracy scale.
Our country has flaws as well as your country. Your country is not better than ours because some left-leaning group has decided it is.
Our nation is not backsliding into authoritarianism. Its been backsliding into leftist ideology and leftist authoritarianism for too long. Remember when Obama went after right wing citizens?
We are trying to get back to common sense, reality and support for law and order to protect our citizens from criminals and people stealing our jobs and wages.
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A lot of writing, and you still show no signs of understanding what is meant by a full democracy in that index or how the backslide of USA is measured (hint, it's not about left or right wing).
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