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Hegseth Boosts Video of Pastors Saying Women Shouldn't Vote, Advocating Repeal of 19th Amendment

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What should really concern us, though, is how conservative Christianity has encouraged that warped fantasy he has wrapped himself in.
Oh, it concerns me. I know exactly how much I have to lose.
 
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Yes. But women are not required to sign up for the draft. Can you just imagine the feminist outrage if Republicans made women sign up for the draft? The streets will be flooded with blue haired feminist women to protest.
It would be confusing to make women sign up to be called to active front-line service considering the lengths those same republicans have taken to keep women from those roles, but whatever. If they can work out how to draft, house, care for, assign roles to, and provide medical care for women, maybe they should consider allowing them to register.

Me, I’d rather we just abolish the draft, but if you’re so intent on keeping it, why not?

What’s this weird blue-haired feminist protest fantasy of yours? Are you hoping to provoke women for some reason?
 
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It would be confusing to make women sign up to be called to active front-line service considering the lengths those same republicans have taken to keep women from those roles, but whatever. If they can work out how to draft, house, care for, assign roles to, and provide medical care for women, maybe they should consider allowing them to register.

Me, I’d rather we just abolish the draft, but if you’re so intent on keeping it, why not?

What’s this weird blue-haired feminist protest fantasy of yours? Are you hoping to provoke women for some reason?
Modern feminism is a sham and is destroying women, families, and the fabric of our society.
 
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Modern feminism is a sham and is destroying women, families, and the fabric of our society.
Given what you think the "fabric of society" should be, it's not a moment too soon.
 
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It's very sad. I feel sorry for the guy. What should really concern us, though, is how conservative Christianity has encouraged that warped fantasy he has wrapped himself in.
Yes, and it fits right in with the Hegseth pov.
 
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Whatever. Do women want equality or not? The truth is that women cannot handle the responsibilities and expectations than men endure...period. Both physically, mentally, and emotionally. Women need men just as much as men need women. In armed conflict, women have proven time and time again that they are incapable. The science proves that even in the stone age, women needed men to protect and sustain them. This is still true today. Even the most entitled "boss babe" man hating feminist depend on men daily to fix their cars, build their roads, fix their AC, clean their sewers, and build their homes. The list goes on and on.

There was a "woman strike" several years ago in Europe in which thousands of women simultaneously took leave to make a statement about how important their roles were. Do you know what the common result was? No new HR complaints!

Furthermore, there is a growing trend of women on TikTok crying in their cars about how modern feminism lied to them because they are now in their late 30's or early 40's and did everything they were told would make them happy. They have accomplished all their goals, and move up the corporate ladder, but now they cannot find a man to enjoy it with. They cry, "Where did all the good men go!" All the good men were rejected by them years ago and have now found good women and married them hand have children. Now, they are alone in their apparment with only their cat to show them affection. Truly sad.

Going back to the OP topic, as much as people hate the truth, the truth is that women who follow traditional values such as the wife in the video, are generally happier than those who follow modern women values and feminist ideology.

So I have no problem showing chivalry to a traditional woman who holds traditional and biblical values such as those outlined in Ephesians 5, but for the modern women who think they are not just equal to a man, but better, they are on their own. I will treat them just like any other man, they will fix their own cars, carry their own heavy luggage, and open their own doors. And God forbid one tries to assault me, I will fight them like a man. The least they can do is grow a pair that they think they deserve and sign up for the draft if they wish to vote, have any federal employment, or benefits. Why? Because that is what men have to do. Modern women cannot survive a week if they actually received equality with men and were treated the same way.

Bottom line: TRADITIONAL WOMEN WHO SUBMIT TO THEIR HUSBANDS AND FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS OUTLINED IN EPHESIANS 5 ARE HAPPIER THEN THOSE WHO DONT!
All I heard from this rant is that because women can’t do the draft, they shouldn’t be allowed to vote, and women can’t understand how hard it is to be a man because you believe they can’t have the male experience.

Applying that logic to the reverse, because men can’t understand how hard it is to be a woman and because they don’t have uteruses, men should be disallowed from making legislation related to women. What was it? They have no skin in the game, so they don’t get to say anything about it.
 
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Modern feminism is a sham and is destroying women, families, and the fabric of our society.
I've done OK by it, but go off and don't hold back. Let us all know how you really feel.
 
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It’s becoming much clearer how and why so many on the right seemingly have no problem with Trump’s antidemocratic attacks on our electoral system. They never believed in universal suffrage to begin with. Tossing out votes and undoing elections are as close as they can get to flat out denying someone their right to vote.
The populist right has always been illiberal. Even most of the self-described libertarians have turned out to be little more than libertarian-for-me-but-not-for-thee. The difference now is that the "elite" establishment conservatives no longer have enough power to keep things looking civil.
 
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Whatever. Do women want equality or not? The truth is that women cannot handle the responsibilities and expectations than men endure...period. Both physically, mentally, and emotionally. Women need men just as much as men need women. In armed conflict, women have proven time and time again that they are incapable. The science proves that even in the stone age, women needed men to protect and sustain them. This is still true today. Even the most entitled "boss babe" man hating feminist depend on men daily to fix their cars, build their roads, fix their AC, clean their sewers, and build their homes. The list goes on and on.

There was a "woman strike" several years ago in Europe in which thousands of women simultaneously took leave to make a statement about how important their roles were. Do you know what the common result was? No new HR complaints!

Furthermore, there is a growing trend of women on TikTok crying in their cars about how modern feminism lied to them because they are now in their late 30's or early 40's and did everything they were told would make them happy. They have accomplished all their goals, and move up the corporate ladder, but now they cannot find a man to enjoy it with. They cry, "Where did all the good men go!" All the good men were rejected by them years ago and have now found good women and married them hand have children. Now, they are alone in their apparment with only their cat to show them affection. Truly sad.

Going back to the OP topic, as much as people hate the truth, the truth is that women who follow traditional values such as the wife in the video, are generally happier than those who follow modern women values and feminist ideology.

So I have no problem showing chivalry to a traditional woman who holds traditional and biblical values such as those outlined in Ephesians 5, but for the modern women who think they are not just equal to a man, but better, they are on their own. I will treat them just like any other man, they will fix their own cars, carry their own heavy luggage, and open their own doors. And God forbid one tries to assault me, I will fight them like a man. The least they can do is grow a pair that they think they deserve and sign up for the draft if they wish to vote, have any federal employment, or benefits. Why? Because that is what men have to do. Modern women cannot survive a week if they actually received equality with men and were treated the same way.

Bottom line: TRADITIONAL WOMEN WHO SUBMIT TO THEIR HUSBANDS AND FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS OUTLINED IN EPHESIANS 5 ARE HAPPIER THEN THOSE WHO DONT!
You know, for being a big strong man, you sound very weak and emotional here.
 
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Modern feminism is a sham and is destroying women, families, and the fabric of our society.
I thought it was the illegal immigrants keeping you down. Now it’s independent women who are the problem?

Who ever will you scapegoat next?
 
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Modern feminism is a sham and is destroying women, families, and the fabric of our society.

...because men obviously have no role in that.

At least you have shared your actual stance.
 
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I thought it was the illegal immigrants keeping you down. Now it’s independent women who are the problem?

Who ever will you scapegoat next?
Certainly not white people. That'd be too woke.
 
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Of course you can’t. You can no longer see a hole when you’re in it.
I disagree. Christian marriages will be happier and more fulfilling if they followed the instructions outlined in Ephesians. Traditional women who hold traditional values ought to be treated with chivalry and deserve a traditional man who will protect and provide. Modern women feminists who hold to modern values in which they not only believe they are equal to men, but in many ways, better than men, they deserve to be treated like a man and fend for themselves. So I really do not see this "hole" that I am supposedly digging. Perhaps you can explain?
 
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Oh, it concerns me. I know exactly how much I have to lose.
Indeed. But I think the church here needs to push harder. I have a great deal of respect for you as Priest and I am also aware of how much guff you have taken for it in this forum. And you saw what happened with Bishop Budde. She is now, according to the administration a "blasphemous pervert," a slur which has been repeated unhindered in this forum. I don't know of anyone who is really speaking out, except for Father Ed Trevors, and he is in Canada.
 
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I disagree. Christian marriages will be happier and more fulfilling if they followed the instructions outlined in Ephesians. Traditional women who hold traditional values ought to be treated with chivalry and deserve a traditional man who will protect and provide.

...and vote on behalf of his wife?
 
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I've done OK by it, but go off and don't hold back. Let us all know how you really feel.
I won't hold back because it is the truth. Modern feminism is selfish and hollow. Many women now find themselves in their late thirties alone and empty because they believed the lie that they should focus on themselves and worry about having a family after accomplishing everything they want to do. Although they may have a nice house, car, and well paying career, they are depressed and miserable because they have nobody to share it with. They want a husband, but cannot find one. They want kids, but the biological clock is winding down.





This is reality of modern feminism and why traditional biblical values work.
 
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...and vote on behalf of his wife?
If a husband decides that for his family, he has the authority to do so. There is absolutely nothing unbiblical about it. But personally I dont think it is wise because married couples almost always vote for the same person. So they would be cutting their votes in half.
 
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I disagree. Christian marriages will be happier and more fulfilling if they followed the instructions outlined in Ephesians. Traditional women who hold traditional values ought to be treated with chivalry and deserve a traditional man who will protect and provide. Modern women feminists who hold to modern values in which they not only believe they are equal to men, but in many ways, better than men, they deserve to be treated like a man and fend for themselves. So I really do not see this "hole" that I am supposedly digging. Perhaps you can explain?
The hole you're digging is the one where you said women shouldn't be allowed to vote, then the back-and-forth you've done since then, varying between "that isn't what I said" and doubling down.

I have absolutely zero doubt that marriages for men would be happier and more fulfilling for men if their word was law and everybody is beneath them and has to obey his word. And I absolutely agree that the women who want that dynamic should pair off with the men who want to live that way. Being one of those "modern women feminists," I can tell you we certainly don't want them, so those women can have them with nary a peep from us. I'll just be happy over here, in my marriage and they can be happy over there in theirs.
 
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