Another look at the moon landing.

prodromos · Tuesday at 4:24 PM

Apple Sky said:
But the moon isn't the cause the tides.

But tides don't exist because water always finds its level, right?

Apple Sky · Tuesday at 4:31 PM

prodromos said:
But tides don't exist because water always finds its level, right?

Yes water always finds it's own level & tides are not caused by the moons pull, the tides are caused by the magnetic pole up in the north.

Look up verses in the Bible, 'The sides of the north'.

In Psalm 48:2, "sides of the north" refers to Mount Zion, the holy mountain and city of God, signifying its elevated and prominent position. The phrase is used to emphasize the grandeur and importance of Mount Zion,

Strong in Him · Tuesday at 4:45 PM

Apple Sky said:
Unlike you I suppose

No - but I do try, and I don't dismiss all scientists and astronauts, as liars or people who are out to brainwash us.

Apple Sky · Tuesday at 4:51 PM

Strong in Him said:
No - but I do try,

Yes I'll give you that, you do try.

prodromos · Tuesday at 8:47 PM

Apple Sky said:
Yes water always finds it's own level & tides are not caused by the moons pull, the tides are caused by the magnetic pole up in the north.

So how does that work? The tides are constantly changing yet the earth's magnetic field doesn't fluctuate. Whoever told you tides are caused by the earth's magnetic field has been smoking the illegal stuff

Apple Sky said:
Look up verses in the Bible, 'The sides of the north'.

In Psalm 48:2, "sides of the north" refers to Mount Zion, the holy mountain and city of God, signifying its elevated and prominent position. The phrase is used to emphasize the grandeur and importance of Mount Zion,

Nothing about magnetism mentioned there. I thought you only went by God's word. Also weird that you seem to be confusing Mt Zion in Jerusalem with your fictitious mountain at the North Pole. You really have no clue at all, do you.

Apple Sky · Wednesday at 1:13 AM

prodromos said:
So how does that work? The tides are constantly changing yet the earth's magnetic field doesn't fluctuate. Whoever told you tides are caused by the earth's magnetic field has been smoking the illegal stuff

At the north pole & under the the star Polaris there is a very high magnetic black rock, around this black there is a giant whirlpool where by this whirl pool in sucks and out sucks the sea waters every six hours causing our ocean tides.

This is a map of the Arctic as prepared in 1569 by Gerardus Mercator, a Belgian cartographer and explorer. At the center of the map is a mountain, said to be positioned at the North Pole. This mountain is know as Mount Meru, the magnetic mountain.

Mount Meru is know to be the “center of the universe” in both Buddhist and Hindu cosmologies. It is comparable to Mount Olympus of Greek mythology in that it was the home to the Gods.

The mountain is said to be surrounded by the “indrawing seas” as depicted above by the four rivers and this supposedly creates a whirlpool effect.

Mount Meru is said to be the navel of the world.

It’s interesting to think of what our navels used to do for us.

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It was the center which received the “indrawing sea” of our mother’s blood (saline, sea-like)

You tube https://youtu.be/SRhZI29lr3I?si=udMTAWkWDElXToKE

prodromos said:
Nothing about magnetism mentioned there. I thought you only went by God's word. Also weird that you seem to be confusing Mt Zion in Jerusalem with your fictitious mountain at the North Pole.

Mount Zion stands on the sides of north as stated in the bible & it is where Satan took Jesus to show & offer him all the kingdoms of world.
You can't see all the kingdoms of world from Jerusalem.

David Lamb · Wednesday at 1:23 AM

Apple Sky said:
Those pictures were faked, watch, 'A funny thing happened on the way to the moon'

you tube https://youtu.be/xciCJfbTvE4?si=KCMugFsNr7uQfwh5

The trouble is with you tube that anybody seems able to post anything there, so you can find videos which are supposed to prove that the Loch Ness Monster exists, and videos that say they prove that God doesn't exist. Put that against the testimonies of the astronauts who went, especially those Christian astronauts who include descriptions of their trip to the moon as part of their Christian testimony. I know whom I would rather believe.

David Lamb · Wednesday at 1:38 AM

Apple Sky said:
And I've explained why to David Lamb.

You haven't explained why to David Lamb. You have become more and more confusing, starting off by saying that there are two verses, one saying "circle" and the other saying "ball" That was Post 1962). Then in Post 1969 you wrote: "There are two verse's which says Circle and the other says ball." So then you seemed to be talking about three verses, two saying "circle" and another saying "ball". I have said t you many, many times that the verse you quote for "circle" does not say that the earth is a circle. It says that the Lord sits above the circle of the earth. In other words, the earth as a circle or circuit. The verse does not say, "The Lord sits above the earth, and the earth is a circle." The ball verse has nothing whatever to do with the shape of the earth.

Apple Sky · Wednesday at 1:41 AM

David Lamb said:
The trouble is with you tube that anybody seems able to post anything there, so you can find videos which are supposed to prove that the Loch Ness Monster exists, and videos that say they prove that God doesn't exist.

It all boils down to discernment.

David Lamb · Wednesday at 1:44 AM

Apple Sky said:
Yes water always finds it's own level & tides are not caused by the moons pull, the tides are caused by the magnetic pole up in the north.

Look up verses in the Bible, 'The sides of the north'.

In Psalm 48:2, "sides of the north" refers to Mount Zion, the holy mountain and city of God, signifying its elevated and prominent position. The phrase is used to emphasize the grandeur and importance of Mount Zion,

But water is not affected by magnetism. It cannot be magnetism that causes tides. And trying to make the words of Psalm 48 mean that Mount Zion is in the vicinity of the north magnetic pole just does not make sense. Mount Zion is where Jerusalem is, nowhere near the north magnetic pole.

Apple Sky · Wednesday at 1:52 AM

David Lamb said:
It cannot be magnetism that causes tides.

Why not ?

David Lamb said:
Mount Zion is where Jerusalem is, nowhere near the north magnetic pole.

So which mountain did Satan take Jesus, to show him all the Kingdoms of the world ?

David Lamb · Wednesday at 1:53 AM

Apple Sky said:
At the north pole & under the the star Polaris there is a very high magnetic black rock, around this black there is a giant whirlpool where by this whirl pool in sucks and out sucks the sea waters every six hours causing our ocean tides.

This is a map of the Arctic as prepared in 1569 by Gerardus Mercator, a Belgian cartographer and explorer. At the center of the map is a mountain, said to be positioned at the North Pole. This mountain is know as Mount Meru, the magnetic mountain.

Mount Meru is know to be the “center of the universe” in both Buddhist and Hindu cosmologies. It is comparable to Mount Olympus of Greek mythology in that it was the home to the Gods.

The mountain is said to be surrounded by the “indrawing seas” as depicted above by the four rivers and this supposedly creates a whirlpool effect.

Mount Meru is said to be the navel of the world.

It’s interesting to think of what our navels used to do for us.

It was the center which received the “indrawing sea” of our mother’s blood (saline, sea-like)

You tube https://youtu.be/SRhZI29lr3I?si=udMTAWkWDElXToKE

Mount Zion stands on the sides of north as stated in the bible & it is where Satan took Jesus to show & offer him all the kingdoms of world.
You can't see all the kingdoms of world from Jerusalem.

Not Mercator again. He never even went to the North Pole. And Mount Zion is in the Middle East. The bible doesn't tell us that Satan took Jesus to Mount Zion, except that in another temptation we are told that he took Jesus to the highest pinnacle of the temple which is located near or on Mount Zion in the north part of Jerusalem. You can't see all the kingdoms of the world from Everest, the highest mountain. The temptation must have involved the supernatural.

Apple Sky · Wednesday at 2:07 AM

David Lamb said:
The bible doesn't tell us that Satan took Jesus to Mount Zion, except that in another temptation we are told that he took Jesus to the highest pinnacle of the temple which is located near or on Mount Zion in the north part of Jerusalem

King James Bible
Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

David Lamb said:
You can't see all the kingdoms of the world from Everest, the highest mountain.

No you can't but you could from Mount Zion/ Rupes Nigra which is situated on the sides of the north.

David Lamb said:
The temptation must have involved the supernatural.

Not the supernatural again ?

Strong in Him · Wednesday at 2:11 AM

Apple Sky said:
At the north pole & under the the star Polaris there is a very high magnetic black rock, around this black there is a giant whirlpool where by this whirl pool in sucks and out sucks the sea waters every six hours causing our ocean tides.

Evidence?
Does it say this in the Bible?

Apple Sky said:
This is a map of the Arctic as prepared in 1569 by Gerardus Mercator, a Belgian cartographer and explorer.

How accurate is a 450+ year old map, and why are you relying on it?

Apple Sky said:
Mount Meru is know to be the “center of the universe” in both Buddhist and Hindu cosmologies.

Why are you taking notice of Buddhist and Hindi cosmologies, while stating that Christian astronauts and scientists are liars and out to deceive us?

Apple Sky said:
It is comparable to Mount Olympus of Greek mythology in that it was the home to the Gods.

There is only one God, who created everything.
The earth is the Lord's and everything in it, Psalm 24:1.

Apple Sky said:
Mount Meru is said to be the navel of the world.

It’s interesting to think of what our navels used to do for us.

It was the center which received the “indrawing sea” of our mother’s blood (saline, sea-like)

If you're trying to say that our navels once connected us to our mothers and were the thing that gave us food, and life - I think you'll find that was the umbilical cord, which is cut soon after birth as it is no longer needed.
The navels is the scar left by the cord after it has dropped off.

Apple Sky said:
Mount Zion stands on the sides of north as stated in the bible & it is where Satan took Jesus to show & offer him all the kingdoms of world.
You can't see all the kingdoms of world from Jerusalem.

Even if that were true, what has it got to do with "Mount Meru"?

And why would you rather accept a 450+ year old map and "Buddhist and Hindu cosmologies" that modern scientific facts?

Apple Sky · Wednesday at 2:11 AM

Is there a whirlpool at the North Pole?

During most winters the polar vortex is like a giant counterclockwise whirlpool spinning around the north pole with cold air at its center.

Strong in Him · Wednesday at 2:24 AM

Apple Sky said:
Not the supernatural again ?

Why are you rolling your eyes at "supernatural"?
God is supernatural - he is Spirit, not a man, and is above the laws of nature.
Miracles are supernatural. Paul talks about Spiritual warfare, which is supernatural. Angels and demons are supernatural.

Jesus was God in human form - God took on flesh. Satan has never been human. So when he took Jesus to a high mountain to show him the kingdoms of the world, this could have been in a vision. Jesus didn't see to physically look at the kingdoms of the world - he created them. Everything in the world was created by God through Jesus.

Again, you are obsessing about actual words in the Bible and ignoring the meaning behind them.

David Lamb · Wednesday at 2:26 AM

Apple Sky said:
King James Bible
Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

Yes, "an exceeding high mountain," not "Mount Zion."

Apple Sky said:
No you can't but you could from Mount Zion/ Rupes Nigra which is situated on the sides of the north.

The sides of the north were referring to Munt Zion and the north part of Jerusalem, nothing about "Rupes Nigra."

Apple Sky said:
Not the supernatural again ?

Why not the supernatural? If from even the top of the highest mountain in the world, Everest, one cannot see all the kingdoms of the world, how else would the devil show them to Jesus? It seems strange that you as a Christian should object to using the word "supernatural".

David Lamb · Wednesday at 2:32 AM

Apple Sky said:
It all boils down to discernment.

But how do we discern which you tube videos are true? If you say, "It depends whether the video agrees with what I already believe," then it is arguing in circles to then use such videos as apposed proof of what you believe. It is saying, "The video is true because I believe the things it presents," and "The things I believe are true because the video says so."

Apple Sky · Wednesday at 2:33 AM

Strong in Him said:
Even if that were true, what has it got to do with "Mount Meru"?

Mount Meru or Rupes Nigra is one of the highest mounts.

Strong in Him said:
There is only one God, who created everything.
The earth is the Lord's and everything in it, Psalm 24:1.

Yes and he also created a level earth & Mount Meru or Rupes Nigra.

Strong in Him said:
How accurate is a 450+ year old map, and why are you relying on it?

It is used by virtually all major online map providers, including Google Maps, CARTO, Mapbox, Bing Maps, OpenStreetMap, Mapquest, Esri, and many others. Its official EPSG identifier is EPSG:3857

David Lamb · Wednesday at 2:41 AM

Apple Sky said:
Why not ?

I have already explained this. Water is not affected by magnetism. Take a really strong magnet, and hold it over a small drop of water. The water will stay exactly where it is. (Try the same thing with a piece of iron or steel, and the iron or steel is attracted to the magnet.) Anyway, what causes the tides to go in and out? Are you suggesting that the earth's magnetic field gets switched on and off? If so, why do tide times vary? High tide today in Torquay is at 0955. Just along the coast at Plymouth, the next high tide is at 0924.

Apple Sky said:
So which mountain did Satan take Jesus, to show him all the Kingdoms of the world ?

We are not told. All the bible tells us is that the devil took Him to an exceeding high mountain.

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