Christians Stand Trial In Finland

DaveM · Jan 26, 2022

"Christians Stand Trial In Finland Today For Affirming Men And Women Are Different"

"A Christian bishop and member of parliament are being charged with hate crimes for publishing a theology booklet about sex and marriage."

“Part of the scary thing about what’s happening in Finland is that it could happen anywhere else,” Coleman said Jan. 23 on the British show GBNews. Many countries have similar hate speech laws, including states and cities in the United States."

Christians Stand Trial For Their Faith Today In Finland

grasping the after wind · Jan 26, 2022

Having a theological POV about sexuality that differs from the approved state POV is seen as a hate crime in Finland I guess.

chevyontheriver · Jan 26, 2022

grasping the after wind said:
Having a theological POV about sexuality that differs from the approved state POV is seen as a hate crime in Finland I guess.

Coming to a dystopian country near you. We already know what happens here when someone tells you to bake them a cake.

d taylor · Jan 26, 2022

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That is the purpose of this so call hate crime type of law breaking legislation. A legal way governments can get at christianity.

PloverWing · Jan 26, 2022

The Federalist's headline is misleading. Here are reports from Christianity Today and from the BBC:
Finnish Bishop and Politician Face Trial for LGBT Statements
Paivi Rasanen: Finnish MP in Bible hate speech trial

According to those reports, the issue is one of making anti-gay statements in a country where gay people are a protected minority.

It is an interesting and complicated case, exploring the rights of free speech vs. the rights of protected minorities to be safe. In the US, I'm guessing the right to free speech would be the more important in the case, but I don't know enough about Finnish law and culture to predict how the ruling will go there.

In any case, Pohjola and Räsänen seem to have said much more than just men and women are different.

Mayflower1 · Jan 26, 2022

Fsthe, I pray the Truth of Your Word will be not only allowed, but heard and accepted no matter how hard it is for some to swallow. Please help any who need to know their identity. In Jesus Name, Amen

grasping the after wind · Jan 26, 2022

PloverWing said:
The Federalist's headline is misleading. Here are reports from Christianity Today and from the BBC:
Finnish Bishop and Politician Face Trial for LGBT Statements
Paivi Rasanen: Finnish MP in Bible hate speech trial

According to those reports, the issue is one of making anti-gay statements in a country where gay people are a protected minority.

It is an interesting and complicated case, exploring the rights of free speech vs. the rights of protected minorities to be safe. In the US, I'm guessing the right to free speech would be the more important in the case, but I don't know enough about Finnish law and culture to predict how the ruling will go there.

In any case, Pohjola and Räsänen seem to have said much more than just men and women are different.

You are right the headline is misleading. The headline should have read "Finnish authorities claim quoting the Bible constitutes hate speech.". I don't see how one can define "the right to be safe" as freedom from the disapproving words of others.

LoricaLady · Jan 27, 2022

Messiah said that in the last days it would be as in the days of Sodom and Gomorrah. And never since in history have we seen it so more and more true all over the planet.

Erik Nelson · Tuesday at 1:23 PM

The Bible Is Yet Again on Trial in Finland | National Review

The case of Finnish member of parliament Päivi Räsänen, who continues to face persecution for her religious beliefs, will set a key free-speech precedent.

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The case of Finnish member of parliament Päivi Räsänen, who continues to face persecution for her religious beliefs, will set a key free-speech precedent...

In 2019, Räsänen’s church decided to sponsor a “pride” parade. She responded by posting some Bible verses on Twitter and asking how that decision aligned with Scripture. You might expect that to have led to some debate or perhaps even tension, possibly a meeting with church leaders. Instead, she faced criminal prosecution eerily reminiscent of the Soviet Union.

Government officials ransacked Räsänen’s private life, rummaged through 20 years of public statements, and interrogated her on her personal theology. In the process, they dug up a 2004 church pamphlet she had authored on marriage and sexuality, as well as comments she made on a 2019 radio show. Government prosecutors charged Räsänen with three counts of “agitation against a minority group” under the war-crimes statute of Finnish law. A Lutheran bishop, Juhana Pohjola, was charged alongside her for publishing the pamphlet.

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