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A whites-only community in Arkansas looking to start a franchise in Missouri

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Okay. So why can't we just let them be racist, if that's how they want to be?

Is it okay to allow some people to live amongst their own preferred people, as long as it's within the law? And not disparage them for it?

Not disparage a racist? Nor gonna lie, I can't do that.

It's strange to me how ambivalent a person can be to hamas children and protective of American racists.
 
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You'll recall the conservative reaction to people who wanted "safe spaces".



So protective of racists

But not racist.

Maybe the people signing into these communities didn't have any reactions to "safe spaces". Maybe they're not even involved in politics.

...Maybe they just want something, and it's their own personal choice for reasons that are their own.
 
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So a person that has been ran down by a particular race of people most of their life doesn’t have the right to be prejudice against said race?
Correct. Because that is racism.
 
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I'm so deeply upset over a 160 acre commune of about 40 kooks way out in the sticks. It's keeping me up at night and ruining my appetite.

I'd be pretty bothered if those kooks wanted me dead or driven away from my home and they have a proven track record.

I recently had an encounter with a kooky guy in the parking lot of my place of work while I was on my lunch break who told me that "people like you" aren't welcome in town. He was white, I was white, so I'm not entirely sure what he meant by speaking of "people like you" but it was weird and unsettling. That was one random guy in a parking lot.

Are we supposed to pretend that a commune of white supremacists doesn't constitute a very real danger to people? Because, even if I'm unlikely to be the target of their hate given my rather unmelenated complexion, plenty of people are. And, oh, I don't know, perhaps I have this crazy idea that I should care more than just about myself, but also about my neighbors. I'm pretty sure I got that idea from somewhere.

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Are we supposed to pretend that a commune of white supremacists doesn't constitute a very real danger to people?
This is what I find baffling. Who would want white supremacists to gain a foot hold in the area; allowed to come and go but maintaining their own closed community? Who knows what they would be up to? It's be like a community of paedophiles: sure they might not be breaking the law at the moment but it's only a matter of time.

Both groups pose a danger to larger society and shouldn't be allowed to link up to form communities.
 
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I'd be pretty bothered if those kooks wanted me dead or driven away from my home and they have a proven track record.

I recently had an encounter with a kooky guy in the parking lot of my place of work while I was on my lunch break who told me that "people like you" aren't welcome in town. He was white, I was white, so I'm not entirely sure what he meant by speaking of "people like you" but it was weird and unsettling. That was one random guy in a parking lot.

Are we supposed to pretend that a commune of white supremacists doesn't constitute a very real danger to people? Because, even if I'm unlikely to be the target of their hate given my rather unmelenated complexion, plenty of people are. And, oh, I don't know, perhaps I have this crazy idea that I should care more than just about myself, but also about my neighbors. I'm pretty sure I got that idea from somewhere.

-CryptoLutheran
I'm not getting how a group of racists sequesting themselves to a remote area is a danger to society. They don't have any neighbors, that's the whole idea of what they're doing. As for Jesus He said "But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you" Matthew 5:44. He doesn't say condemn them, He says love them and pray for them. Isn’t it rather hypocritical to hate them because they hate others? Is it supposed to be fight hate with hate like fight fire with fire? Where does Jesus instruct that? I think anyone actually riled up over 40 people living out in the middle of nowhere, has issues that need to be addressed. But really it's mostly just the usual virtue signaling routine.
 
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This is what I find baffling. Who would want white supremacists to gain a foot hold in the area; allowed to come and go but maintaining their own closed community? Who knows what they would be up to? It's be like a community of paedophiles: sure they might not be breaking the law at the moment but it's only a matter of time.

Both groups pose a danger to larger society and shouldn't be allowed to link up to form communities.

And there are different questions. Whether they have the right to do something or think something is a very different question to how I feel about it, or whether I think it is right on a moral or social level.

If a guy moves in next door has a "Dixie" flag, well, I'll think that's pretty silly (I'll never understand waving a treasonous flag that is an explicit symbol of hate around, but whatever). If a guy moves in next door and has a swastika tattoo proudly inked on his arm, I'm not going to like it. If that same guy hoards guns, I'm probably going to feel a little weird living in the same neighborhood. Even if the guy is friendly toward me because hey, we both sunburn easily.

Now, 40 of them all sharing a compound? Uhhhhhh. No thank you. Not in my city, not in my county, not in my state. Go find a remote island somewhere, and never leave. Okay and thank you.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Not disparage a racist? Nor gonna lie, I can't do that.

It's strange to me how ambivalent a person can be to hamas children and protective of American racists.
What can people do if Hamas kills it's children? Certainly they kill others as well, we can stop that. Stopping Hamas is the best we can do. It is how Hamas conducts war.
 
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I'm not getting how a group of racists sequesting themselves to a remote area is a danger to society. They don't have any neighbors, that's the whole idea of what they're doing. As for Jesus He said "But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you" Matthew 5:44. He doesn't say condemn them, He says love them and pray for them. Isn’t it rather hypocritical to hate them because they hate others? Is it supposed to be fight hate with hate like fight fire with fire? Where does Jesus instruct that? I think anyone getting riled up over 40 people living out in the middle of nowhere, has issues that need to be addressed. But really it's mostly just the usual virtue signaling routine.
Gotta call them racist, and go after them... Who is the real danger here?
 
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I'm not getting how a group of racists sequesting themselves to a remote area is a danger to society. They don't have any neighbors, that's the whole idea of what they're doing. As for Jesus He said "But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you" Matthew 5:44. He doesn't say condemn them, He says love them and pray for them. Isn’t it rather hypocritical to hate them because they hate others? Is it supposed to be fight hate with hate like fight fire with fire? Where does Jesus instruct that? I think anyone getting riled up over 40 people living out in the middle of nowhere, has issues that need to be addressed. But really it's mostly just the usual virtue signaling routine.

Weird that you've gotten hate out of what I'm saying.

I don't have to hate racists to not want racists around.

"Say to them, 'As I live, declares the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?'" - Ezekiel 33:11

I'd much rather racists stop being racists. But as long as they are foaming at the mouth wanting to see the extermination of my neighbors, then they are a clear and present danger to the community. That's not hate, that's called reasonable trepidation.

If I was Jewish and a group of Nazis set up a compound 20 miles out of town, I would have every reason in the world to not like it. Now, I'm not Jewish, but I care about my Jewish neighbors.

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