Trump threatens to cut Calif.’s federal funds if trans athletes ‘illegally’ compete in women’s events

RileyG · Jun 30, 2025

Bradskii said:
Why are you not accepting that there is no problem? Why insist on ignoring that fact?

It’s a problem- to me- because males don’t belong in woman only spaces. It’s very much an issue.

BCP1928 · Jun 30, 2025

RileyG said:
It’s a problem- to me- because males don’t belong in woman only spaces. It’s very much an issue.

We recognize that it's an issue for some women and not others.

RileyG · Jun 30, 2025

BCP1928 said:
We recognize that it's an issue for some women and not others.

I have a young niece. I don’t want a male in the same restroom as her, regardless of what he “identifies as.”

BCP1928 · Jun 30, 2025

RileyG said:
I have a young niece. I don’t want a male in the same restroom as her, regardless of what he “identifies as.”

That's right, if that's how you feel. But again, many people don't really care about that kind of thing. Just keep in mind that your feelings on the matter are not universal or normative.

RileyG · Jun 30, 2025

BCP1928 said:
That's right, if that's how you feel. But again, many people don't really care about that kind of thing. Just keep in mind that your feelings on the matter are not universal or normative.

Biology says otherwise, and many people agree with me allowing MEN in the women’s restroom or sports.

Bradskii · Jun 30, 2025

RileyG said:
It’s a problem- to me- because males don’t belong in woman only spaces. It’s very much an issue.

You demand that transwomen must not go into a women's restroom because it's a problem for you? Are you being serious? Apart from the fact that there is no problem to be solved, how do you get to decide what happens in a woman's restroom that has nothing whatsoever to do with you?

You don't like it so everyone must comply with what you want? That is simply outrageous.

RileyG · Jun 30, 2025

Bradskii said:
You demand that transwomen must not go into a women's restroom because it's a problem for you? Are you being serious? Apart from the fact that there is no problem to be solved, how do you get to decide what happens in a woman's restroom that has nothing whatsoever to do with you?

You don't like it so everyone must comply with what you want? That is simply outrageous.

I worded it wrong.

Very wrong.

. It’s not about me.

It’s about not allowing men in women’s restrooms because they have no business being in there to begin with.

The only male that should be allowed in a woman’s restroom is a little boy with his mother.

Bradskii · Jun 30, 2025

RileyG said:
I worded it wrong.

I don't think that you did. It's your personal problem with trans people that is your only argument. The facts tell you that there is no problem. You'd never tell the difference as to who is using the women's restroom. It could be full of transwomen and it wouldn't matter.

What would matter is forcing a young transwomen to go into a men's restroom and risk all that that entails. But that doesn't seem to have entered your head. The fact that a great number of transwomen have been beaten and assaulted seems to be a matter of no concern. The fact that there are no examples of transwomen using restrooms to sexually assault other women is studiously avoided.

RileyG · Jun 30, 2025

Bradskii said:
I don't think that you did. It's your personal problem with trans people that is your only argument. The facts tell you that there is no problem. You'd never tell the difference as to who is using the women's restroom. It could be full of transwomen and it wouldn't matter.

What would matter is forcing a young transwomen to go into a men's restroom and risk all that that entails. But that doesn't seem to have entered your head. The fact that a great number of transwomen have been beaten and assaulted seems to be a matter of no concern. The fact that there are no examples of transwomen using restrooms to sexually assault other women is studiously avoided.

What worries is me is ANYONE can claim to be trans and use the women’s restroom to assault women. And I’m very much aware many trans people are victims of violence.

rjs330 · Jun 30, 2025

BCP1928 said:
Why is it so necessary to keep them out now that they might be trans? Before that many states didn't even have bathroom laws, and men have always occsionally used women's rooms.

They MIGHT be? At least you are honest with the fact that you have no idea if they are or aren't. So you want to allow men to use the women's room because they MIGHT be trans.

They also MIGHT not be. They MIGHT be perverts. They also MIGHT be criminals.

Many states didn't have laws because everyone knew better.

So seriously what is the reason the left is so bent on letting men in the womens rooms.

rjs330 · Jun 30, 2025

ralliann said:
Yep, even derailing a thread to continue it. Many just want to get in your face, pretending they are not. They cannot stand the way some people think and feel about things. So they want to shove it in their face. That is why things like this become law. I don't know if the transgender stuff is all that much anymore. It seems it is losing steam with business. But hey, just let em have private bathrooms, if it comes to that and let it go.

I perfectly fine with private bathrooms. We have them at my place of work.

rjs330 · Jun 30, 2025

BCP1928 said:
Thank you. At least you are giving us your honest opinion. All this talk about how it's not because they're trans at all, it's just because they are biological males is tiresome.

Why is telling the truth tiresome. Why do you tire of the truth. You dont really think this is ONLY about mentally ill men who think they are women do you? This is about ALL men. Mentally ill or not.

RileyG · Jun 30, 2025

rjs330 said:
They MIGHT be? At least you are honest with the fact that you have no idea if they are or aren't. So you want to allow men to use the women's room because they MIGHT be trans.

They also MIGHT not be. They MIGHT be perverts. They also MIGHT be criminals.

Many states didn't have laws because everyone knew better.

So seriously what is the reason the left is so bent on letting men in the womens rooms.

This whole nonsense just needs to stop. Why is it suddenly so trendy and popular? Makes zero sense to me.

RileyG · Jun 30, 2025

rjs330 said:
I perfectly fine with private bathrooms. We have them at my place of work.

Me too! It would solve a lot of problems.

Bradskii · Jun 30, 2025

RileyG said:
What worries is me is ANYONE can claim to be trans and use the women’s restroom to assault women.

Do you actually realise what you are saying? I'm really not sure that you do. But it's an example of the muddled thinking that replaces any logical understanding of the problem.

What you have just said is that any man can pretend to be a woman, dress up and put make-up on to gain entry to a women's restroom to sexually assault women. Well, yeah, that is a possibility if a guy was dumb enough and desperate enough and was prepared to break all the existing laws that we have against that.

So you think we need another law against it? Apparently it worries you, so I guess you do think that existing laws aren't enough. It seems that you need someone on the door to make sure that whoever enters isn't someone pretending to be a woman. But no, hang on. Let's be sensible about this. I think we could both agree that it would be a remarkably stupid thing to do, checking every woman to make sure that she wasn't a man intent on sexually assaulting women.

But that's exactly what you say concerns you. Despite there being zero evidence for it.

RileyG · Jun 30, 2025

Bradskii said:
Do you actually realise what you are saying? I'm really not sure that you do. But it's an example of the muddled thinking that replaces any logical understanding of the problem.

What you have just said is that any man can pretend to be a woman, dress up and put make-up on to gain entry to a women's restroom to sexually assault women. Well, yeah, that is a possibility if a guy was dumb enough and desperate enough and was prepared to break all the existing laws that we have against that.

So you think we need another law against it? Apparently it worries you, so I guess you do think that existing laws aren't enough. It seems that you need someone on the door to make sure that whoever enters isn't someone pretending to be a woman. But no, hang on. Let's be sensible about this. I think we could both agree that it would be a remarkably stupid thing to do, checking every woman to make sure that she wasn't a man intent on sexually assaulting women.

But that's exactly what you say concerns you. Despite there being zero evidence for it.

It has happened. Hunter Heckel of Virginia wore a skirt and sexually assaulted a girl in the bathroom. It occurred in 2021 when he was 15.

Bradskii · Jun 30, 2025

RileyG said:
It has happened. Hunter Heckel of Virginia wore a skirt and sexually assaulted a girl in the bathroom. It occurred in 2021 when he was 15.

This was in a school. And the guy wasn't trans. This isn't anything to do with the matter at hand which is transwomen, presenting themselves as women, wanting others to accept them as women, indistinguishable from other women who'd be using the restroom in a public space.

Again, if this was in your local bar, what would you want done. Have someone on the door checking genitalia? Making sure that a man isn't pretending to be a woman in order to gain entry and sexually assault someone?

Wasn't this just discussed? Wasn't it just suggested that this would be a monstrously stupid thing to do? Because we have laws against that already? And it would be a complete invasion of everyone's privacy? But hang on, maybe you don't think it's that stupid. Who knows. All I know is that at some point you're going to again say 'A man shouldn't be in a woman's restroom!'

RileyG · Jun 30, 2025

Bradskii said:
This was in a school. And the guy wasn't trans. This isn't anything to do with the matter at hand which is transwomen, presenting themselves as women, wanting others to accept them as women, indistinguishable from other women who'd be using the restroom in a public space.

Again, if this was in your local bar, what would you want done. Have someone on the door checking genitalia? Making sure that a man isn't pretending to be a woman in order to gain entry and sexually assault someone?

Wasn't this just discussed? Wasn't it just suggested that this would be a monstrously stupid thing to do? Because we have laws against that already? And it would be a complete invasion of everyone's privacy? But hang on, maybe you don't think it's that stupid. Who knows. All I know is that at some point you're going to again say 'A man shouldn't be in a woman's restroom!'

Of course I don’t want anyone to check genitalia.

Maybe im too traditional that I will never accept trans women as real women, because I find it impossible. Maybe im too old fashioned.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this issue and move on.

Take care

Bradskii · Jun 30, 2025

RileyG said:
Of course I don’t want anyone to check genitalia.

Then there's nothing to change. There's nothing to do. It's not surprising that you have no answer to the problem because it doesn't actually exist.

RileyG · Jun 30, 2025

Bradskii said:
Then there's nothing to change. There's nothing to do. It's not surprising that you have no answer to the problem because it doesn't actually exist.

I have nothing further to add.

Have a lovely evening

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