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Another look at the moon landing.

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The shape of the earth cannot
save the economy
provide food for people

No but considering the billions of dollars NASA receives each year for space research could.

And as I have asked several times before - deceive them about what?

Every thing from the spinning globe, the moon landings & the shape of the earth.

Well if you really do know that it it Jesus who saves, reconciles us to God and gives eternal life, stop acting as though there is a great deception, led by the devil, which will end up being bad news for globe earthers.

The bad news for globers is that one day there most likely will be a fake invasion via Aliens or a fake exploration of Mars all costing billions of dollars again.
NASA already gets around $25 billion a year. How much more are these deceivers going to waste ?

It can't change life in this world and can't prevent us from enjoying life in the next.

Yes for us Christians but what about the none Christians ? If they knew the truth maybe billions could be joining us too.

God's Gonna Cut You Down- Johnny Cash​

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No but considering the billions of dollars NASA receives each year for space research could.
Maybe, I don't know how they get their funding.

But do you realise that in the process of researching to send people to the moon, NASA have made/produced;
Mobile phones,
Memory foam,
Freeze dried food,
Battery powered tools,
Improved smoke detectors
and a number of other items that are in everyday use.
All of these came from research by NASA. So if you use, and benefit from, one or more of these things, it's thanks to NASA and all the research they did before sending people into space for several weeks.

Every thing from the spinning globe, the moon landings & the shape of the earth.
And how will that affect/improve their everyday lives and have an impact on their spiritual lives?
The very worst that could happen would be if someone were to die, meet God and he were to say, "you were deceived about the shape of the earth" ,(which he will never do because it isn't important.)
What then? We've already said, and agreed, that it has nothing whatsoever to do with salvation so, so what?

The bad news for globers is that one day there most likely will be a fake invasion via Aliens
:ahah:
Oooh, I'm scared.

or a fake exploration of Mars all costing billions of dollars again.
Why is that bad news for globers?
We don't have dollars in this country nor, as far as I know, do we pay anything towards NASA - the "N" of which stands for National and they're in America.
Yes for us Christians but what about the none Christians ? If they knew the truth maybe billions could be joining us too.
So your whole argument is based on "maybe" and "could be"?

I've said it before, this is nonsense.
Do you really think that someone who doesn't believe in God, doesn't believe they are a sinner and need Jesus and is living their life exactly as they want to may one day be told "the earth is flat" and will suddenly say, "Oh, I'm a sinner. I'm going to give up my sinful lifestyle; drugs, alcohol, crime or simply living as though I can save myself by my own good deeds, believe that Jesus was God and that he can save me, and start going to church"?
IF Flat Earth could save people why didn't Jesus teach it? Why didn't he say, "no need to believe in me, just accept that the earth is flat"?
You've already agreed that the shape of the earth can save no one, so no; billions would not join us if they were told the earth was flat.
 
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But do you realise that in the process of researching to send people to the moon, NASA have made/produced;
Mobile phones,
Memory foam,
Freeze dried food,
Battery powered tools,
Improved smoke detectors
and a number of other items that are in everyday use.
All of these came from research by NASA. So if you use, and benefit from, one or more of these things, it's thanks to NASA and all the research they did before sending people into space for several weeks.

All too expensive & rubbish.

Maybe, I don't know how they get their funding.

By shafting the public out of their hard earned money via taxes.

And how will that affect/improve their everyday lives and have an impact on their spiritual lives?

Again, for none believers, loads.

Do you really think that someone who doesn't believe in God, doesn't believe they are a sinner and need Jesus and is living their life exactly as they want to may one day be told "the earth is flat" and will suddenly say, "Oh, I'm a sinner. I'm going to give up my sinful lifestyle; drugs, alcohol, crime or simply living as though I can save myself by my own good deeds, believe that Jesus was God and that he can save me, and start going to church"?

Yes, when I have told people about Genesis 1 it makes them think about the rest of the Bible & what else could be true.

Why is that bad news for globers?

When Jesus returns they'll all find out when the firmament cracks open and huge peacies of it fall & all the stars fall to earth, most if still alive will realize how they've been been lied too & deceived.

Do you really think that someone who doesn't believe in God, doesn't believe they are a sinner and need Jesus and is living their life exactly as they want to may one day be told "the earth is flat" and will suddenly say, "Oh, I'm a sinner. I'm going to give up my sinful lifestyle; drugs, alcohol, crime or simply living as though I can save myself by my own good deeds, believe that Jesus was God and that he can save me, and start going to church"?

Yes.

IF Flat Earth could save people why didn't Jesus teach it?

Jesus being Alpha & Omega probably didn't see the need too.
 
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All too expensive & rubbish.
i) I thought you had a mobile phone?
b) your opinion doesn't alter the fact that these things exist, are used by, and benefit, many and were produced by NASA. I bet you wouldn't say a smoke alarm was rubbish if you needed one.
Again, for none believers, loads.
Such as? You've already agreed that the shape of the earth doesn't affect salvation.

Yes, when I have told people about Genesis 1 it makes them think about the rest of the Bible & what else could be true.
i) Genesis 1 doesn't teach the shape of the earth.
ii) the first couple of verses of Genesis 1 were read from the moon - heard by millions of people. I find that amazing; you just deny it.
iii) why don't you tell people about Jesus?
When Jesus returns they'll all find out when the firmament cracks open and huge peacies of it fall & all the stars fall to earth, most if still alive will realize how they've been been lied too & deceived.
i) Rubbish.
ii) There may not be any believers on earth when Jesus returns - he may have already taken us to be with him.
iii) So what? We can never be deceived about God, we can never be snatched from his hand nor separated from his love. You expect us to fall at the feet of our Saviour and cry because the earth MAY be a different shape to the one we've always believed it to be? Never going to happen. When we see God face to face we won't even care about the earth - never mind what shape it was.
You're more confused than I thought.
Jesus being Alpha & Omega probably didn't see the need too.
IF he didn't see the need to, it means it's not important and can't save anyone - just what we have been saying all along.

But I don't believe for one minute you knew what was in Jesus' mind 2000 years ago.
 
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I bet you wouldn't say a smoke alarm was rubbish if you needed one.

I've had them & they are, I removed them years ago.

ii) There may not be any believers on earth when Jesus returns - he may have already taken us to be with him.

So you believe in a pre-rapture, absolute rubbish.

But I don't believe for one minute you knew what was in Jesus' mind 2000 years ago.

No - But the prophets did, didn't Jesus inspire the whole Bible ?
 
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I've had them & they are, I removed them years ago.
Very foolish.
People have died because their smoke alarms weren't working/they didn't have on.
So you believe in a pre-rapture, absolute rubbish.
No, I said "MAY"; I don't know.

And it's ironic that someone who believes in a flat earth can call another belief "absolute rubbish".
No - But the prophets did, didn't Jesus inspire the whole Bible ?
No, the Holy Spirit did.

And he, or God the Father, could have instructed Jesus to teach a Flat Earth if they had considered it to be remotely important. It isn't.
 
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Are you calling me a fool now ?
I said it was a foolish thing to have done.
The fire brigade themselves talk about the importance of smoke alarms and testing them regularly.

It is a fact that people without smoke alarms have died in fires. Others' lives have been saved by them.
You could try reading Revelation, just a thought !
You have the unscriptural idea of an alien invasion, and then you tell me to go and read Revelation?

There are many interpretations of Revelation; that isn't one of them.
 
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