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Another look at the moon landing.

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Even if it was, that certainly doesn't mean that all the pieces of moon rock are in reality petrified wood. There were 2,200 samples of moon rock brought back from the various missions. Here in the UK, there is a sample in the Natural History Museum, and another in the waiting area at 10 Downing Street. As far as I am aware, nobody has ever claimed that they, or the other 2,000-plus samples, are petrified wood.

Maybe they are not allowed to test them for this reason.
 
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Maybe they are not allowed to test them for this reason.
Are you saying that is the case for all 2000 plus? What evidence do you have?
 
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Maybe they are not allowed to test them for this reason.
Maybe "they" are not allowed to test them? Nonsense.
Who are this mysterious "they" who appear to be responsible for everything?
 
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Are you saying that is the case for all 2000 plus? What evidence do you have?
She is probably looking for a YouTube video even as we speak.
 
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He does but allows Satan to lie & influence.
But God's power is stronger, we have spiritual armour so that we can be protected from the attacks of the evil one, and the sword of the Spirt - the Word of God - so that we can fight against him. Every week, or even day, we pray "deliver us from evil" and we know that God hears our prayers.
Yes Christians may still be caught up in evil, influenced, or tricked, by it and might even succumb to it. But God is in charge - not "they" out there who are apparently faking moon landings, covering up the truth and "not allowing" people to test samples of moon rock in case it shows something that "they" don't want us to know.

Charles Duke and other Christian astronauts who know Jesus and who are filled with the Spirit of Truth, testify that they walked on the moon. They, who have Jesus in them, are speaking the Truth. Yet you, a Christian, have accused them of lying.
If God allows Satan to influence people and "they" are trying to cover this whole thing up and make it seem that it never happened, you are showing that you are on "their" side - by doubting the missions, mocking and giving other explanations for what happened.
I wouldn't have though that was a good position for a Christian who follows the One who IS Truth, to be in.

And by the way, God does not "allow" Satan to lie. This is what Satan does. It's who he is - a liar and the father of lies; Jesus said so. The devil is not only a liar but a murderer and has been from the beginning, John 8:44.
Which means that if the devil is saying that the moon landings were a lie, he is telling a lie and they must be true.
 
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No they haven't.
How do you know? As you so often do, you just make a statement, with absolutely no evidence: "No they haven't," you say, and you seem to expect the rest of us to take your word for it. I am sure they didn't just bring them back and put them on display. A Google search soon brought up information concerning the collection and the composition of the moon rock samples:

"They were placed inside sample bags and then a Special Environmental Sample Container for return to the Earth to protect them from contamination. In contrast to the Earth, large portions of the lunar crust appear to be composed of rocks with high concentrations of the mineral anorthite."

In order to discover their composition, scientists must have tested them. I am sure there will be others on the forum who will know more about this. Indeed, Herman Hedning posted a link to pdf files and books giving results of the analysis of moon rocks.
 
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It is fact that the moon rock that was given to the prime minister of the Netherlands by Buzz Aldrin was pertrified wood.

It was initially displayed at the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam as a prized possession. However, investigations revealed it was not from the moon, but rather a piece of petrified wood, likely from Arizona.
The “rock” was given by the U.S. Ambassador J. William Middendorf not by Aldrin. This was an error and in no way representative of the 842 lbs of actual moon rocks. Your story here is getting old.
 
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But God's power is stronger, we have spiritual armour so that we can be protected from the attacks of the evil one, and the sword of the Spirt - the Word of God - so that we can fight against him.

Not everyone knows this.

If God allows Satan to influence people and "they" are trying to cover this whole thing up and make it seem that it never happened, you are showing that you are on "their" side -

I don't think so.

Which means that if the devil is saying that the moon landings were a lie, he is telling a lie and they must be true.

No you have it back to front, it is the devil who is proclaiming that it is the truth which it's not, just like the spinning globe.
 
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Not everyone knows this.
So it's up to us to tell them.
No you have it back to front, it is the devil who is proclaiming that it is the truth which it's not, just like the spinning globe.
The devil can't proclaim the truth.
He is the Father of lies; it's impossible for him to care about the truth or say "this is true."

If he were trying to get people to believe that a globe earth was true so that he could then say "ha! I've deceived you" , he's obviously pretty thick. He obviously doesn't know that the shape of the earth doesn't affect salvation, cannot keep us from God's love and will not result in our being judged and going to hell.
The devil is spending all this time and effort to try to convince us of something that doesn't matter? What a plonker.

The truth is that the devil couldn't care less about the shape of the earth. He just wants to keep people away from Jesus, so that they don't believe in him and get saved from their sin.
The shape of the earth won't keep people from hell - only Jesus can do that.
 
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He is the Father of lies; it's impossible for him to care about the truth or say "this is true."

As he is a liar, yes he would say this is the truth to deceive.

If he were trying to get people to believe that a globe earth was true so that he could then say "ha! I've deceived you" , he's obviously pretty thick. He obviously doesn't know that the shape of the earth doesn't affect salvation, cannot keep us from God's love and will not result in our being judged and going to hell.
The devil is spending all this time and effort to try to convince us of something that doesn't matter? What a plonker.

Like I said there are billions who don't realize this.

The truth is that the devil couldn't care less about the shape of the earth. He just wants to keep people away from Jesus, so that they don't believe in him and get saved from their sin

And what better way to do it than to lead peple into a false reality.

The shape of the earth won't keep people from hell - only Jesus can do that.

I know.
 
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The “rock” was given by the U.S. Ambassador J. William Middendorf not by Aldrin. This was an error and in no way representative of the 842 lbs of actual moon rocks. Your story here is getting old.
She has been told this before, but she keeps posting these false claims like a dog returning to its vomit (Proverbs 26:11)
 
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As he is a liar, yes he would say this is the truth to deceive.
And as I have asked several times before - deceive them about what?
People do not believe in/reject God because of the shape of the earth. Otherwise, according to you, all flat earthers would believe in God
Like I said there are billions who don't realize this.
And as I said, it's our job to tell them.
If God's children can't tell people about God, who can?

And what better way to do it than to lead peple into a false reality.
If you are saying that the shape of the earth has the power to keep people from Jesus, i) you are mistaken, ii) that is the work of the Holy Spirit, and you are therefore saying the shape of the earth has more power than the Holy Spirit, and iii) you are mistaken.

If you are saying that the best way the devil can keep people from Jesus is by letting them believe that the earth is a certain shape, you need a lot more Christian teaching.
The devil tries to keep people from Jesus by telling them that they aren't interested in Religion", by telling them they can't trust the Bible, by saying that if God existed he would sort out the suffering in the world. He sometimes whispers, "you don't need to pray; you have too much else to do". or "you don't need to go to church; they're all sinners there and you know more than they do". (NB not going to church because of illness is NOT the same.) Or the devil might get people fixated on money, alcohol, having fun, living for themselves.
The shape of the earth wouldn't be on his list of best ways to keep people from Jesus, even if it went down to 1,000. It certainly is not the best way.
Well if you really do know that it it Jesus who saves, reconciles us to God and gives eternal life, stop acting as though there is a great deception, led by the devil, which will end up being bad news for globe earthers.

There is no deception, no plot and no false reality.
The shape of the earth cannot stop war, save the economy, lower unemployment, provide food for people or anything else. It can't change life in this world and can't prevent us from enjoying life in the next. It cannot save us, condemn us or make us more Godlike.
It means nothing, zilch, nada.
 
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