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Should Christians Condemn People?

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Are you familiar with the Hell that Jesus descended into and consequently conquered death and the Devil? That is the one I am referring to. I don't know what your last question means. Are you implying that demons and Satan do not reside in Hell?
Please, study it more. I would just repeat myself. You must first realize what hell are you even talking about, you are mixing everything together.
 
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A close Christian friend abandoned me, without so much as 1 witness, because I said something about a verse that I don't think he and many others do not understand. He was very offended.
Refused ever again to discuss God with him.
 
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My comment to him was that the verse "Therefore, a man shall leave his father and mother and cleave unto his wife and the 2 shall become one flesh".
Clearly, in my opinion, referring to sexual intercourse.
"Cleaving" in the vast majority of cases does not refer to holding onto.

I simply pointed out that and he turned on me with a disgusted look on his face.
 
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What is the message Christians should send?
I think this should answer that question.

“Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.””
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28‬:‭19‬-‭20‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬
 
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"If I see you murder someone I can draw a logical conclusion."

So your logical conclusion is that murderers can't be saved. Really? God refuses to forgive murderers? What is the only unforgivable sin? If someone commits murder, is it possible to repent of that sin? But it'd be in vain because that person already sealed their fate, right?
I feel like the discussion is bouncing back & forth between different sinful situations. Saying that that someone who just murdered someone isn’t saved and saying that murderers can’t be saved are not the same thing. One is referring to their current state and the other is referring to their potential state.
 
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I feel like the discussion is bouncing back & forth between different sinful situations. Saying that that someone who just murdered someone isn’t saved and saying that murderers can’t be saved are not the same thing. One is referring to their current state and the other is referring to their potential state.
I agree from our temporal point of view, but from God's eternal point of view, potential is already realized.
 
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Should Christians condemn people to Hell?

After answering, explain why
I think this is different for Christians and non Christians. For Christians I think theres two aspects. There is the gospel but also following the teachings. They should go hand in hand. But there is an identifiable way of living (fruits of the spirit) we can tell.

The teachings tell us to gently rebuke and teach another Christian if they have sinned. But also to fogive them.

But then there is the church itself. The body of Christians. This is where the overseers are the guides and protectors over the church and the teachings from the wolves. Christ warned about the wolves not from sinners outside the church but within.

So in this sense and as Paul did in commanding members follow the teachings otherwise be cursed. Especially of promoting false teachings and ideologies or encouraging sin.

Then outside the church is different. This is where the gospel comes in. Being evangelists for Christ. I like the idea of messenger as it is the Good News to the world. THis is Good News not bad news about going to hell lol. Make people run for the hills.

Though I think the culture has changed where even saying repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand. Or repentence is part of the gospel people get defensive. In fact just saying the gospel and Good News is becoming offensive in some places.

But this is the thing. In the early church which the gospel was far more offensive under Nero who persecuted the Christians and executed some of the disciples like Peter and Paul.

They did not care. They still spoke the gospel. I mean Paul got assaulted about 10 times and thrown in jail. But he spoke the same truth even when the enviornment was hostile to it. It was this that the world seen that consistent truth even in the face of death that brought the Gentiles to God.
 
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