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TRUMP "MISSED THE DEADLINE" TO CALL OFF TX GERRYMANDERING; CALIFORNIA WILL NOW DRAW NEW, MORE “BEAUTIFUL MAPS”

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Do you feel redistricting, name calling, or underrepresentation are wrong? Have you objected when the GOP does stuff like that, or only when the Democrats do?

-- A2SG, just wondering....it's entirely possible I missed a post or two of yours along the way....
What does that have to do with the topic of the thread.

I assure you I am not mentioned in the OP, nor do I work for the government.
 
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What does that have to do with the topic of the thread.
Redistricting, aka gerrymandering, is the topic. The other things were brought up as tangential to that issue.

I assure you I am not mentioned in the OP, nor do I work for the government.
I understand that. But you offered your opinion on the matter, so I'm asking about that. It's a discussion board, I'm discussing.

-- A2SG, but I suppose I could that that response as an answer, of sorts, to my question....
 
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Redistricting, aka gerrymandering, is the topic. The other things were brought up as tangential to that issue.
You can, you can do a whole lot of things. Doesn’t mean I or anyone else will follow.
I understand that. But you offered your opinion on the matter, so I'm asking about that. It's a discussion board, I'm discussing.
Dont care. It’s my opinion. You offered your opinion, I offered mine. We’re all good.
-- A2SG, but I suppose I could that that response as an answer, of sorts, to my question....
True, have you run into many people who do don’t fall for the ‘gotcha’ style off topic questions or am I an anomaly?
 
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You can, you can do a whole lot of things. Doesn’t mean I or anyone else will follow.
Sure. But you seemed to object to issues such as redistricting, name calling, and underrepresentation, so I was trying to discuss them and see what your specific objections were.

Dont care. It’s my opinion. You offered your opinion, I offered mine. We’re all good.
So, no interest in discussion, then? Okay, fine.

True, have you run into many people who do don’t fall for the ‘gotcha’ style off topic questions or am I an anomaly?
What "gotcha"? I asked a question, you chose not to answer. Well, not directly, anyway. What conclusions I might draw from that are my own.

-- A2SG, as are yours....
 
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Gerrymandering schmerrymandering.

Let’s update the Reapportionment Act of 1929 that reaffirmed the set-number of House seats at 435.
Let’s go back to a set number per seat, let’s see Mike Johnson (or Hakeem Jeffries) herd 1000 representatives on their side of the aisle! Maybe 200,000/seat?
 
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And if it was a democratic governor pushing for the redistricting would your statement remain the same?

Certainly. Can you name any governor (of any party) that has called for redistricting mid decade after the POTUS calls for 5 more seats prior to the mid-terms?
 
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Certainly. Can you name any governor (of any party) that has called for redistricting mid decade after the POTUS calls for 5 more seats prior to the mid-terms?
Have not done that research. My question related more to the history of gerrymandering by both parties throughout history. It’s ugly no matter which side it comes from.
 
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Gerrymandering schmerrymandering.

Let’s update the Reapportionment Act of 1929 that reaffirmed the set-number of House seats at 435.
Let’s go back to a set number per seat, let’s see Mike Johnson (or Hakeem Jeffries) herd 1000 representatives on their side of the aisle! Maybe the original 200,000/seat is too low?
 
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When only one side plays by the rules, there are no rules, only self-imposed handicaps.

The idea that the Democrats have "play[ed] by the rules" concerning gerrymandering is laughable nonsense.
 
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The idea that the Democrats have "play[ed] by the rules" concerning gerrymandering is laughable nonsense.
Everyone here is playing by the actual rules. Thats not even in dispute.

Problem is the rules, as affirmed by the R dominated supreme court, allow for this travesty from all sides.

If the Rs violate certain norms to gain an advantage, of course the other side should cancel that out, just in the interest of having viewpoints fairly represented in congress as much as possible.
 
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The illusion that anyone cares about fair and honest elections has been completely shattered.
How bout we abolish the electoral college and let the popular vote decide?
 
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The idea that the Democrats have "play[ed] by the rules" concerning gerrymandering is laughable nonsense.
How unfair of them to do the same thing their opponents do. They are supposed to take the high road and lose.
 
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How unfair of them to do the same thing their opponents do. They are supposed to take the high road and lose.

I was simply calling out your false assertion that they've "play[ed] by the rules".

We just have two parties doing whatever it takes for them to win. Fair and honest elections are nothing more than afterthought.
 
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I was simply calling out your false assertion that they've "play[ed] by the rules".

We just have two parties doing whatever it takes for them to win. Fair and honest elections are nothing more than afterthought.
What rules did anyone violate?

(See post #72.)
 
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How bout we abolish the electoral college and let the popular vote decide?
How would changing the method of electing the President affect the method of electing the House of Representatives? The issue here is gerrymandering, which is irrelevant in regards to the electoral college in every state but Nebraska and Maine, because those are the only ones where the congressional districts have an impact on the choosing of electors (Nebraska and Maine, instead of doing winner takes all, gives a presidential candidate one elector for each district they win and the remaining two electors to whoever wins the state overall). However, neither Nebraska nor Maine are considered particularly gerrymandered states, so going to a popular vote for President still doesn't cure anything about gerrymandering.
 
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How would changing the method of electing the President affect the method of electing the House of Representatives? The issue here is gerrymandering, which is irrelevant in regards to the electoral college in every state but Nebraska and Maine, because those are the only ones where the congressional districts have an impact on the choosing of electors (Nebraska and Maine, instead of doing winner takes all, gives a presidential candidate one elector for each district they win and the remaining two electors to whoever wins the state overall). However, neither Nebraska nor Maine are considered particularly gerrymandered states, so going to a popular vote for President still doesn't cure anything about gerrymandering.
It wouldn't affect the House, but the electoral college is gerrymandered itself away from the popular vote.
 
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It wouldn't affect the House, but the electoral college is gerrymandered itself away from the popular vote.
Malapportioned. Gerrymandering is how the states are divided, not how many EVs/Reps it gets.
 
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Texas convened its second special session.

Texas Lt. Gov. Patrick threatens to expel those who won’t stand for Christian prayer

Sen. Angela Paxton — estranged wife of Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton — delivered a Christian invocation “in the name of Jesus, who has saved us, who keeps us safe, and who is coming again.” ... she recently filed for divorce, “on biblical grounds.”

After her prayer, Patrick admonished members of the public gallery who had remained seated: “... If you don’t stand for the invocation, I’ll have you removed. .... [Sitting] will not be tolerated.”

The Freedom from Religion Foundation objected to Patrick’s demand and ... reminded Patrick that he once walked out of the Texas Senate chamber during its first Muslim prayer in 2007, saying at the time that even standing respectfully would appear to be an “endorsement” of the prayer.

Three days later, on Monday, Texas House Speaker Dustin Burrows said Democrats who had arrest warrants issued against them for fleeing the state to break quorum could not leave the House chamber unless they agreed to having police escorts everywhere they go. At least one House member refused that condition and is camped out in the chamber until Wednesday.
 
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California voters widely prefer keeping the state’s independent redistricting commission, new polling shows, as Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) threatens to bypass it to counter GOP gerrymandering in other states.
A Politico-Citrin Center-Possibility Lab survey found 36 percent of California voters support returning congressional redistricting authority to the state Legislature, compared to 64 percent who back the independent redistricting commission.
 
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