Flat or round earth -The final experiment.

Strong in Him · Wednesday at 4:14 AM

Apple Sky said:
Thank you so much David for your concern but I think this is God's mission for me until my end

If you really believe that you have to, or have been told to, do this then I commend you for your obedience.

It makes me sad, though, because God's mission for all his people is to preach the Good News and tell them about Jesus.
The shape of the earth is not the Gospel. As I have said before; never has been, never will.
Just think what impact you could have on people's lives if you were as enthusiastic talking about Jesus, the cross and God's love as you are about "converting" people to believe something which isn't important.

Apple Sky said:
1. The sun will be darkened & the moon will not give off her light,

Has nothing to do with the shape of the earth.

Apple Sky said:
2. The sky will scroll back and every eye shall see him.

Yes. Has nothing to do with the shape of the earth.

Apple Sky said:
3. And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great. (Could these be pieces of the firmament breaking up)

COULD be - nothing to say that it is, and it has nothing to do with the shape of the earth.

Apple Sky said:
Mathew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: Not my words but Jesus's.

What has any of that got to do with the shape of the earth?

d taylor · Wednesday at 7:13 AM

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The science games continue

Astronomers have discovered another puzzling interstellar object − this third one is big, bright and fast
This information was released on July 2nd
Astronomers have discovered another puzzling interstellar object − this third one is big, bright and fast

In the 1996 movie Independence Day the aliens made their presence known on July 2nd
On July 2, 1996, an extraterrestrial mother ship enters Earth's orbit outside the Moon and deploys its flying saucers, each 15 mi (24 km) in diameter, over major cities worldwide.

July 2nd, at S.E.T.I. in New Mexico, SETI Tech One is on duty when an alarm starts to go off. He calls SETI Chief and puts the phone next to the computer speakers. SETI Tech Two tells SETI Chief that no air traffic is in the area. SETI Chief tells SETI Tech Three to get in touch with Space Command to let them know and SETI Tech Three tells SETI Chief the signal is coming from the moon. General William Grey asks a Commanding Officer who else knows about the space signal.

prodromos · Wednesday at 7:21 AM

d taylor said:
The science games continue

Astronomers have discovered another puzzling interstellar object − this third one is big, bright and fast
This information was released on July 2nd
Astronomers have discovered another puzzling interstellar object − this third one is big, bright and fast

In the 1996 movie Independence Day the aliens made their presence known on July 2nd
On July 2, 1996, an extraterrestrial mother ship enters Earth's orbit outside the Moon and deploys its flying saucers, each 15 mi (24 km) in diameter, over major cities worldwide

Huh?
Did you have a point you were trying to make?

Apple Sky · Wednesday at 10:23 AM

Strong in Him said:
If you really believe that you have to, or have been told to, do this then I commend you for your obedience.

It makes me sad, though, because God's mission for all his people is to preach the Good News and tell them about Jesus.
The shape of the earth is not the Gospel. As I have said before; never has been, never will.
Just think what impact you could have on people's lives if you were as enthusiastic talking about Jesus, the cross and God's love as you are about "converting" people to believe something which isn't important.

Has nothing to do with the shape of the earth.

Yes. Has nothing to do with the shape of the earth.

COULD be - nothing to say that it is, and it has nothing to do with the shape of the earth.

What has any of that got to do with the shape of the earth?

Revelation covers every aspect for the shape of the earth from the firmament to the sun, moon & all the the stars, I cant imagine what impact it would have if all the stars fell to earth & just knowing that the moon gives off her own light - Yes, Revelation shows us the truth about our level earth & all that is in it.

Strong in Him · Wednesday at 10:54 AM

Apple Sky said:
Revelation covers every aspect for the shape of the earth from the firmament to the sun, moon & all the the stars,

Revelation wasn't written to teach people about the shape of the earth. Why would it have been?
Revelation contains a vision of God, angels, cherubim etc worshipping. It contains letters from Jesus to 7 churches. It tells of how Satan will be finally overthrown, defeated and how there will be a new heaven and a new earth.
It is about the end of the world, not the beginning - and certainly not about the shape that God made the earth.

Apple Sky said:
I cant imagine what impact it would have if all the stars fell to earth & just knowing that the moon gives off her own light

It's a picture of what the END of the world will be like.

Apple Sky said:
Yes, Revelation shows us the truth about our level earth & all that is in it.

No, it doesn't.
Such a comment shows that you do not understand Revelation - nor do you understand that God did not inspire the Bible to teach people about the shape of the earth.
It's not important. It cannot keep people from God. Satan may deceive people about many things - the shape of the earth is not one of them.
You have said, several times, that if people believed the earth was flat they would realise the Bible was true and there'd be more converts. If that were true, everyone in the Flat Earth Society would be Christians, and they're not.

You have never been able to explain how Christians who believe in a globe earth and Christians who believe the earth to be a flat, yet 40,000 foot deep, object surrounded by Antarctica will both be in heaven.
You can't explain how I, a globe earth Christian, believe Genesis 1 and how I am a Christian just as much as you are.
The obvious answer is that they have nothing at all to do with each other. Maybe you haven't answered because you don't want to believe/accept that.
Jesus didn't teach the shape of the earth and the idea that a person can believe in him, have eternal life, belong to the Good Shepherd, be filled with his Spirit etc etc and then be deceived, punished or miss out in some way because they were mistaken about the shape that God made one of the planets in the solar system to be, is ludicrous.

Apple Sky · Wednesday at 11:16 AM

Strong in Him said:
Revelation wasn't written to teach people about the shape of the earth. Why would it have been?
Revelation contains a vision of God, angels, cherubim etc worshipping. It contains letters from Jesus to 7 churches. It tells of how Satan will be finally overthrown, defeated and how there will be a new heaven and a new earth.
It is about the end of the world, not the beginning - and certainly not about the shape that God made the earth.

It's a picture of what the END of the world will be like.

No, it doesn't.
Such a comment shows that you do not understand Revelation - nor do you understand that God did not inspire the Bible to teach people about the shape of the earth.
It's not important. It cannot keep people from God. Satan may deceive people about many things - the shape of the earth is not one of them.
You have said, several times, that if people believed the earth was flat they would realise the Bible was true and there'd be more converts. If that were true, everyone in the Flat Earth Society would be Christians, and they're not.

You have never been able to explain how Christians who believe in a globe earth and Christians who believe the earth to be a flat, yet 40,000 foot deep, object surrounded by Antarctica will both be in heaven.
You can't explain how I, a globe earth Christian, believe Genesis 1 and how I am a Christian just as much as you are.
The obvious answer is that they have nothing at all to do with each other. Maybe you haven't answered because you don't want to believe/accept that.
Jesus didn't teach the shape of the earth and the idea that a person can believe in him, have eternal life, belong to the Good Shepherd, be filled with his Spirit etc etc and then be deceived, punished or miss out in some way because they were mistaken about the shape that God made one of the planets in the solar system to be, is ludicrous.

Revelation contradicts all notions of Globe as does Genesis 1.

Strong in Him · Wednesday at 1:02 PM

Apple Sky said:
Revelation contradicts all notions of Globe as does Genesis 1.

So you don't understand it then?

Still no answer about what the shape of the earth has to do with salvation and knowing Jesus - or why it is even important.

And when you, yourself, have said that the earth is a circle - a circle which is 40,000+ feet deep - why the insistence that it can't be a globe?

RDKirk · Wednesday at 1:45 PM

Strong in Him said:
Still no answer about what the shape of the earth has to do with salvation and knowing Jesus - or why it is even important.

There it is.

Apple Sky · Wednesday at 2:03 PM

Strong in Him said:
why the insistence that it can't be a globe?

The sun, moon & the stars, oh, & not forgetting the firmament & b/c the whole Bible contradicts a globe.

Strong in Him · Wednesday at 2:15 PM

Apple Sky said:
The sun, moon & the stars, oh, & not forgetting the firmament & b/c the whole Bible contradicts a globe.

Nonsense.

Apple Sky · Thursday at 2:28 AM

Strong in Him said:
Nonsense.

This is Nonsense.

Apple Sky · Thursday at 2:34 AM

Strong in Him · Thursday at 2:41 AM

Apple Sky said:
This is Nonsense.

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This was explained to you in post #2,627 - and you marked it as being "informative."

So yes, it is nonsense that you are posting it once again to "prove" that something didn't happen.

Apple Sky · Thursday at 2:51 AM

Strong in Him said:
This was explained to you in post #2,627 - and you marked it as being "informative."

Yes one image, care to explain away the rest of the nonsense ?

David Lamb · Thursday at 4:11 AM

Apple Sky said:
Revelation contradicts all notions of Globe as does Genesis 1.

Where? Can you quote the verses in Revelation that say that the earth is a flat disc? I have just looked up the word "earth" in Revelation. It occurs 65 times, and not once does it mention the earth being flat. There is one verse that mentions the four corners of the earth:

“After these things I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, on the sea, or on any tree.” (Re 7:1 NKJV)

But a flat disc doesn't have literal corners. As Barnes writes in his commentary:

"[Standing on the four corners of the earth.] This language is, of course, accommodated to the prevailing mode of speaking of the earth among the Hebrews. It was a common method among them to describe it as a vast plain, having four corners, those corners being the prominent points north, south, east, and west. So we speak now of the four winds, the four quarters of the world, etc."

Where does Genesis 1 mention the earth's shape? I can't find any verse in that chapter which does.

Apple Sky · Thursday at 7:07 AM

David Lamb said:
Where? Can you quote the verses in Revelation that say that the earth is a flat disc? I have just looked up the word "earth" in Revelation. It occurs 65 times, and not once does it mention the earth being flat. There is one verse that mentions the four corners of the earth:

“After these things I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, on the sea, or on any tree.” (Re 7:1 NKJV)

But a flat disc doesn't have literal corners. As Barnes writes in his commentary:

"[Standing on the four corners of the earth.] This language is, of course, accommodated to the prevailing mode of speaking of the earth among the Hebrews. It was a common method among them to describe it as a vast plain, having four corners, those corners being the prominent points north, south, east, and west. So we speak now of the four winds, the four quarters of the world, etc."

Where does Genesis 1 mention the earth's shape? I can't find any verse in that chapter which does.

And you wont, all's that you will find are contradictions to the earth not being a globe.

David Lamb · Thursday at 7:29 AM

Apple Sky said:
And you wont, all's that you will find are contradictions to the earth not being a globe.

Can you give me some examples of the sort of contradiction you mean, from Revelation and from Genesis 1? If there was something anywhere in the bible that clearly stated that the earth is a flat disc, then why do so many genuine, bible-believing Christians not believe in a flat earth?

prodromos · Thursday at 7:54 AM

Apple Sky said:
Yes one image,

So why did you repost it?

Apple Sky said:
care to explain away the rest of the nonsense ?

First you have to explain why you consider them nonsense.

prodromos · Thursday at 7:58 AM

Apple Sky said:
No waters could exist under a revolving planet

"Under the earth" simply means deep below the surface of the earth, and there are immense amounts of water trapped below the earth's surface.

RDKirk · Thursday at 8:29 AM

prodromos said:
"Under the earth" simply means deep below the surface of the earth, and there are immense amounts of water trapped below the earth's surface.

Yes, any ancient person seeing a natural spring will think of "waters under the earth."

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