The Hispanic Vote

[Fantine]

Unbelievably, 48% of Hispanic voters supported Trump in the 2024 election.

Months later, only 35% approve of him. While I am sorry that this dawning of awareness did not happen earlier, I understand it completely.

Whether the Hispanic voter is an immigrant, a first-generation American, or possibly a second-generation American, I am sure that they realize exactly what life conditions they were fleeing, or how desperate they were.

Very few "waited in line." Most were grandfathered in under Reagan's amnesty. They themselves (or their parents) did exactly what many undocumented immigrants do today, and they were not punished.

And what about the Cubans? They know what it was like to be a refugee fleeing communism. I wonder what they think about Trump's lies about the Haitian refugees--"they're eating the dogs!" I wonder what they think about refugee status being cancelled--when the refugees have no home to return to?

I can empathize because my grandparents fled poverty in Ireland...but that was in the early 20th century. How must these immigrants (or first-generation) or refugees must feel--with the hunger, fear, and uncertainty embedded in their vestigial memories? They understand what a president born with a platinum spoon in his mouth doesn't. They know the truth. And that knowledge should forever disaqualify the people with ICE on their shirts and their leaders with ICE in their veins.

 

[Vambram]

I don't care what country an illegal immigrant is from. If that immigrant is NOT here legally, then that immigrant does NOT have the right to stay in the USA. Follow the laws and obey our laws. It really is as simple as that. Meanwhile, illegal immigrants "jump the line" and get access to benefits and stuff ahead of people who immigrated here to America legally.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Unbelievably, 48% of Hispanic voters supported Trump in the 2024 election.

Months later, only 35% approve of him. While I am sorry that this dawning of awareness did not happen earlier, I understand it completely.

Whether the Hispanic voter is an immigrant, a first-generation American, or possibly a second-generation American, I am sure that they realize exactly what life conditions they were fleeing, or how desperate they were.

Very few "waited in line." Most were grandfathered in under Reagan's amnesty. They themselves (or their parents) did exactly what many undocumented immigrants do today, and they were not punished.

And what about the Cubans? They know what it was like to be a refugee fleeing communism. I wonder what they think about Trump's lies about the Haitian refugees--"they're eating the dogs!" I wonder what they think about refugee status being cancelled--when the refugees have no home to return to?

I can empathize because my grandparents fled poverty in Ireland...but that was in the early 20th century. How must these immigrants (or first-generation) or refugees must feel--with the hunger, fear, and uncertainty embedded in their vestigial memories? They understand what a president born with a platinum spoon in his mouth doesn't. They know the truth. And that knowledge should forever disaqualify the people with ICE on their shirts and their leaders with ICE in their veins.

or maybe they felt that it was unreasonable to deport people who ONLY committed the crime of being here, and thus supported getting the people out who were oterwise criminals and/or came over here in the pass few years when people were POURING over the border every single day.

 

[Chesterton]

Unbelievably, 48% of Hispanic voters supported Trump in the 2024 election.

What's unbelievable is that you chose the custom title Dona Quixote and can still make such an ignorantly racist OP about Hispanics.

 

[public hermit]

Unbelievably, 48% of Hispanic voters supported Trump in the 2024 election.

Months later, only 35% approve of him. While I am sorry that this dawning of awareness did not happen earlier, I understand it completely.

Whether the Hispanic voter is an immigrant, a first-generation American, or possibly a second-generation American, I am sure that they realize exactly what life conditions they were fleeing, or how desperate they were.

Very few "waited in line." Most were grandfathered in under Reagan's amnesty. They themselves (or their parents) did exactly what many undocumented immigrants do today, and they were not punished.

And what about the Cubans? They know what it was like to be a refugee fleeing communism. I wonder what they think about Trump's lies about the Haitian refugees--"they're eating the dogs!" I wonder what they think about refugee status being cancelled--when the refugees have no home to return to?

I can empathize because my grandparents fled poverty in Ireland...but that was in the early 20th century. How must these immigrants (or first-generation) or refugees must feel--with the hunger, fear, and uncertainty embedded in their vestigial memories? They understand what a president born with a platinum spoon in his mouth doesn't. They know the truth. And that knowledge should forever disaqualify the people with ICE on their shirts and their leaders with ICE in their veins.

We need another amnesty like happened under Reagan. Traffic across the border has slowed significantly. If we can fix the system that would be great, too. Big ask, I know.

 

[Fantine]

What's unbelievable is that you chose the custom title Dona Quixote and can still make such an ignorantly racist OP about Hispanics.

Many groups of all races vote against their self-interests. Sometimes because they believe lies.
When I vote against myself interest, it is almost always due to kindness. I believe in the common good. We have been economically fortunate in many ways, but it doesn't make me get worked up in a lather of greed and selfishness. I am willing to pay a little more taxes so other people can live a little better.

 

[Chesterton]

Many groups of all races vote against their self-interests. Sometimes because they believe lies.
When I vote against myself interest, it is almost always due to kindness. I believe in the common good. We have been economically fortunate in many ways, but it doesn't make me get worked up in a lather of greed and selfishness. I am willing to pay a little more taxes so other people can live a little better.

My next door neighbors are Hispanic. How are their self-interests different from my self-interests based on them being Hispanic?

 

[Fantine]

My next door neighbors are Hispanic. How are their self-interests different from my self-interests based on them being Hispanic?

The ICE raids have gone far, far beyond the very small numbers of criminals and drug dealers that Trump mischaracterized as typical immigrants. Citizens and green card holders have often been caught up in the madness by accident. People are deported without due process. As I said most Hispanic families had ancestors who came in without documentation but were pardoned under the Reagan amnesty. They have heard stories about the kind of life their ancestors were escaping. Other Hispanic families were refugees from persecution in their own countries. They are seeing every single refugee currently receiving temporary protective status getting deported, losing their protections, being sent to places like Sudan or El Salvador. They know how innocent these refugees are and can empathise with their plight.
Tom Homan was on television Sunday saying that the federal government would defy the California order not to pick up detainees on the basis of racial profiling. Homan discussed this racial discrimination as just typical police work. Obviously anyone who looks Hispanic and speaks Spanish deserves to be picked up, according to Homan. So that is how your Hispanic neighbors are different and what they are coping with.

 

[ozso]

My next door neighbors are Hispanic. How are their self-interests different from my self-interests based on them being Hispanic?

They're supposed to buy into the narrative that the Republicans are going to deport them, their family members, and their friends and coworkers simply because they are "brown people" (a term used by the left) and because they know Spanish. But if they vote for Democrats in the 2026 elections, then that won't happen.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Newsweek Poll (July 2025): 50% of Hispanic voters supported deportations, with a 7% increase in overall support and an 11% rise in those who “strongly support” since May 2025.

 

[ozso]

Newsweek Poll (July 2025): 50% of Hispanic voters supported deportations, with a 7% increase in overall support and an 11% rise in those who “strongly support” since May 2025.

It's not surprising that those who put in the effort to become legal citizens, aren't supporting those who gatecrashed.

 

[wing2000]

I don't care what country an illegal immigrant is from. If that immigrant is NOT here legally, then that immigrant does NOT have the right to stay in the USA. Follow the laws and obey our laws. It really is as simple as that. Meanwhile, illegal immigrants "jump the line" and get access to benefits and stuff ahead of people who immigrated here to America legally.

The op never mentioned illegal immigrants.

 

[Chesterton]

The ICE raids have gone far, far beyond the very small numbers of criminals and drug dealers that Trump mischaracterized as typical immigrants. Citizens and green card holders have often been caught up in the madness by accident. People are deported without due process. As I said most Hispanic families had ancestors who came in without documentation but were pardoned under the Reagan amnesty. They have heard stories about the kind of life their ancestors were escaping. Other Hispanic families were refugees from persecution in their own countries. They are seeing every single refugee currently receiving temporary protective status getting deported, losing their protections, being sent to places like Sudan or El Salvador. They know how innocent these refugees are and can empathise with their plight.
Tom Homan was on television Sunday saying that the federal government would defy the California order not to pick up detainees on the basis of racial profiling. Homan discussed this racial discrimination as just typical police work. Obviously anyone who looks Hispanic and speaks Spanish deserves to be picked up, according to Homan. So that is how your Hispanic neighbors are different and what they are coping with.

You need to calm down and stop engaging in what psychologists call catastrophizing. No legal U.S. citizen is going to be deported, except maybe Rosie O'Donnell.

 

[Always in His Presence]

You need to calm down and stop engaging in what psychologists call catastrophizing. No legal U.S. citizen is going to be deported, except maybe Rosie O'Donnell.

Or stop watching the View

 

[Fantine]

You need to calm down and stop engaging in what psychologists call catastrophizing. No legal U.S. citizen is going to be deported, except maybe Rosie O'Donnell.

And so if they are apprehended, detained, disrespected, stopped and frisked or stopped while driving while Hispanic that doesn't bother you?
It doesn't bother Tom Homan. Your looks entitle you to.harassment and false arrests.

 

[Chesterton]

And so if they are apprehended, detained, disrespected, stopped and frisked or stopped while driving while Hispanic that doesn't bother you?
It doesn't bother Tom Homan. Your looks entitle you to.harassment and false arrests.

I didn't see the TV show where Homan said what you said. Would be nice if you could provide a link.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

I don't care what country an illegal immigrant is from. If that immigrant is NOT here legally, then that immigrant does NOT have the right to stay in the USA. Follow the laws and obey our laws. It really is as simple as that. Meanwhile, illegal immigrants "jump the line" and get access to benefits and stuff ahead of people who immigrated here to America legally.

The rule of law is effective only if laws benefit society, are practical to implement, can be enforced, and are respected by all.

Entering the United States without proper authorization has been a violation of U.S. law and considered a crime for the past century. This is the law of the land.

Yet, both conservatives and liberals, Democrats and Republicans, have disregarded this law when it suited their political or economic interests, such as during labor shortages. Some granted pardons or amnesty to undocumented immigrants, while others sought to pass bills providing legal status. Currently, the "Dignity Act" in Congress proposes certain legal protections for those who have violated this law.

This law undermines the integrity of our legal system. This law is subject to varying levels of enforcement depending on political and economic circumstances. It is upheld when it aligns with current needs, but we ignore it when it doesn’t suites our needs.

Instead of focusing solely on how to enforce this law, it is worth considering why it was enacted nearly 100 years ago, and why it has not been consistently followed over the past century. The law has been used or opposed by Americans of various political ideologies at different times. Should this law remain in place? If so, should it be revised to address the needs of contemporary America?

 

[Fantine]

The rule of law is effective only if laws benefit society, are practical to implement, can be enforced, and are respected by all.

Entering the United States without proper authorization has been a violation of U.S. law and considered a crime for the past century. This is the law of the land.

Yet, both conservatives and liberals, Democrats and Republicans, have disregarded this law when it suited their political or economic interests, such as during labor shortages. Some granted pardons or amnesty to undocumented immigrants, while others sought to pass bills providing legal status. Currently, the "Dignity Act" in Congress proposes certain legal protections for those who have violated this law.

This law undermines the integrity of our legal system. This law is subject to varying levels of enforcement depending on political and economic circumstances. It is upheld when it aligns with current needs, but we ignore it when it doesn’t suites our needs.

Instead of focusing solely on how to enforce this law, it is worth considering why it was enacted nearly 100 years ago, and why it has not been consistently followed over the past century. The law has been used or opposed by Americans of various political ideologies at different times. Should this law remain in place? If so, should it be revised to address the needs of contemporary America?

A thoughtful post. Sending 4,000 armed soldiers, unwanted and uninvited to Los Angeles where they storm through parks where children play; approved building facilities in alligator infested swamps that would not pass muster as animal shelters in the ASPCA; snatching teens out of high school; sending masked men who do not identify themselves to apprehend people; deporting refugees from terror who have been granted protection from us because a hard-hearted leader changes his mind will never be accepted by all. Our religious leaders all over the country are calling this out for what it is and for those of us for whom Jesus is our North Star, we will never approve.

 

[Fantine]

I didn't see the TV show where Homan said what you said. Would be nice if you could provide a link.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

Unbelievably, 48% of Hispanic voters supported Trump in the 2024 election.

Months later, only 35% approve of him. While I am sorry that this dawning of awareness did not happen earlier, I understand it completely.

Whether the Hispanic voter is an immigrant, a first-generation American, or possibly a second-generation American, I am sure that they realize exactly what life conditions they were fleeing, or how desperate they were.

Very few "waited in line." Most were grandfathered in under Reagan's amnesty. They themselves (or their parents) did exactly what many undocumented immigrants do today, and they were not punished.

And what about the Cubans? They know what it was like to be a refugee fleeing communism. I wonder what they think about Trump's lies about the Haitian refugees--"they're eating the dogs!" I wonder what they think about refugee status being cancelled--when the refugees have no home to return to?

I can empathize because my grandparents fled poverty in Ireland...but that was in the early 20th century. How must these immigrants (or first-generation) or refugees must feel--with the hunger, fear, and uncertainty embedded in their vestigial memories? They understand what a president born with a platinum spoon in his mouth doesn't. They know the truth. And that knowledge should forever disaqualify the people with ICE on their shirts and their leaders with ICE in their veins.

Could you please explain why you consider it surprising that 48% of Hispanic voters supported President Trump?

Hispanic voters, similar to all American constituencies, do not represent a single, unified political bloc. Contrary to certain assertions, their priorities encompass a broad range of issues that go well beyond matters such as immigration policy or the legal status of undocumented individuals.

Studies indicate that Hispanic voters in the United States tend to hold more socially and economically conservative views compared to white Americans. Additionally, research suggests that, aside from European immigrants, many immigrant groups in the U.S. often have conservative perspectives.

Today, Democrats largely retain the minority vote due to the harsh rhetoric from the current Republican Party. If Republicans used a tone similar to that of George W. Bush or Ronald Reagan, 70% of immigrants might support the GOP.

by the way, In the early 19th and 20th century, Irish immigrants in the United States expressed resistance toward the arrival of Italian or Scandinavian immigrants. This pattern reflects a recurring theme in human history: individuals who have migrated for better opportunities may not always support similar migration by others.