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Hegseth Boosts Video of Pastors Saying Women Shouldn't Vote, Advocating Repeal of 19th Amendment

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If a husband decides that for his family, he has the authority to do so. There is absolutely nothing unbiblical about it.

Voting obviously didn't exist when the scriptures were written. But some Christians do believe women should not hold positions of authority within the church. I suppose some would use the same rational to deny their spouse a vote.

But personally I dont think it is wise because married couples almost always vote for the same person. So they would be cutting their votes in half.

Okay, so you disagree with the pastor referenced by Hegseth.
 
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I won't hold back because it is the truth. Modern feminism is selfish and hollow. Many women now find themselves in their late thirties alone and empty because they believed the lie that they should focus on themselves and worry about having a family after accomplishing everything they want to do. Although they may have a nice house, car, and well paying career, they are depressed and miserable because they have nobody to share it with. They want a husband, but cannot find one. They want kids, but the biological clock is winding down.





This is reality of modern feminism and why traditional biblical values work.
Sex and the City then. Personally, I've been married to a femininist for 45 years. She was working in a machine shop when I met her, she got an ag degree along the way and when she retired was managing a hog farm. Sounds to me like you've not so much got an issue with with feminists as with ditzy bourgeous boomer chicks. (and I don't blame you)
 
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I won't hold back because it is the truth. Modern feminism is selfish and hollow. Many women now find themselves in their late thirties alone and empty because they believed the lie that they should focus on themselves and worry about having a family after accomplishing everything they want to do. Although they may have a nice house, car, and well paying career, they are depressed and miserable because they have nobody to share it with. They want a husband, but cannot find one. They want kids, but the biological clock is winding down.





This is reality of modern feminism and why traditional biblical values work.
Of the four links, two of them are about the same woman and the last one is a call for submissions on articles for the purposes of a study, not an actual statement of any findings. The third link is a tabloid.

You all also need to come together and figure out what your stance is... Is it that women are childless and lonely in their 30's, bemoaning that there are no men for them and mourning that feminism sold them short? Or is there a male loneliness epidemic where swaths of men are not able to marry because women don't want them and are self-reliant because feminism worked too well?

I won't even dive into how feminism is not "focus on yourself" and "throw yourself into a career." That's just silly.
 
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I won't hold back because it is the truth. Modern feminism is selfish and hollow. Many women now find themselves in their late thirties alone and empty because they believed the lie that they should focus on themselves and worry about having a family after accomplishing everything they want to do. Although they may have a nice house, car, and well paying career, they are depressed and miserable because they have nobody to share it with. They want a husband, but cannot find one. They want kids, but the biological clock is winding down.




Wow, a sample size of 1 (one) in two separate rw tabloids.

This is reality of modern feminism and why traditional biblical values work.
Lols. Even this source argues against your claim. The survey is from the Mormons and more than half disagree with you.

So how’s that working out now? The American Family Survey recently asked: “All things considered, has feminism benefited American families?”
Only a little more than half (58.6%) of respondents said yes.
 
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Sex and the City then. Personally, I've been married to a femininist for 45 years. She was working in a machine shop when I met her, she got an ag degree along the way and when she retired was managing a hog farm. Sounds to me like you've not so much got an issue with with feminists as with ditzy bourgeous boomer chicks. (and I don't blame you)
The message I'm taking away from his posts is that the real ruling, power demographic are modern feminist wives with careers and kids because they fought against all the odds, the patriarchy, and the "woke crowd," to truly have it all. Maybe that's why I'm so tired all the time... Carrying the weight of society on my back. LoL
 
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I thought it was the illegal immigrants keeping you down. Now it’s independent women who are the problem?

Who ever will you scapegoat next?
No. I dont entirely blame feminism, but weak men who abdicated their authority and responsibilities, failing to lead their homes, abandoning their children physically and emotionally. There are literally entire generations of adult children who do not know what it means to be a man because they were never shown. Modern feminism is a product of women nolonger feeling safe, valued, and cared for in the home. Feminist dont trust men because men failed to follow the biblical instructions given to them.

Ephesians 5:25-31 NIV
[25] Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her [26] to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, [27] and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. [28] In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. [29] After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— [30] for we are members of his body. [31] “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”

Furthermore, the balance of love and respect has spiraled out of control.

Ephesians 5:33 NIV
[33] However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

When a woman doesnt feel loved, it is hard for them to show respect. When a man isn't respected, it is hard for them to show love. Feminism doesnt respect men which is why they are not loved by men and often find themselves alone and bitter.
 
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I won't hold back because it is the truth. Modern feminism is selfish and hollow. Many women now find themselves in their late thirties alone and empty because they believed the lie that they should focus on themselves and worry about having a family after accomplishing everything they want to do. Although they may have a nice house, car, and well paying career, they are depressed and miserable because they have nobody to share it with. They want a husband, but cannot find one. They want kids, but the biological clock is winding down.





This is reality of modern feminism and why traditional biblical values work.
Wow: Fox News, Western Journal, and NY Post - it's like you hit the right-wing outrage machine trifecta. Too bad you linked to an actual journal instead of Breitbart, else you could've had the superfecta.
 
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No. I dont entirely blame feminism, but weak men who abdicated their authority and responsibilities, failing to lead their homes, abandoning their children physically and emotionally. There are literally entire generations of adult children who do not know what it means to be a man because they were never shown. Modern feminism is a product of women nolonger feeling safe, valued, and cared for in the home. Feminist dont trust men because men failed to follow the biblical instructions given to them.

Ephesians 5:25-31 NIV
[25] Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her [26] to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, [27] and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. [28] In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. [29] After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— [30] for we are members of his body. [31] “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”

Furthermore, the balance of love and respect has spiraled out of control.

Ephesians 5:33 NIV
[33] However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.
Oh my gosh, are we actually going to say that something is men’s fault?! That if men were better men, women wouldn’t have had to undergo an entire movement to have the lives they want where they’re respected and have rights?

When a woman doesnt feel loved, it is hard for them to show respect. When a man isn't respected, it is hard for them to show love. Feminism doesnt respect men which is why they are not loved by men and often find themselves alone and bitter.
Oh… So close. Men cant love women who don’t respect them, but feminism makes women not respect them, not men act in a way that make them unworthy of respect.

You almost had it, but you just couldn’t stick the landing. In the last second, you jumbled it so that it was all still women’s fault, lol.
 
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Sex and the City then. Personally, I've been married to a femininist for 45 years. She was working in a machine shop when I met her, she got an ag degree along the way and when she retired was managing a hog farm. Sounds to me like you've not so much got an issue with with feminists as with ditzy bourgeous boomer chicks. (and I don't blame you)
"Feminism" tends to be all over the place in common parlance. People use it to mean what they want it to mean at that moment in the discussion.

But Radical Feminism is a very specific ideology that has very particular planks from Critical Theory in its platform.

And it's Radical Feminism that's being taught in colleges. It's Radical Feminism that the Democratic Party leadership ascribes to.
 
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No. I dont entirely blame feminism, but weak men who abdicated their authority and responsibilities, failing to lead their homes, abandoning their children physically and emotionally. There are literally entire generations of adult children who do not know what it means to be a man because they were never shown. Modern feminism is a product of women nolonger feeling safe, valued, and cared for in the home. Feminist dont trust men because men failed to follow the biblical instructions given to them.

Ephesians 5:25-31 NIV
[25] Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her [26] to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, [27] and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. [28] In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. [29] After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— [30] for we are members of his body. [31] “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”

Furthermore, the balance of love and respect has spiraled out of control.

Ephesians 5:33 NIV
[33] However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

When a woman doesnt feel loved, it is hard for them to show respect. When a man isn't respected, it is hard for them to show love. Feminism doesnt respect men which is why they are not loved by men and often find themselves alone and bitter.
I'm glad that we're well past the time when this absurd argument would have any effect on our society.

Respect goes both ways, and authority can't be an exclusive club for men.
 
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Wow: Fox News, Western Journal, and NY Post - it's like you hit the right-wing outrage machine trifecta. Too bad you linked to an actual journal instead of Breitbart, else you could've had the superfecta.
So you are completely invalidating the women because of who is reporting it. Is that proper feminism? And people call me a misogynist?
 
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Oh my gosh, are we actually going to say that something is men’s fault?! That if men were better men, women wouldn’t have had to undergo an entire movement to have the lives they want where they’re respected and have rights?


Oh… So close. Men cant love women who don’t respect them, but feminism makes women not respect them, not men act in a way that make them unworthy of respect.

You almost had it, but you just couldn’t stick the landing. In the last second, you jumbled it so that it was all still women’s fault, lol.
There lies the root of the problem, with modern feminism, women are taught to believe that all of their problems are the fault of men. As a result of this conditioning, they often lack the self-awareness to see how they have contributed to their own problems. You were fine when I was bashing men, but when I pointed out how women contribute to the problem, I "missed the landing."
 
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So you are completely invalidating the women because of who is reporting it. Is that proper feminism? And people call me a misogynist?
No, I'm not completely invalidating her. I can sympathize with the notion of having missed out on things due to previous choices. But that's not unique to feminism or women; that's a reality of being human.

That said, I am somewhat suspect of her claims (or at least what I can gather of them because I can't get past the paywalls in your articles) - she's a professional lifestyle/relationship author, so she has some incentive to ham it up:

Judging by the headlines of her pieces, it appears as if her desires in life have changed over time, which is a thing that happens. That's part of why divorce rates are higher among people who get married earlier - they're still growing up.

What I do completely invalidate are your rage-bait site's spins on her and their marketing it to heavily male audiences eager to find any excuse to decry feminism. Frankly, I'm skeptical you even read those pieces given that you linked to a journal that didn't make your case, that you linked to the same story twice and the non-journals all require some sort of account to read (I think the Fox acct is free) - but hey, the headlines were all you needed to make your case, right?
 
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There lies the root of the problem, with modern feminism, women are taught to believe that all of their problems are the fault of men. As a result of this conditioning, they often lack the self-awareness to see how they have contributed to their own problems. You were fine when I was bashing men, but when I pointed out how women contribute to the problem, I "missed the landing."
lol, the guy blaming everything on feminism complains about a lack of self-awareness.
 
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There lies the root of the problem, with modern feminism, women are taught to believe that all of their problems are the fault of men.
I must have missed that day in feminism school.
As a result of this conditioning, they often lack the self-awareness to see how they have contributed to their own problems.
The Venn diagram of problems I create for myself and problems somebody else creates for me isn't a complete circle, but it's certainly rounder than it should be.
You were fine when I was bashing men, but when I pointed out how women contribute to the problem, I "missed the landing."
Oh, you didn't say they contribute. You said they were the source. That's where you didn't stick the landing.

This is, of course, presupposing that I think feminism is the plague of the society, which I don't.
 
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Blaming everything on feminism? Did you miss my rant about weak men?
Ah yes, how could I have forgotten.

I am curious to know what constitutes "weak" and "strong" amongst the segment the boosts leaders who act as petulant, dishonest, selfish, self-aggrandizing, retaliatory, and boastful as Trump and the folks with whom he's surrounded himself. This thread is about Pete Hegseth, who's admitted to multiple affairs, has been the subject of multiple allegations of abuse towards women, and left his CVA job because he was an alcoholic and a poor manager.

Is this the picture of strength? Or how about his boss, who's also had multiple affairs, having dragged at least two of his wives through the tabloids, and cheated and conned people out of their money for decades? Is that strength?

Who among your crew presents an image of a strong man we ought to emulate?
 
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Do you then admit that your accusation about me "blaming everything on feminism" to be false?
You blamed weak men on feminism too, my dude.
 
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Indeed. But I think the church here needs to push harder. I have a great deal of respect for you as Priest and I am also aware of how much guff you have taken for it in this forum. And you saw what happened with Bishop Budde. She is now, according to the administration a "blasphemous pervert," a slur which has been repeated unhindered in this forum. I don't know of anyone who is really speaking out, except for Father Ed Trevors, and he is in Canada.
I'd missed that particular slur, although I'm not surprised given the backlash in general.

I agree that "the church" needs to push harder, and segments of it are pushing very hard. But I'm sure you can understand that in some places, it's an uphill battle.
 
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