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If there was anything against Trump in the Epstein files, it would have been leaked

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we know he's walked in on the dressing rooms of at least a couple of different beauty pageants he ran
And the contestants who were naked in those rooms were adolescent girls. He bragged about getting away with it. Being found by a court to have committed sexual assault, repeatedly committing adultery, once with a porn star, and creeping on underage girls doesn't necessarily mean he's a pedophile.

But lots of red flags going up.
 
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Didn’t they redact all things Trump in the files anyway?
That's the only way you'll ever see them. But redaction can sometimes be forensically detected.
 
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Are we honestly supposed to believe that Trump did not know his best friend was sex trafficking? Was he that clueless? That naïve,? That stupid?
"I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy," Trump told the magazine. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it -- Jeffrey enjoys his social life."
 
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He usually has some sort of plan going. So hard to say if he's really outraged or just playing along to achieve a particular outcome.

Well let's hope so, cause that will destroy him for sure! :pray:
No, it won't. Because Trump supporters will still defend him.
 
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You really have swallowed the administration's talking points. The distraction is now the main event?

ETA: Wait, wait, I just realized that was sarcasm. Sorry! :help:
I love this - Poe's law at work!
I wasn't sure for a moment - but then his last few lines took it firmly into sarcasm - at least for me.
 
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"I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy," Trump told the magazine. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it -- Jeffrey enjoys his social life."
AND we should note this quote comes from 2 years AFTER he is now claiming he cut ties with Epstein for 'stealing' his young ladies
 
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Hi all,
as much as I disagree with almost everything about Trump with every fibre of my being, I personally doubt there could be anything devastating against him in the Epstein files simply because I'm sceptical about conspiracy theories - and feel human beings are too prone to leaking something THAT big!

Mind you - decades ago I was a Department of Community Services officer in the NSW government. I can tell you with some authority that sick, powerful men in a society do cluster together and form paedophile conspiracies. They form networks to enable their sick addictions.

Leaks like this can be kept quite by the same logic with which NATO have not nuked Russia - it's Mutually Assured Destruction. I don't have details on me, but have read departmental training material on various local cabals in NSW back in the day. The only stuff more disturbing? When this gets combined with "Ritual Abuse" - when it gets into Satanic stuff. Even us DOCS officers were not to attempt investigating THAT stuff - we would tell our managers who would escalate it to a special unit. (I like to think of them as a child welfare version of Mulder and Scully! Fortunately I never had a case like that. But the curiosity of this old X-Files fan does sometimes make me wish I knew more about that special unit. From a distance. I don't even know the unit's name!)

The thing that makes me sceptical about a cabal in Federal Administrations - especially under Trump - is the sheer scale - and the venomous energy of those he burns! Think about the vast number of public servants he has yelled "You're fired!" at like he's the star of his own reality TV show. I guess he still is? Unfortunately for us, it's called "The News!"

If any of the more bitter ex-staffers knew anything - surely it would have been leaked by now?

HOWEVER - having said all that - Trump is not helping himself!


QUIZ TIME: Trump has explained away the Epstein files by claiming:-
A: They're one of America's largest conspiracies - written by Obama and Hilary Clinton and Democrats and "Losers and Criminals of the Biden Administration",

B: Then tried to blame the Democrats for NOT releasing the files THEY created!?,

C: In doing so contradicted US Attorney General Pam Bondi who says there ARE NO Epstein files (even though she had them on her desk in February),

D: Anyone who asks about Epstein all these years later is a bad person. (Even though he still can't stop lying and crying about the 2020 election 'being stolen' and a thousand other petty grievances he has with anyone ever who has ever opposed him or his policies.)

E: Said of his own MAGA base asking these questions - "Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats work, don’t even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don’t want their support anymore!"

F: ALL OF THE ABOVE!
30 seconds thinking time...
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...
...
ANSWER:
The correct answer is E - all of the above!

Well done! You have demonstrated you have a grip on logical inconsistencies and self-contradiction. Just as his MAGA base are starting to discover!

This was his first ever "Truth Social" post to get MORE COMMENTS than likes - indicating the MAGA base want to question him more than adulate him. This is a new low with his OWN base - and now he is turning on his own base as 'weaklings'. Interesting times.

Full coverage here on Australia's ABC

There's conspiracy theories and then there's conspiracy theories. The idea that Trump is hiding something by refusing to release the list of Epstein's contacts and associates isn't exactly on par with believing in a shadowly cabal of lizard people running the world, in terms of plausibility. Epstein had an extensive network and drew alot of people in through his associations with ostensibly high-minded philanthropy as a cover for his crimes.
 
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There's conspiracy theories and then there's conspiracy theories. The idea that Trump is hiding something by refusing to release the list of Epstein's contacts and associates isn't exactly on par with believing in a shadowly cabal of lizard people running the world, in terms of plausibility. Epstein had an extensive network and drew alot of people in through his associations with ostensibly high-minded philanthropy as a cover for his crimes.
I agree! See my post Area 51 and the Epstein files where I try to explore the sheer passion of some in the QANON MAGA world - and the serious and valid concerns of the more ordinary citizen.
 
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AND we should note this quote comes from 2 years AFTER he is now claiming he cut ties with Epstein for 'stealing' his young ladies
The break was reportedly over a property, not Epstein poaching "his" females.
 
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At first Trump wanted to disclose the files. Later he recanted. That would suggest that he's protecting someone and or something else other than himself.
Did he though - or did he just say he was going to? He has NPD. Lying is compulsory. He went on about the Birther Conspiracy - how legit was that?

He doesn't care about his citizens. He sees you all as marks. This is all the art of the deal - and you are all his marks. So far he's got away with it.
 
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Hi all,
as much as I disagree with almost everything about Trump with every fibre of my being, I personally doubt there could be anything devastating against him in the Epstein files simply because I'm sceptical about conspiracy theories - and feel human beings are too prone to leaking something THAT big!

Mind you - decades ago I was a Department of Community Services officer in the NSW government. I can tell you with some authority that sick, powerful men in a society do cluster together and form paedophile conspiracies. They form networks to enable their sick addictions.

Leaks like this can be kept quite by the same logic with which NATO have not nuked Russia - it's Mutually Assured Destruction. I don't have details on me, but have read departmental training material on various local cabals in NSW back in the day. The only stuff more disturbing? When this gets combined with "Ritual Abuse" - when it gets into Satanic stuff. Even us DOCS officers were not to attempt investigating THAT stuff - we would tell our managers who would escalate it to a special unit. (I like to think of them as a child welfare version of Mulder and Scully! Fortunately I never had a case like that. But the curiosity of this old X-Files fan does sometimes make me wish I knew more about that special unit. From a distance. I don't even know the unit's name!)

The thing that makes me sceptical about a cabal in Federal Administrations - especially under Trump - is the sheer scale - and the venomous energy of those he burns! Think about the vast number of public servants he has yelled "You're fired!" at like he's the star of his own reality TV show. I guess he still is? Unfortunately for us, it's called "The News!"

If any of the more bitter ex-staffers knew anything - surely it would have been leaked by now?

HOWEVER - having said all that - Trump is not helping himself!


QUIZ TIME: Trump has explained away the Epstein files by claiming:-
A: They're one of America's largest conspiracies - written by Obama and Hilary Clinton and Democrats and "Losers and Criminals of the Biden Administration",

B: Then tried to blame the Democrats for NOT releasing the files THEY created!?,

C: In doing so contradicted US Attorney General Pam Bondi who says there ARE NO Epstein files (even though she had them on her desk in February),

D: Anyone who asks about Epstein all these years later is a bad person. (Even though he still can't stop lying and crying about the 2020 election 'being stolen' and a thousand other petty grievances he has with anyone ever who has ever opposed him or his policies.)

E: Said of his own MAGA base asking these questions - "Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats work, don’t even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don’t want their support anymore!"

F: ALL OF THE ABOVE!
30 seconds thinking time...
...
...
...
...
ANSWER:
The correct answer is E - all of the above!

Well done! You have demonstrated you have a grip on logical inconsistencies and self-contradiction. Just as his MAGA base are starting to discover!

This was his first ever "Truth Social" post to get MORE COMMENTS than likes - indicating the MAGA base want to question him more than adulate him. This is a new low with his OWN base - and now he is turning on his own base as 'weaklings'. Interesting times.

Full coverage here on Australia's ABC
i totally agree with you that if there had been something really good in the Epstein Files against Mr. Donald J. Trump that yes, those files would have been leaked. President Obama was an exceptionally convincing speaker and he would have gotten that done years ago if the information that he wanted to be there, had been there.
 
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i totally agree with you that if there had been something really good in the Epstein Files against Mr. Donald J. Trump that yes, those files would have been leaked. President Obama was an exceptionally convincing speaker and he would have gotten that done years ago if the information that he wanted to be there, had been there.
Thing is, Epstein was arrested on Trump's watch. So the information wasn't available to Obama. Apparently not available until the present administration, if we can believe Trump's AG.
 
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