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Parents calling me to severely reduce my church giving

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I am a single (not married) adult man with no debt. I live with my parents and have been saving money until I can afford a house. I have a full time job. I have been paying my parents an agreed-upon monthly rent. I have been giving ~7% of my salary to my local church. Not too long ago, my father accidentally found out how much I am giving to the church and instantly became very upset with me, saying I've been giving far too much and that I need to severely reduce it. My parents are professing Christians but it is doubtful that they are truly born again.

I am stuck in a difficult spot now. I want to honor my parents, but I feel my father is asking me to minimize my giving to the Lord. He feels like I am throwing money away needlessly. He says $50/month is plenty to give to the church (as opposed to what I've been giving). I feel that this is my money that I've earned in my job and that I can use it however I wish. I feel that if I give in to my earthly father's demands, I would be doing it because of a fear of man. So I have not backed down.

I tried to respectfully explain why I give what I give, and I told my dad I'd like to continue in this way. We agreed to disagree, basically. But he has threatened to increase my rent as a sort of punishment. I just am so puzzled as to why giving to the church would bring such conflict within a home of professing Christians. My dad is still clearly very upset with me. I don't know what to do but pray and ask for guidance.

What do you all think? Have I handled things rightly? Should I give in to my dad's demands? Thanks for your thoughts.
 

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I am a single (not married) adult man with no debt. I live with my parents and have been saving money until I can afford a house. I have a full time job. I have been paying my parents an agreed-upon monthly rent. I have been giving ~7% of my salary to my local church. Not too long ago, my father accidentally found out how much I am giving to the church and instantly became very upset with me, saying I've been giving far too much and that I need to severely reduce it. My parents are professing Christians but it is doubtful that they are truly born again.

I am stuck in a difficult spot now. I want to honor my parents, but I feel my father is asking me to minimize my giving to the Lord. He feels like I am throwing money away needlessly. He says $50/month is plenty to give to the church (as opposed to what I've been giving). I feel that this is my money that I've earned in my job and that I can use it however I wish. I feel that if I give in to my earthly father's demands, I would be doing it because of a fear of man. So I have not backed down.

I tried to respectfully explain why I give what I give, and I told my dad I'd like to continue in this way. We agreed to disagree, basically. But he has threatened to increase my rent as a sort of punishment. I just am so puzzled as to why giving to the church would bring such conflict within a home of professing Christians. My dad is still clearly very upset with me. I don't know what to do but pray and ask for guidance.

What do you all think? Have I handled things rightly? Should I give in to my dad's demands? Thanks for your thoughts.
Do your parents disapprove of the particular church you are giving the money to?
 
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You are a grown-up. Grown-ups make independent grown-up decisions. I think it is yours to decide how you want to use your money. I am curious if your dad is anxious for you to get out from under his roof more quickly, and sees reducing your giving as a means to hasten that.
 
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You are a grown-up. Grown-ups make independent grown-up decisions. I think it is yours to decide how you want to use your money. I am curious if your dad is anxious for you to get out from under his roof more quickly, and sees reducing your giving as a means to hasten that.
I think you are right. He wants me to be successful, and he is not a believer (as he claims to be) and does not see the value of giving back to God (except very minimally). He loves me and genuinely thinks this sort of giving is going to harm me financially.
 
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How’s the savings going? It costs a lot to buy a house. How old are you? He might have to co-sign for you.……….
I'm still saving most of what I make. I pay rent, pay for my 7% "tithe", and then I have well over 50% of my income to put into savings.
 
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Living with your parents as an adult is a privilege not a right. They’ve done as expected and now you’re adult. You’ve admitted you’re staying with them to save for a house and it’s probable your expenses are significantly less than they’d be if you lived on your own. Allowing you to do so is a courtesy. It’s their way of helping you to reach your goal.

This is where the gray comes in. The only reason you’re having this discussion is because you’re under their roof. You’ll never have total autonomy in someone else’s home. Parents or not. There has to be a willingness to compromise. You can modify your tithe and place that portion in a separate savings account earmarked for offerings at a later time and the issue would be resolved.

It’s more important to avoid strife and maintain a good relationship with your parents. You’re not robbing the Lord. Setting the portion aside may allow you to do something greater at a later date or provide assistance for those in need. Setup the account and dedicate it to the Lord in prayer and ask Him to bless it. Make peace with your parents and thank them for their support. There’s many who don’t have the same and they’re struggling financially.

My daughter lives at home as well and we’ve chosen to purchase land instead. I’ll bear the bulk of the expense and she’ll be able to marry and raise a family in a comfortable environment with her loved ones. She won’t need daycare and can homeschool too. It’s a blessing for both but her children are the biggest winners. They’ll have a life that few experience. Most families are spread apart but they’ll see us everyday. I wouldn’t have it otherwise and the expense is worth it. She’ll have a home and her children can build on the land as well.

There are moments when I mention her spending or provide counsel financially and there’s no pushback. I worked in the industry for a living and my suggestions are for her betterment. I’ve done a lot to help her get ahead in life and continue to do so. My sacrifices compel her duty. Not because I demand it. She offers it out of love and gratitude. There was a time she didn’t know what she had completely until she met others and heard their stories. Then she understood.

Be thankful for your parents and honor them while you’re there. It makes a difference for all involved.

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I am a single (not married) adult man with no debt. I live with my parents and have been saving money until I can afford a house. I have a full time job. I have been paying my parents an agreed-upon monthly rent. I have been giving ~7% of my salary to my local church. Not too long ago, my father accidentally found out how much I am giving to the church and instantly became very upset with me, saying I've been giving far too much and that I need to severely reduce it. My parents are professing Christians but it is doubtful that they are truly born again.

I am stuck in a difficult spot now. I want to honor my parents, but I feel my father is asking me to minimize my giving to the Lord. He feels like I am throwing money away needlessly. He says $50/month is plenty to give to the church (as opposed to what I've been giving). I feel that this is my money that I've earned in my job and that I can use it however I wish. I feel that if I give in to my earthly father's demands, I would be doing it because of a fear of man. So I have not backed down.

I tried to respectfully explain why I give what I give, and I told my dad I'd like to continue in this way. We agreed to disagree, basically. But he has threatened to increase my rent as a sort of punishment. I just am so puzzled as to why giving to the church would bring such conflict within a home of professing Christians. My dad is still clearly very upset with me. I don't know what to do but pray and ask for guidance.

What do you all think? Have I handled things rightly? Should I give in to my dad's demands? Thanks for your thoughts.
I really think it has nothing to do with the amount you are giving to your congregation but more to do with the simple fact that you still live at home as an adult and your parents are helping you out while you " save" to move out. This means every available dollar so it can be expedited. I suspect your father feels like you are taking advantage of him. This is why he wants to raise your rent. I would suggest you apologize for this shortsightedness and agree that $50 is enough. Personal obligations are always taken into account first. Can't give your car payment or your rent to the congregation so it is obvious that every extra dollar should be saved in order to meet your commitment of moving out.
Sorry for being so candid!
Be blessed
 
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If you are living at home, you are benefiting financially by not having to pay rent or meals. Part of the reason you have extra money is because of their subsidy. You might reduce the amount you give to the church and give some through other means such as other ministries like;


There are plenty around. If you cut what you give to the church in half and then give half of the savings to another ministry, your net gain would be 25% for your house savings fund. You might float something like that past your parents and see if you can negotiate something agreeable.
 
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I didn't feel comfortable giving to church while still receiving financial help from parents. I thought it was robbing Peter to pay Paul. I was convicted that I was hurting my parents doing it. I thought the time would come when I myself could give, & it did come.

It sounds like it's the amount you're giving they don't like. Scale back on the amount & the time will come when you can give in abundance. They want to see yourself do well & there's nothing wrong w/ that.

Or scale back on other things you may be wasting your $$ on & let your parents know that.

It's great that you want to give to church :)
 
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I think you are right. He wants me to be successful, and he is not a believer (as he claims to be) and does not see the value of giving back to God (except very minimally). He loves me and genuinely thinks this sort of giving is going to harm me financially.
27 is pretty old to still be living at home so I think your parents want you out of the house and on your own asap. Not because they don't love you, but because that's in your own best interest. I wouldn't be surprised in the rent you're paying is being saved up by them to go towards you getting your own home. That's pure speculation on my part of course.
 
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@Trayalc

I'm sorry this is happening to you. Let me ask first - does God Himself approve of what you give to the church? Is this church acceptable in God's eyes? If so, there's not a problem. The Bible tells us to obey God first over other humans.

From what you have said, your parents sound like money lovers instead of lovers of God. Your words seem to reflect this attitude.

I am in the same situation where I can't afford a house. Everything is expensive. The economy is a disaster. Many bad things are happening.

I have prayed for you and hope everything is going good for you.
 
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I am a single (not married) adult man with no debt. I live with my parents and have been saving money until I can afford a house. I have a full time job. I have been paying my parents an agreed-upon monthly rent. I have been giving ~7% of my salary to my local church. Not too long ago, my father accidentally found out how much I am giving to the church and instantly became very upset with me, saying I've been giving far too much and that I need to severely reduce it. My parents are professing Christians but it is doubtful that they are truly born again.

I am stuck in a difficult spot now. I want to honor my parents, but I feel my father is asking me to minimize my giving to the Lord. He feels like I am throwing money away needlessly. He says $50/month is plenty to give to the church (as opposed to what I've been giving). I feel that this is my money that I've earned in my job and that I can use it however I wish. I feel that if I give in to my earthly father's demands, I would be doing it because of a fear of man. So I have not backed down.

I tried to respectfully explain why I give what I give, and I told my dad I'd like to continue in this way. We agreed to disagree, basically. But he has threatened to increase my rent as a sort of punishment. I just am so puzzled as to why giving to the church would bring such conflict within a home of professing Christians. My dad is still clearly very upset with me. I don't know what to do but pray and ask for guidance.

What do you all think? Have I handled things rightly? Should I give in to my dad's demands? Thanks for your thoughts.
You are an adult you decide over your own money it is a case of your own heart that is private. you give of your heart not of having to. That is how God wants us to give. Are you able to move out soon. Probably seems like a good idea. Maybe give less save up to move faster. Then you can continue give more. Unless over time. Maybe reduce to move out fast is a middle ground
 
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I am a single (not married) adult man with no debt. I live with my parents and have been saving money until I can afford a house. I have a full time job. I have been paying my parents an agreed-upon monthly rent. I have been giving ~7% of my salary to my local church. Not too long ago, my father accidentally found out how much I am giving to the church and instantly became very upset with me, saying I've been giving far too much and that I need to severely reduce it. My parents are professing Christians but it is doubtful that they are truly born again.

I am stuck in a difficult spot now. I want to honor my parents, but I feel my father is asking me to minimize my giving to the Lord. He feels like I am throwing money away needlessly. He says $50/month is plenty to give to the church (as opposed to what I've been giving). I feel that this is my money that I've earned in my job and that I can use it however I wish. I feel that if I give in to my earthly father's demands, I would be doing it because of a fear of man. So I have not backed down.

I tried to respectfully explain why I give what I give, and I told my dad I'd like to continue in this way. We agreed to disagree, basically. But he has threatened to increase my rent as a sort of punishment. I just am so puzzled as to why giving to the church would bring such conflict within a home of professing Christians. My dad is still clearly very upset with me. I don't know what to do but pray and ask for guidance.

What do you all think? Have I handled things rightly? Should I give in to my dad's demands? Thanks for your thoughts.

I am very familiar with this conflicted situation with family, not the same situation but professing Christians seeming to have less concern about things felt important to me.

While I disagree with your earthly father, I will say this and say it with confidence from experience in tight situations akin to this one. God requires us to give unto Caesar that which belongs to Caesar and unto God that which belongs to God. He also tells us to serve our masters (boss, landlords, etc) as unto the Lord to show the love of Christ and win them through God's love in us (Ephesians 6:7).

He also has a commandment to honor our father and mother, and I learned in my later years (having a personal issue with negligent and incompetent authorities..) that He never stipulated "if they are good and right." We are to honor imperfect authority.

Now, like I said I think your earthly father is out of place... (I feel many times many in my family are wrong about many things) but blessed are the peacemakers (Mathew 5:9) and follow the commandment to honor your earthly father (even if he is wrong) and I think your Heavenly Father will work out the rest.

If you are staying under his roof he is the authority above you, even if paying rent, and in my opinion if I was in the situation I would do what my earthly father asked me and pray to my Heavenly Father about it because I believe He would make a way to change things if I needed to give (or simply wanted to give) more to the Church.

I understand your heart to give back to God, and I think the good Lord sees your heart very clearly, and I don't think He will count you doing what you are asked as "wrong" but "right." Typically, these "pressure" type situations arise and we feel stuck, but honoring our parents (even very, very imperfect parents) is honoring God.

I felt moved to share, but I would PUSH. Pray Until Something Happens. Prayer always works and never fails. (Mark 9:29)
 
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I would start looking for rooms for rent in your area, and price that rent against the rent that you are paying your parents. Basically, you are renting a room from your parents anyway. Go to the properties and talk with the landlords, and see if you can find one who is a believer in Christ (for real). Talk to people at your local church and see if any of them have a room for rent, or know a Christian who does. Make sure that they will let you use their kitchen and mailbox on their property - that should come included with the room.

If the market price for a room is lower than what you are paying your parents and you can find a supportive Christian landlord, move out of there as quickly as you can. Take everything that you want to see again. They are unbelievers and will not support where God is leading you, and there will be more of these petty disputes. You don't want items that are valuable or useful to you in their hands.

2 Corinthians 6:14 said:
Do not be mismatched with unbelievers; for what do righteousness and lawlessness share together, or what does light have in common with darkness?

(This verse is commonly applied to marriage, but this frequently applies to business arrangements as well like landlord/tenant. Your obedience to this Scripture is more important than your giving to your church.)

If the market price for a room for rent is more than what you are paying your parents, reduce your church giving, and put it toward the house fund. In this case, you will need to do another set of math. Take the prices for homes in your area, and the number that you currently have in your house savings account. Do the math with that number as a down payment and calculate the mortgage payment for each options that appeal to you. Next, add up the total cost of ownership for each of those options. That would include property taxes, repair estimates, insurance, and utilities. (You may also want to take a homeowner training course, psst, they have those. Learn what you're getting yourself into.)

Next, increase your down payment until the total monthly cost of ownership of your intended house is lower than the rent you are paying your parents. If that is too high no matter what, do another calculation where you increase your down payment until the mortgage payment is less than what you are paying your parents. At that point, you might as well put that money into your house instead of losing it to Mom and Dad.

Next, calculate your total current savings rate per month, subtract your current amount of money in the bank, and, based on your current rate of saving, calculate the number of months that it will take for you to get your house money. Then give yourself at least 6 months for house hunting time, since you're employed.

Write it down as a formal statement: I am saving for a house. I am earning X income per month and I am saving Y. At my current rate of saving, it will take me Z months (or years) to earn the money for the house. I expect to move out of this house in A months/ years.

Then take it your parents and tell them. Just rip the Band-Aid off. You'll find out what their real intentions are soon enough. If they are merely interested in your success, you'll get a smile and a pat on the back for being financially responsible. Maybe you'll even get your rent money back. If there is some negative spiritual interest behind this, you just told them that you're not going to put up with it. Your relationship with God is important to you. The statement will bring the truth to the surface, and you'll know what's really behind this.

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1. If Y number is proportionately low and Z is really high (like 10 years) you probably will need to evaluate your savings rate, whether it can be increased by cutting out frivolous purchases or looking for cheaper or even free options like OfferUp or thrift stores. You may also want to evaluate your choice of house, can you find a less expensive one? Maybe the house savings idea is not a good one, and you just need to rent an apartment and get out of there. Maybe you need to look for an opportunity to increase your income.

God may want you to do what your parents do not want you to do. If you delay following God's lead, you will just suffer. Frankly, it's just painful anyway when God leads you to something that your parents don't approve of, but if it's your parents versus God, God always wins. Look for God's provision and His guidance on how He wants you to move forward. He has brought this problem into your life for a reason, and His solution to it may not be what you want.

At this point, I don't want you to be frightened, but I do want you to get more clarity on your situation and understand how bad it truly is. One of my friends got thrown out of his unbeliever parents house onto the street and his mom got him fired from his job through repeated slanderous phone calls to his workplace. He's still living out of his car. And your parents, who are unbelievers, have already expressed hostility to your Christian faith and threatened to increase your rent. I don't want you to end up in his situation. You're far better off renting and giving up the house forever than ending up like him, so evaluate how bad your situation truly is and pray for wisdom and discernment as to what to do. And while you're at it, make sure your car is paid off, you have the clear title to it, and that you don't have a loan on it before you do anything having to do with the house, because that could turn your situation into a nightmare if you get kicked out unexpectedly.

Bottom line: Get out of there. But do it intelligently.
 
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