The Hispanic Vote

Fantine · 2025-07-17T16:13:27-0500

Unbelievably, 48% of Hispanic voters supported Trump in the 2024 election.

Months later, only 35% approve of him. While I am sorry that this dawning of awareness did not happen earlier, I understand it completely.

Whether the Hispanic voter is an immigrant, a first-generation American, or possibly a second-generation American, I am sure that they realize exactly what life conditions they were fleeing, or how desperate they were.

Very few "waited in line." Most were grandfathered in under Reagan's amnesty. They themselves (or their parents) did exactly what many undocumented immigrants do today, and they were not punished.

And what about the Cubans? They know what it was like to be a refugee fleeing communism. I wonder what they think about Trump's lies about the Haitian refugees--"they're eating the dogs!" I wonder what they think about refugee status being cancelled--when the refugees have no home to return to?

I can empathize because my grandparents fled poverty in Ireland...but that was in the early 20th century. How must these immigrants (or first-generation) or refugees must feel--with the hunger, fear, and uncertainty embedded in their vestigial memories? They understand what a president born with a platinum spoon in his mouth doesn't. They know the truth. And that knowledge should forever disaqualify the people with ICE on their shirts and their leaders with ICE in their veins.

Vambram · 2025-07-17T16:44:05-0500

I don't care what country an illegal immigrant is from. If that immigrant is NOT here legally, then that immigrant does NOT have the right to stay in the USA. Follow the laws and obey our laws. It really is as simple as that. Meanwhile, illegal immigrants "jump the line" and get access to benefits and stuff ahead of people who immigrated here to America legally.

dogs4thewin · 2025-07-17T17:25:49-0500

Fantine said:
Unbelievably, 48% of Hispanic voters supported Trump in the 2024 election.

Months later, only 35% approve of him. While I am sorry that this dawning of awareness did not happen earlier, I understand it completely.

Whether the Hispanic voter is an immigrant, a first-generation American, or possibly a second-generation American, I am sure that they realize exactly what life conditions they were fleeing, or how desperate they were.

Very few "waited in line." Most were grandfathered in under Reagan's amnesty. They themselves (or their parents) did exactly what many undocumented immigrants do today, and they were not punished.

And what about the Cubans? They know what it was like to be a refugee fleeing communism. I wonder what they think about Trump's lies about the Haitian refugees--"they're eating the dogs!" I wonder what they think about refugee status being cancelled--when the refugees have no home to return to?

I can empathize because my grandparents fled poverty in Ireland...but that was in the early 20th century. How must these immigrants (or first-generation) or refugees must feel--with the hunger, fear, and uncertainty embedded in their vestigial memories? They understand what a president born with a platinum spoon in his mouth doesn't. They know the truth. And that knowledge should forever disaqualify the people with ICE on their shirts and their leaders with ICE in their veins.

or maybe they felt that it was unreasonable to deport people who ONLY committed the crime of being here, and thus supported getting the people out who were oterwise criminals and/or came over here in the pass few years when people were POURING over the border every single day.

Chesterton · 2025-07-17T17:31:01-0500

Fantine said:
Unbelievably, 48% of Hispanic voters supported Trump in the 2024 election.

What's unbelievable is that you chose the custom title Dona Quixote and can still make such an ignorantly racist OP about Hispanics.

public hermit · 2025-07-17T18:05:38-0500

Fantine said:
Unbelievably, 48% of Hispanic voters supported Trump in the 2024 election.

Months later, only 35% approve of him. While I am sorry that this dawning of awareness did not happen earlier, I understand it completely.

Whether the Hispanic voter is an immigrant, a first-generation American, or possibly a second-generation American, I am sure that they realize exactly what life conditions they were fleeing, or how desperate they were.

Very few "waited in line." Most were grandfathered in under Reagan's amnesty. They themselves (or their parents) did exactly what many undocumented immigrants do today, and they were not punished.

And what about the Cubans? They know what it was like to be a refugee fleeing communism. I wonder what they think about Trump's lies about the Haitian refugees--"they're eating the dogs!" I wonder what they think about refugee status being cancelled--when the refugees have no home to return to?

I can empathize because my grandparents fled poverty in Ireland...but that was in the early 20th century. How must these immigrants (or first-generation) or refugees must feel--with the hunger, fear, and uncertainty embedded in their vestigial memories? They understand what a president born with a platinum spoon in his mouth doesn't. They know the truth. And that knowledge should forever disaqualify the people with ICE on their shirts and their leaders with ICE in their veins.

We need another amnesty like happened under Reagan. Traffic across the border has slowed significantly. If we can fix the system that would be great, too. Big ask, I know.

Fantine · 2025-07-17T21:04:54-0500

Chesterton said:
What's unbelievable is that you chose the custom title Dona Quixote and can still make such an ignorantly racist OP about Hispanics.

Many groups of all races vote against their self-interests. Sometimes because they believe lies.
When I vote against myself interest, it is almost always due to kindness. I believe in the common good. We have been economically fortunate in many ways, but it doesn't make me get worked up in a lather of greed and selfishness. I am willing to pay a little more taxes so other people can live a little better.

Chesterton · 2025-07-17T21:51:44-0500

Fantine said:
Many groups of all races vote against their self-interests. Sometimes because they believe lies.
When I vote against myself interest, it is almost always due to kindness. I believe in the common good. We have been economically fortunate in many ways, but it doesn't make me get worked up in a lather of greed and selfishness. I am willing to pay a little more taxes so other people can live a little better.

My next door neighbors are Hispanic. How are their self-interests different from my self-interests based on them being Hispanic?

Fantine · 2025-07-17T23:42:31-0500

Chesterton said:
My next door neighbors are Hispanic. How are their self-interests different from my self-interests based on them being Hispanic?

The ICE raids have gone far, far beyond the very small numbers of criminals and drug dealers that Trump mischaracterized as typical immigrants. Citizens and green card holders have often been caught up in the madness by accident. People are deported without due process. As I said most Hispanic families had ancestors who came in without documentation but were pardoned under the Reagan amnesty. They have heard stories about the kind of life their ancestors were escaping. Other Hispanic families were refugees from persecution in their own countries. They are seeing every single refugee currently receiving temporary protective status getting deported, losing their protections, being sent to places like Sudan or El Salvador. They know how innocent these refugees are and can empathise with their plight.
Tom Homan was on television Sunday saying that the federal government would defy the California order not to pick up detainees on the basis of racial profiling. Homan discussed this racial discrimination as just typical police work. Obviously anyone who looks Hispanic and speaks Spanish deserves to be picked up, according to Homan. So that is how your Hispanic neighbors are different and what they are coping with.

ozso · 2025-07-18T04:11:15-0500

Chesterton said:
My next door neighbors are Hispanic. How are their self-interests different from my self-interests based on them being Hispanic?

They're supposed to buy into the narrative that the Republicans are going to deport them, their family members, and their friends and coworkers simply because they are "brown people" (a term used by the left) and because they know Spanish. But if they vote for Democrats in the 2026 elections, then that won't happen.

Always in His Presence · 2025-07-18T04:52:35-0500

Newsweek Poll (July 2025): 50% of Hispanic voters supported deportations, with a 7% increase in overall support and an 11% rise in those who “strongly support” since May 2025.

ozso · 2025-07-18T05:02:15-0500

Always in His Presence said:
Newsweek Poll (July 2025): 50% of Hispanic voters supported deportations, with a 7% increase in overall support and an 11% rise in those who “strongly support” since May 2025.

It's not surprising that those who put in the effort to become legal citizens, aren't supporting those who gatecrashed.

wing2000 · 2025-07-18T08:00:17-0500

Vambram said:
I don't care what country an illegal immigrant is from. If that immigrant is NOT here legally, then that immigrant does NOT have the right to stay in the USA. Follow the laws and obey our laws. It really is as simple as that. Meanwhile, illegal immigrants "jump the line" and get access to benefits and stuff ahead of people who immigrated here to America legally.

The op never mentioned illegal immigrants.

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