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You need an updated article and should also use more balanced polling.
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Working Class Ditching Dem Party In Droves As Some Say It’s ‘Fighting For Everybody Else’ Besides Americans
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Key Reasons Cited Across Sources
The left can blame Trump all they want - but that isn't what their own voters are saying.
- Union Decline & Cultural Disconnect
In Rust Belt Union Blues, researchers Lainey Newman and Theda Skocpol argue that the erosion of union power has weakened the Democratic Party’s connection to working-class communities. As unions faded, so did the grassroots infrastructure that once tied these voters to Democratic candidates. - Perceived Elitism & Class Blindness
Joan C. Williams, in her book Outclassed: How the Left Lost the Working Class – And How to Win Them Back, suggests that Democrats have become culturally disconnected from working-class Americans. She highlights how progressive rhetoric often alienates voters who feel their economic struggles are ignored in favor of identity-based issues. - Focus on “Woke” Issues Over Economic Concerns
A post-election analysis from RiftTV lists reasons for the Democrats’ 2024 defeat, including a perceived overemphasis on cultural and progressive issues—such as gender policies and climate agendas—while neglecting core economic concerns like inflation, wages, and crime. This disconnect reportedly pushed many working-class voters toward Republican candidates.
The left can blame Trump all they want - but that isn't what their own voters are saying.
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The approval charts speak for themselves. You asked. I answered. And supported by answer.
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Who's Echelon Polling? I've never heard of them. What are its Polling metrics?
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oh look - Trump - - - - - - - - - - - -
Democrats still losing working class people from the deck of the Titanic while pointing to another ship saying at least it is not as bad as that.
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Who is polled and how the polling is done matters a lot. Remember when the polling said that Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris was going to win against Trump?
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Polling didn't say Kamala Harris was going to win against Trump. The polling repeatedly showed the election could go either way. Talking about 2016 makes more sense, but even there the polls, if properly looked at, showed Trump had a path to win, which he ended up making.
As was well explained here, commenting on people who got upset that the polls were "wrong" in Trump winning in 2024 (specifically, responding to Jon Stewart ranting about how he didn't want to hear from a pollster ever again):
Some Impromptu Post-Election Thoughts You Maybe Haven't Considered Yet
Or maybe you have. Especially if you read my Facebook.
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In 2016, I could understand this reaction. Hillary had a genuine lead. Trump was only a normal polling error behind her, but only a few brave commentators were saying so. When Trump won anyway, it was easy to understand why people were shocked and angry at pollsters: a mixture of very bad work by amateurish election modelers (most of whom went out of business after 2016) combined with very human difficulties grasping probabilities. “You said Trump wasn’t going to win!” “No, I said he had about a 1-in-4 chance of winning.” “BOO!”
Election modelers launched into eight years of trying to add context to probabilistic forecasts, from JHKForecasts’ “equivalent poker odds” feature to FiveThirtyEight using the entire above-the-fold space to show plausible maps of plausible outcomes. (Also the dot plots! I miss the dot plots!)
In 2024, though, we see that maybe people never actually had a problem understanding probabilities at all. The forecasters could not have been clearer: it’s a coin toss! Could go either way! Yet I’ve seen so many people who are furious with them.
Maybe people just hate the messenger. Maybe the messenger who warns of possible bad news always gets shot when the bad news arrives. Maybe humans never learn anything, even things we’ve learned so well that we’ve literally embedded the aphorism, “Don’t shoot the messenger” into our lexicon.
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That is a different kind of polling. Who you say you will vote for as juxtaposed to the action of actually voting is not the same as "how do you think Trump is doing on the issues."
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