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Trump says he wants to deport ‘the worst of the worst,’ but ICE data shows 72% of people detained have no criminal convictions

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58 thousand out of an estimated 11 million unauthorized immigrants, means 0.53% of them have been detained. As for the usual anonymous informants, that's 12 out of 8,500 assigned to Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO). Which is 0.14%.

So in summary, 0.53% of unauthorized immigrants have been detained. And 0.14% of ICE enforcement officers say they're worn out.
I think some nuance is required here. You appear to be implying that 12 out 8,500 claim to be worn out. That is not, I believe, what is going on. As I read the OP, we have been told that the 12 that were interviewed claim to be worn out. You appear to be implying that the other 8,488 are not. That is not a legitimate inference. In fact, if 12 out of 12 people interviewed are worn out, then there is every reason to believe that the majority of the 8,500 are also worn out.

To be fair to you, however, the text of OP is not precise as to how these 12 were chosen. And perhaps others were interviewed who are indeed happy in their jobs and this is not being reported.
 
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Now on one hand I'm hearing that not only are they going to deport all unauthorized immigrants
Trump has stated that as his goal.

Appearing on NBC's Meet the Press, Trump said his goal was to deport every undocumented immigrant in the country.

KRISTEN WELKER:

But is it your plan to deport everyone who is here illegally over the next four years?

PRESIDENT-ELECT DONALD TRUMP:

Well, I think you have to do it, and it’s a hard — it’s a very tough thing to do. It’s — but you have to have, you know, you have rules, regulations, laws. They came in illegally.
 
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I think some nuance is required here. You appear to be implying that 12 out 8,500 claim to be worn out. That is not, I believe, what is going on. As I read the OP, we have been told that the 12 that were interviewed claim to be worn out. You appear to be implying that the other 8,488 are not. That is not a legitimate inference. In fact, if 12 out of 12 people interviewed are worn out, then there is every reason to believe that the majority of the 8,500 are also worn out.

To be fair to you, however, the text of OP is not precise as to how these 12 were chosen. And perhaps others were interviewed who are indeed happy in their jobs and this is not being reported.
Well that's the thing. He doesn't say how many he interviewed. I just know based on what I read that there's at least 8500 of them. And 12 say they're pooped. So what about the other 8488? 12 people isn't much to go by. And of course since they're anonymous there's no way to verify who said exactly what. It's not like there's 12 written statements that I know of. Also getting people to complain about their job is pretty easy in my experience.
 
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PRESIDENT-ELECT DONALD TRUMP:

...but you have to have, you know, you have rules, regulations, laws.
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-- A2SG, nothing more need be said.....
 

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What about the other 7 million unauthorized immigrants?
Wll I guess Trump is not stupid enough to think he can deport everyone. There is simply not enough resources or bed space for that.
 
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He promised to go after criminals, now those groups like the Floridian Cuban MAGA bloc are finding out far more than just criminals. But yes, it has always been about deporting the brown folks, criminals or not. Not complicated at least to me at all.


"Gallup polls show that only 35% of Americans approve of Trump’s immigration policy with 62% opposed. A new poll out from CBS News/ YouGov today shows that support for Trump’s deportations has dropped ten points from the start of his term, from 59% to 49%. Fifty-eight percent of Americans oppose the administration’s use of detention facilities. The numbers in a CNN/SSRS poll released today are even more negative for the administration: 59% of Americans oppose deporting undocumented immigrants without a criminal record while only 23% support such deportations, and 57% are opposed to building new detention facilities while only 26% support such a plan."


 
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Luis Leon, 82, lost his wallet which contained his green card issued in 1987 after receiving asylum from Chile post-torture. He went with his wife to an immigration office in Philadelphia for a replacement. From there, he was disappeared.


Until Saturday, the last time family had seen Leon was June 20, after he and his wife went to the Philadelphia office to replace Leon’s lost green card, Nataly said. As they waited in a second-floor room, Leon’s wife told family members, he was placed in handcuffs by two officers and escorted out.

She was left behind, spending 10 hours in a room until she was finally released to her granddaughter. No one from the government ever told the family why, or where, Leon was taken, Nataly said.

Leon told Nataly his phone was taken away and that when he demanded information, Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers — who addressed him and several other detainees on the bus as “Mario” — said Leon had no rights in the United States....

...According to Nataly, a Chilean government contact of Leon’s brother was able to reach an official here who told him Leon had been taken to Minnesota, then to Guatemala. It isn’t clear if that official was from ICE or another government agency. Leon fled Chile in 1987 to escape the dictatorial regime of Augusto Pinochet.

It’s also unclear whether Leon had a deportation hearing before he was sent to Guatemala, which has an agreement with the U.S. to accept deportees from other nations. Deportees typically arrive for processing at La Aurora Air Force Base in Guatemala City and are then sent to temporary shelters.

Nataly said she isn’t sure where her grandfather spent the time between his arrival and his hospitalization because her time with him has been limited.

He told her he tried to contact his family but, because he didn’t have his phone, couldn’t provide phone numbers.​
 
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Wll I guess Trump is not stupid enough to think he can deport everyone. There is simply not enough resources or bed space for that.
I guess that's why he want to rebuild Alcatraz.
 
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So in summary, 0.53% of unauthorized immigrants have been detained. And 0.14% of ICE enforcement officers say they're worn out.
Precisely . This is why Obama tasked immigration enforcement against those few illegal immigrants who had committed serious crimes. That takes a lot more know-how than putting on a mask and grabbing Hispanic-looking people off the street. But it actually makes American safer. Do you realize the economic impact of deporting all the people who are here illegally?

The following papers are organized from the broadest in their analyses to narrower analyses that looked at particular populations or types of impact:
• McKibbon (2024) estimated that deporting 7.5 million unauthorized immigrant workers would result in a long-run drop in U.S. GDP of 6.2 percent ($1.7 trillion at 2023 levels), a reduction in hours worked in the country by 3.6 percent, and three years of higher inflation—peaking at an increase in the inflation
rate of 3.1 percentage points. Deporting 1.3 million people was estimated to drop U.S. GDP by 1.1 percent ($300 billion at 2023 levels), hours worked by 0.6 percent, and trigger additional inflation peaking at a 0.5 percentage point increase.13
 
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