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For a start, DNA wasn't even discovered until the 20th century. I understand that DNA molecules are a thirty-thousandth of the diameter of a human hair.
But centaurs were mythological creatures - part man, part horse. You seem to be saying that people of Noah's day created living beings, and not just any living beings, but those which only appear in Greek myths. I hope you are not saying that the bible teaches such a thing.
lol can anyone prove any flood story and its origin. Its a case of looking at all the evidence and trying to deduce what was most likely. I think there are two basic facts. There were mega floods that make the local floods insignificant that humans experienced in the distant past.
humanoriginproject.com
www.ancient-origins.net
When I say global sized flood I don't mean it covered the entire earth. Only that it was big enough to cover large portions especially where humans lived in the NH which was virtually the world.
I think we do which is the large floods that hit that area another 6,000 or more years before the Sumerians.
I don't know I have seen some of the signatures and they sure look pretty big and sudden. It may well be that there were many mega floods but there were some that came suddenly as well. This also coincides with similar floods happening around Europe, the middle each and NA.
Yes but the North American cultures had their own flood myths from the flood events well before the Sumerians. So did the Sumerians. They all came from the ancient mega floods at the end of the last iceage.
Sorry I was lazy. Northern Hemisphere. You will see it also above lol.
Its logic really. If there was such a mega flood that wiped out cities on the coast pretty quickly then this would have been a topic often mentioned. Especially in that these ancient peoplles looked at disasters as from the gods. Earthquakes, cyclones anf floods are from the gods.
I thought this was also a time when many Megafauna died.
Yeah I am not saying an extinction event like the Dinos. But significant amounts of animals, mammals were lost and I would say people as well during these floods.
Basically I am saying for the Judeo Christian God that there is usually some event in human history that humans naturally attribute to the gods and that God uses this to reveal who He is to us. God is utilising the flood myth all cultures make to reveal Himself by using an already existing misplaced belief.
Actually I have been doing this for some time. The conclusion is the hypothesis from the research so far. But its not fixed and its open to change. Heck you can turn it upside down if you want lol. If that is what is needed to test the hypothesis.
The flood was a "type", representing the death and re-birth of baptism which would be later introduced by John the Baptist.
That's the point, Steve. You can't demonstrate anything with these flood myths. Not at all.
These "mega floods" are large compared to how far people can walk in a day, but do not affect large regions of the planet. The are just "mega local".
None of the mega floods are anywhere near Mesopotamia. You should stick to ones that could actually affect the stories you are trying to validate.
They may have preserved the locations of some submerged islands, but we don't know how many their ancestors used to know about, how many they forgot, and how many other claims are for things that aren't there. Further, "original names" is not a claim SA can support and they shouldn't have made it.Ancient Sea Rise Tale Told Accurately for 10,000 Years
Without using written languages, Australian tribes passed memories of life before, and during, post-glacial shoreline inundations through hundreds of generations as high-fidelity oral history. Some tribes can still point to islands that no longer exist—and provide their original names.
Ancient Sea Rise Tale Told Accurately for 10,000 Years
Aboriginal stories of lost islands match up with underwater finds in Australiawww.scientificamerican.com
I'm not addressing things from kook websites like that one.New geological evidence etched in the land itself is suggesting catastrophic events in early earth history that could be more than myth. It’s lesser known that the bible is one of the hundreds of prehistoric and global flood accounts. These stories are often dismissed as localized memories of small events. Today, the evidence is mounting for a global flood that caused sea levels to rise at the end of the last ice age.
North Africa, Australia, Siberia, Mongolia, parts of the Middle East, Much of South America as well as Northern Europe are among the places that show evidence of mega-scale flooding that occurred around the time the ice sheets over North America melted.
Early Earth History & The Great Flood
Flood stories exist in cultures all over the planet. Why is this so? Today evidence is mounting towards the great flood that occurred at the boundary of the Younger Dryas period. A massive amount of water was distributed from Ice-Caps due to the end of the last ice age. Did a flood of gigantic...
Or that one.With the archaeological discovery of Gobekli Tepe, a 12,000-year-old mega site in southeastern Turkey, as well as in 2002 with the discovery of a 10,000-year-old city found submerged under 130 feet of water off the coast of West India in the Gulf of Cambay.
In light of these latest findings, is it possible today to assume that a worldwide flood, roughly 10,000 years ago, may have been the one our ancestors labeled as the Great Flood?
Evidence of The Great Flood – Real or a Myth? Part II
The story of a “Great Flood” is a widespread account shared by many religions and cultures around the world, and dates back to our earliest recorded history.
But they don't cover large portions of the world, or even North America. The Missoula Floods are largely confined to a portion of one US state -- Washington.
What flood that "hit the area" (of the Sumerians) 6000 years before them? What flood? You've got a bunch of floods in other parts of the world that had zero impact on Mesopotamia. Name these "floods".
Nowhere near Sumeria. Try again.
All in Washington state from the Missoula floods. Closer to Beijing than Sumer.
LOL. Now you are just drawing lines on sand patterns in the desert and calling them flood paths. The very minimum needed is to understand the wind patterns for wind blown sands first. The Sahara dried up around 6000-8000 years ago (look up "green Sahara" as the post-glacial climate warmed up. There are actual river beds from that period, but they are not mega floods.
This needs to be demonstrated. You have not.
Not "all over North America". Only at margins of the ice sheets.
North America was not in contact with Sumeria.
OK
That's not "logic", it is wild speculation.
I took a brief look at it. Not sure what to make of it as academic culture studies are not written in a style I am familiar with. Perhaps I shall look closer later, but at least you have provided some evidence of similar sorts of floods as was your claim.
Oh, I thought you were talking about people being wiped out. These post are too long to follow. I have to open a copy of the post to which I am replying in another tab just to see the context of what you wrote.
Not interested in what AIs say about anything.
Megafauna disappeared throughout North America and Siberia, very little of either experienced a flood event.
Oh brother.
That's some weak sauce for a very ineffective method of "revelation". I think your god deserves better from you.
I considered it from within the context given in Genesis. Belief in the accuracy of that book is not needed to do that analysis.
I don't understand your question. Your post was in reply to me saying, "You seem to be saying that people of Noah's day created living beings, and not just any living beings, but those which only appear in Greek myths. I hope you are not saying that the bible teaches such a thing."
That may be what she meant, but if so, my question would be, "Where in the bible do we read of any angels, fallen or not, having the power to create?"
I thought that was what everyone was going on about. What is Noahs flood and what are the flood stories overall as to what they represent to humans and even reality itself ie there are two different realities where one has no God or gods and these stories are purely su[erstition and make believe.
We're talking about a story in a book about a flood. Whether there was an actual identifiable flood which gave the author the basis of the story, or whether he just based it on the general idea that big floods are catastrophies is an interesting question, but it has nothing to do with whether or not God exists or the atheist versus theist worldview or anything like that.
That's the point of them, is it not? We certainly don't read the Noah story to learn about hydrology.
What is it that we want to work out? I don't quite follow you. Which one what?
