Ai Companion: Yes or No?

bèlla said:

Most people aren’t called to singleness and I’d wish you’d stop saying otherwise. Whether choice or circumstance limits companionship doesn’t minimize the desire for marriage or some form of partnership for the majority. Quoting Paul isn’t going to change that. And you often leave out the verse that follows when making your argument and that settles the matter.

But if they do not have [sufficient] self-control, they should marry; for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.



There is nothing wrong with desiring a spouse, making them a priority and having a family. If someone wants to live differently they’re welcome to do so. But shaming people for desiring a covenant the Lord approves of is unbiblical.



That’s an unnatural way to live and it isn’t a reality the majority would choose without reason. The fact that you don’t consider it worldly is questionable.



I don’t need a robot to help me to get closer with God. I have the Holy Spirit within me and people I can engage with. This sounds like a dystopian comedy.



Ten years is nothing considering your age and rest assured you have biases too.



Who do you think they’ll get rid of with a population reduction mandate? The poor will be first in line followed by whomever they’ve determined falls within the useless class and others who are expendable.



It isn’t a flaw. It was purposely designed that way to separate the classes.



This isn’t a theocracy and you’ll never have it until Christ returns.



It isn’t going to happen and that’s wishful thinking. If you follow the market you should know otherwise. Their intentions are obvious.



I’m not willing to sacrifice billions of lives to do so and I’m not alone in that.



Poverty exists for many reasons beyond generosity or greed. Personal choices are a major factor which exacerbates their circumstances. There are many people who grew up poor, went to school and got a job and live differently now. It’s a question of decisions and priorities for most. Which goes back to the teaching on denying yourself and taking up the cross. We all have to do so including the poor. And a wise man doesn’t stake his future on fantasies. He chooses the practical route that insures his security and well-being.

What you don’t foresee with the technology is the division inherent in its promotion. They’re not going to put them in their homes or use them as companions or friends. They’ll encourage the populace to follow suit while relying on humans themselves. They’ll have Ai instructing your children and helping with housework while they maintain a staff. You’ll get 3D houses and clothing but they’re not using that. The human experience will be marketed as a premium and human involvement will cost you more. All of the things they say you don’t need they continue to use for themselves.

~bella

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Most people being called to singleness is a weird take for sure.

The entire of Scripture suggests that the ideal state for man and woman is marriage, save a few instances that departed from that norm.

bèlla said:

There is nothing wrong with desiring a spouse, making them a priority and having a family. If someone wants to live differently they’re welcome to do so. But shaming people for desiring a covenant the Lord approves of is unbiblical.

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I apologize if it seemed like I'm shaming people for desiring to get married because that is not my intention.

I've been that situation. The very depressing heavy-hearted feelings if circumstances prevent you or makes it incredibly difficult to meet someone. The last thing I want to do is add to their despair.

But if they do not have [sufficient] self-control, they should marry; for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

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I've actually advised a single member to get married if they can't control their desires.

If you need to verify it, you can look through my posts. It's fairly recent, not more than couple months ago. I'm not that unreasonable and it's definitely in the Bible and the context applies to present times as well.

First I quote what Paul said is better but if they can't control their desires, I get to the latter part. It simply did not come up in our discussion until now.

It isn’t going to happen and that’s wishful thinking. If you follow the market you should know otherwise. Their intentions are obvious.

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I know it's never going to happen until the status quo is demolished which will only happen by supernatural means in the future as prophesied.

But sometimes, wishful thinking does wonders to the soul and body. Thoughts feed the soul and the body. "Man does not live by bread alone".
Think only what is pure, clean, right, lovely even if the world does not operate in such manner even if it's only wishful thinking.

A lot of the negative side-effects of the technology we regularly use today were warned about. Now you're not allowed to question it b/c it just doesn't cross people's minds. But the side-effects are there nonetheless. A new generation grows up w/ it & those who warned about it pass. The idea of an AI Companion seems ridiculous to me. But all it takes is for something to catch on by the 'in' crowd & the culture is changed.

I don't care for Chat GTP, AI, or whatever, & don't even really know what it is.

Also, I'm glad there's healthy debate on Singleness vs Marriage. This was a debate common in the early church, Singleness won out for a time, but now church attitudes have shifted towards if you're not married you should be trying to (largely b/c church leadership is married), so it's encouraging seeing people talk about that. The Bible says God places people both single & married & they both have unique roles

DragonFox91 said:

A lot of the negative side-effects of the technology we regularly use today were warned about. Now you're not allowed to question it b/c it just doesn't cross people's minds. But the side-effects are there nonetheless. A new generation grows up w/ it & those who warned about it pass. The idea of an AI Companion seems ridiculous to me. But all it takes is for something to catch on by the 'in' crowd & the culture is changed.

I don't care for Chat GTP, AI, or whatever, & don't even really know what it is.

Also, I'm glad there's healthy debate on Singleness vs Marriage. This was a debate common in the early church, Singleness won out for a time, but now church attitudes have shifted towards if you're not married you should be trying to (largely b/c church leadership is married), so it's encouraging seeing people talk about that. The Bible says God places people both single & married & they both have unique roles

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These days if one works in IT - if you don't use AI you're out of business, it's as simple as that.

As for the marriage vs single debate - let's rephrase that in its consequences: sustaining the species/Biblical values vs going extinct ...

God celebrates life .. Judaism has always valued marriage highly (eg. Song of Songs) / 'it is not good to be alone' .. etc. It's a no brainer really.

Marriage allows us to practise giving / focusing on the other one's needs / forces one to sacrifice / allows us to work on ourselves via the (hopefully constructive) criticism we receive from our partners, to be supported emotionally/socially/physically when we're too weak ourselves, etc.

It's Asceticism in overdrive (already quite dominant in the early church) to think being single is better for us as humans / believers / members of our society.

Choosing to remain single sometimes is used as a saintly-looking cover-up for our inability or unwillingness to communicate / get out of our comfort zone / grow empathically / give up our autonomy.

I do realise there's also a group of people with personality/mental disorders & conditions that make marriage nearly impossible (and this group is over-represented on this forum) - but let's call a spade a spade and not use those conditions to downplay marriage as the God-given ideal state for mankind.

Be blessed ..

As I've said in the past, I've been curious what OT says about being single. We know the NT Paul & Jesus's thoughts. We s/ expect to find the same message in the OT. There's a lot of marriages in the OT, & the Law has a lot of marriage commandments. I'm not sure, I'll have to look, but I'm thinking some of the prophets were single b/c of their unique role. We know also the OT frequently compares our relationship to the Lord as a marital relationship. I think the Jews (& the Gentiles) understanding of Singleness in the OT is often lost in the shuffle

Reluctant Theologian said:

These days if one works in IT - if you don't use AI you're out of business, it's as simple as that.

As for the marriage vs single debate - let's rephrase that in its consequences: sustaining the species/Biblical values vs going extinct ...

God celebrates life .. Judaism has always valued marriage highly (eg. Song of Songs) / 'it is not good to be alone' .. etc. It's a no brainer really.

Marriage allows us to practise giving / focusing on the other one's needs / forces one to sacrifice / allows us to work on ourselves via the (hopefully constructive) criticism we receive from our partners, to be supported emotionally/socially/physically when we're too weak ourselves, etc.

It's Asceticism in overdrive (already very dominant in the early drive) to think being single is better for us as humans / believers / members of our society.

Choosing to remain single sometimes is used as a saintly-looking cover-up for our inability or unwillingness to communicate / get out of our comfort zone / grow empathically / give up our autonomy.

I do realise there's also a group of people with personality/mental disorders & conditions that make marriage nearly impossible (and this group is over-represented on this forum) - but let's call a spade a spade and not use those conditions to downplay marriage as the God-given ideal state for mankind.

Be blessed ..

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Paul disagrees. All those attributes are attained thru Singleness as well. Singleness isn't hiding in your house like a hermit or being selfish w/ others. If your Singleness is like that, I think you should question if you are saved. There are those married who live very selfishly & those single who live very for the Lord, & vice versa
I think very few look to Singleness as being more saintly. If anything it's marriage is viewed as more saintly b/c of reasons you listed & most desire to be married, when Bible says neither is more saintly

DragonFox91 said:

I don't care for Chat GTP, AI, or whatever, & don't even really know what it is.

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Actually, there is reason for concern but probably not what you'd expect.

I always had an inkling about it so it's actually something I can confirm or corroborate based on my own understanding of scriptures. I would know if AI isn't reasoning correctly. For a disciple who is able to see beyond what's in front of her eyes that the male disciples couldn't, we don't have any of her teachings in the Canon Bible. But her teachings do exist but not included in the Canon and the AI found that her teachings supported the teachings of Jesus but not some of the other disciples who couldn't see beyond what is front of them. That alone is a clue to something far worse.

Also, I'm glad there's healthy debate on Singleness vs Marriage. This was a debate common in the early church, Singleness won out for a time, but now church attitudes have shifted towards if you're not married you should be trying to (largely b/c church leadership is married), so it's encouraging seeing people talk about that. The Bible says God places people both single & married & they both have unique roles

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The love of money is the root of all evil. Families generate revenue. Singles, probably not or less, a lot less.

This must generated strong biases towards married Christians despite what the Bible is saying. Strong enough to make them believe the opposite of what Jesus and Paul is teaching. What else could the modern church got wrong?

DragonFox91 said:

As I've said in the past, I've been curious what OT says about being single. We know the NT Paul & Jesus's thoughts. We s/ expect to find the same message in the OT. There's a lot of marriages in the OT, & the Law has a lot of marriage commandments. I'm not sure, I'll have to look, but I'm thinking some of the prophets were single b/c of their unique role. We know also the OT frequently compares our relationship to the Lord as a marital relationship. I think the Jews (& the Gentiles) understanding of Singleness in the OT is often lost in the shuffle

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Some things are just period specific and don't apply to us.

The marriages talked about in OT are the direct ancestors of Jesus. So they are pretty relevant. But there's not another Messiah that's going to be born now nor in the future so that marriage is no longer as important in NT. The minds of people who are not saved are often concerned with these things. Marriage and eating and drinking just before the flood, and before the coming of Jesus.

And many of the wisdom in OT doesn't apply in NT and even contradictory like the wisdom of Solomon which is materialistic compared to the wisdom of Jesus. Most Christians prefer the wisdom of Solomon if it suits their worldly desires.

Judaism is a different religion and back then it was called "Pharisee". Jesus warned us about them, "the yeast of the Pharisee".

DragonFox91 said:

Also, I'm glad there's healthy debate on Singleness vs Marriage. This was a debate common in the early church, Singleness won out for a time, but now church attitudes have shifted towards if you're not married you should be trying to (largely b/c church leadership is married), so it's encouraging seeing people talk about that. The Bible says God places people both single & married & they both have unique roles

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Hello! In some Christian circles marriage is presented as the goal and single people viewed as abnormal. I have seen it tied in with the prosperity gospel, God wants to bless you with the best spouse, the best house, the best career, the best car. Survival of the fittest. Dangling everything that the carnal mind wants in front of them, sex and money, itching ears. Darwin. God's your genie in a bottle, the catalyst for you to get ahead.

Perhaps the better way would be to present living for the Lord as the goal, if that involves marriage or singleness then whatever, marital status is not the highest priority for the believer. We're all meant to be family and love one another. Maybe if the church taught what God has already given us, rather than constantly striving for something else.

AI dolls were perhaps inevitable, there are a lot of lonely and hurting people out there. Dating Darwinism can make them worse.

God Bless

lismore said:

Hello! In some Christian circles marriage is presented as the goal and single people viewed as abnormal. I have seen it tied in with the prosperity gospel, God wants to bless you with the best spouse, the best house, the best career, the best car. Survival of the fittest. Dangling everything that the carnal mind wants in front of them, sex and money, itching ears. Darwin. God's your genie in a bottle, the catalyst for you to get ahead.

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The false prosperity gospel is actually far more widespread than many Christians think.

The problem have taken root since the early church days.

These are passages from the Book of Jude. I don't have to indicate the verses because Jude is only one page chapter which anyone can read in whole in just few minutes (Bible Gateway passage: Jude - New International Version):

For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about[b] long ago have secretly slipped in among you.

In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires.” 19 These are the people who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit.

they follow their own evil desires; they boast about themselves and flatter others for their own advantage.

shepherds who feed only themselves. They are clouds without rain,

these people slander whatever they do not understand, and the very things they do understand by instinct—as irrational animals do—will destroy them.

They highly value the same things also highly valued by unbelievers. They typically can't see beyond the value of money.They give tax breaks to the rich at the expense of everybody else because they argue that the rich creates jobs, wealth creates jobs as an example. They claim to be Christians who probably read the Bible because if they did, they will realize the poor widow's cent did a lot more than the billions of the rich. And if they really believe that, they'd be doing a lot differently.

It's ironic that nations who are more or less non-religious knows a lot more about the concepts of mercy than Christian nations who seem blinded by money and greed. We can all thank their mistaken understanding of King Solomon and his 666 talents of income when these Christians behave like antiChrists and believe the opposite of what Jesus is preaching.

AI dolls were perhaps inevitable, there are a lot of lonely and hurting people out there. Dating Darwinism can make them worse.

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You're absolutely right. Ironically, the materialism and worldliness of the modern church contributed to this situation.

It made people gravitate towards material desires and this rendered many people "undesirable for a spouse" in the eyes of many.

Those who contributed to this problem is definitely more accountable. Those who preached about the beauty of wealth and made people love money (the root of all evil).

I am going to be straight forward. I have prophetic gifts. Jesus showed me about taking "the jabs" lead to an operating system, that will end by total control and no free will. how anti christ will misuse everything. How people would be trapped into "the cloud",and can`t get out. I saw it. It was horrible. People will try to end it, but cannot as they have no body. Trapped forever in AI cloud. And they are talking about this by the way. In another dream I heard they call this program afterlife. They will trick people promising eternal life or supernormal abilites but it is all a trap. Recently Jesus confirmed everything he showed me from another person.
I don`t think we can be too careful enough.

bèlla said:

Bilderberg Group just finished meeting recently. You can view their agenda and see the attendees. They discussed depopulation and other subjects. But the discussions remain private and aren’t shared with the public. I’m fairly certain their concerns aren’t aligned with the common man nor with him in mind. It’s unwise to champion subjects that will lead to your undoing.

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I actually have very little concern for self-preservation. My curiosity of the afterlife outweighs my desire to go on living and Jesus did teach we shouldn't love our lives and warned against seeking to save our lives. But to me, it's mostly curiosity.

I don't mind policies that seek to limit population growth like "one child policy" or even "no child policy". AI companions may help there.

Policies to exterminate people is different and I would certainly fight against it. But if we lose and I end up dying for it, I'd still be ok because of my curiosity of the afterlife.

I don't fear death as a consequence. Conspiracies, real or not. makes no difference to me.

They aren’t pie in the sky ideas that have no component in the natural that doesn’t support the spiritual in some capacity.

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The nature or "natural" you see today, even that is corrupt.

The world's society and economy actually mirrors nature. Nature also makes it hard for the weak to survive. Survival of the fittest.

This is why when the Lord turn the corrupt world into His Kingdom, the animals would no longer devour each other. Even nature will be transformed/healed from corrupt to uncorrupted.

Animal instincts will lead to death and they don't make good examples (Jude 1:10).

Anyway, I'm not saying we should regard nature with contempt and stop caring for it. We are still accountable for the Lord's creations - Revelation 11:18.

Even our knowledge of the natural is limited. Science hasn't discovered everything yet. Ironically, even my own body seems to defy known science. I don't mean to justify myself (but if it sounds that way, so be it) but perhaps what I'm saying might help somebody like someone who needs healing. What pollutes/corrupts the body is not what we put in our mouths but what comes out of it.

bèlla said:

Survival of the fittest doesn’t bother me in and of itself. It’s a factor of nature and less difficult to navigate if you’re working together and willing to listen and that’s where the majority go awry. They want you to beg them to listen or debate things to death. And it hastens a lot of sharing. But they don’t keep it to themselves. They find an audience who values their input. That‘s why a lot of information are behind pay gates. It didn’t start out that way but you can’t spend your day arguing.

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A factor of nature that does not reflect the Lord's nature.

"whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me" - Matthew 25:40

It shows the Lord cares deeply for the "least" (the poor, the oppressed, the weak).

Survival of the fittest always puts the "least" at a disadvantage even if you have a very clever way of dealing with it and something the Lord will not impose on anyone who needs Him. Not everyone is right in the head to even process things as normal people does. There will be some people who are unable help themselves. Maybe in USA, there are programs for these people but not elsewhere.

It is unacceptable to the Lord regardless of form. Parable of the Workers in the Vineyard - everyone gets compensated generously, even those who did the least amount of work. They were all compensated equally and generously. Definitely not survival of the fittest. You only needed to be there with the Lord.

This is what I often talk about and I have an "inkling", a theory, the reason behind my agelessness. I think the whole body responds to what is heard or seen. It seems that the cells, DNA, maybe even the atoms in our bodies are like people, they may "hear" or "see" what we do and respond to it. What abounds in the heart comes out of the mouth and the body hears and responds to it. I suppose anything that does not reflect the Lord's nature is poison and corrupts. It's a figurative "poison" but I think it might a contributing factor, possibly a large contributing factor to disease, and even aging.

bèlla said:

We all have a role to play and people we’re meant to serve and our equipping follows suit. The skills you need to deal with the group you’re referencing differ from what’s required for those lacking the same. God has people around the globe and you have to mobilize believers in your area to address your problems. You can’t rely on other countries. The majority are having issues themselves they need to resolve. Especially in America and the UK too.

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You misunderstanding me.

I'm not hoping nor asking that USA and other rich countries extend their welfare programs to other countries. If they did that, they might see 3rd world poverty levels rising within their borders.

I'm just saying that the survival of the fittest game doesn't work for many. In fact, in countries that rated highest in the quality of life index, mostly EU members, they have systems that play against "survival of the fittest". Quality of life did improve on average, people didn't get lazy, and even crime rates dropped. Probably from more people being highly educated due to affordable education and also from other factors leading to less stressful living. Things only start becoming chaotic again when they started receiving immigrants en masse who don't share their values and simply can't support the added numbers because the world really is overpopulated already.

God has people around the globe and you have to mobilize believers in your area to address your problems

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I'm able to do this via supernatural means already. A gift the Lord gave me and I don't even have to use technology directly. But it affects the whole world, not just my country. It just takes time.

"Greater is He that is in me than he that is in the world". It takes only one person to get the job done if the Lord is with that person. The prophets of the OT have such power even if they lived like hermits and are poor. They "moved" things without other people's help nor with wealth.

This worldly kingdom will become the Lord's Kingdom according to the Bible and this is the path it's taking. Ofc getting there won't be smooth. With the devil deeply rooted in this world. The transition is going to be rough.

Has this been medically proven with testing or is it solely based on observation?

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I don't care enough about it to have it tested.

But right now, the situation is starting to give me some difficulties and both people and AI is beginning to doubt my identity on the account of my appearance (facial analysis) and age. It's particularly bothersome with online banking/trading.

Eventually, I won't be able to deal with money if cash is totally phased out and facial recognition became a requirement in every transaction.

Why would a man need to be ageless? That’s typically something you’d associate with a woman and there’s biblical accounts of the same. It’s a form of beautification and it’s usually bestowed on public figures in modern times. Someone who’ll have a ministry or work that puts them in the spotlight like Esther.

If you believe this is so have you asked why it happened and what the Father has in mind?

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Ironically, I don't even want to keep on living anymore. I have a suicide attempt only two years ago. It was guilt, poverty, my own mental issues and ironically, caring for a brain-damaged parent, and just endless "fire-fighting". I do believe my mom would actually better off without me because it will force her sisters to take her in who are more well off. She can finally eat right and not live a like a poor person.

My mom doesn't really love me that much anyway, she won't even touch me and won't let me touch her. I don't mind caring for her and my unconditional love but situations makes things quite unbearable to go on living.

I might have even prayed to the Lord for death. But instead, I seemed to have received the opposite. It did not change my sentiment and I'm still indifferent with my own death. Is the Lord trying to be funny with John 12:25?

I did have a dream when I was young. Something terrible happened to the Earth. Most people were gone. A very long time had passed until people have returned and cities rebuilt but God kept me alive all those times. It took maybe thousands of years. Maybe He just want me to live through the ages to be a living witness to this dark times and maybe help rebuild the next human civilization, a much nicer, more loving one. I don't know really and I don't really want such existence, must be very lonely.

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A mother’s love is important and its absence is grievous and you have my sympathies. I would not be the woman I am without my daughter and she’s helped me transcend this flesh to a path of loveliness I never imagined, But my parents do not traverse the planes I have and there was a time when it was painful but I’ve accepted their position in the Master’s plan and lament no more. For some received 5 talents and others received 3 and the rest were given 1. I don’t expect pigeons to be eagles nor will I apologize for my flight.

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Thanks. I'm still thankful though. Things could have been a lot worse but thank God, it didn't.

My comfort is immaterial in deference to what could be accomplished through my furtherance.

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I still don't get why the Lord would make me look young or young again. Unless John 12:25 is literal in meaning. If you truly hate your life in this world, you keep your life for eternal.

I suppose if you hate your life in this world, you will hate the system of this world too. It's seems to the be only way I can make sense of it. The system of this world is corrupt. If you hate corruption, and the body responds to language, it will hate corruption too and probably adapt/mutate to eliminate corruption in the body.

I read the entirety of your post. I just didn't respond to all them because I think we already discussed it before here or elsewhere. Have definitely saw these posts before.