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Why are they deporting women?

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Why then is a Senator suggesting an overstay of a visa be a federal crime in new legislation? Because currently an overstay of a visa is not a crime whereas crossing the border illegally is. Senator Banks Introduces Bill to Make Visa Overstays a Crime, Increase Penalties - Senator Jim Banks
Do not confuse crimes not being inforced as not crimes. Your ilk once defended illegal border crossing because a previous administration treated them as minor misdemeanors. Today, it is a deportable offense. Overstaying a visa is a crime, although a crime not enforced by a previous administration, a crime nonetheless.
 
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Oh, what crime are they charged with and how much time do they serve?
8 U.S.C. § 1325 and punishable by deportation. Everything else in your post is leftist Wolf Blitzer CNN propaganda.
 
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Section 1325 sets forth criminal offenses relating to (1) improper entry into the United States by an alien.

Source: US Department of Justice
Undocumented immigrants are generally not charged with crimes solely for their immigration status. The act of being in the U.S. without proper documentation is considered a civil offense, not a criminal one, and the penalty is deportation, not incarceration. However, there are specific circumstances where unauthorized entry or reentry after a previous removal order can lead to criminal charges

Civil Offense:
. Being in the U.S. without proper documentation is a civil violation, not a criminal one. The primary consequence is deportation, which is a civil penalty


Criminal Charges:
. Criminal charges are only possible if an individual was previously removed from the U.S. and then re-enters without authorization. This is punishable by imprisonment
 
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Undocumented immigrants are generally not charged with crimes solely for their immigration status. The act of being in the U.S. without proper documentation is considered a civil offense, not a criminal one, and the penalty is deportation, not incarceration. However, there are specific circumstances where unauthorized entry or reentry after a previous removal order can lead to criminal charges

Civil Offense:
. Being in the U.S. without proper documentation is a civil violation, not a criminal one. The primary consequence is deportation, which is a civil penalty


Criminal Charges:
. Criminal charges are only possible if an individual was previously removed from the U.S. and then re-enters without authorization. This is punishable by imprisonment
Sorry but an AI overview doesn't override the DOJ as a source in this matter.

However even AI overview says:

Yes, illegally entering the United States is considered a crime under federal law. Specifically, it's a criminal offense under 8 U.S. Code § 1325 (Improper entry by alien).
 
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Yet none of them are charged with a crime and they are not sent to prison.
According to U.S. Code § 1325 and the US Department of Justice and even AI overview, it is a crime.

Also:
Oh, what crime are they charged with and how much time do they serve?

MYTH #1: Anyone who enters the country illegally is a criminal.
Facts: Being an undocumented (or “illegal”) immigrant has been, until now, only a civil,
not a criminal violation. Under federal immigration law, unlawful presence in this
country is a civil offense. The civil penalty for being in this country unlawfully is
deportation, or removal, which the U.S. Supreme Court has held is not “criminal
punishment.” However, some states—like Arizona—are trying to criminalize an
undocumented immigrant’s mere presence.
What is the source of that?
 
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Yes, when they return I agree.
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The civil penalty for being in this country unlawfully is deportation, or removal, which the U.S. Supreme Court has held is not “criminal punishment.”

All that is saying is that deportation itself is not a criminal punishment. And I and probably most others who share my views agree.

Nonetheless U.S. Code § 1325 and the US Department of Justice says unlawfully entering the US is a crime. Entering the US illegally is a federal crime. Those who do so have committed a crime and are criminals for having done so. However, instead of being punished for that crime, they are given a free ride back home.
 
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When they return after being deported they are charged with a crime.
The civil penalty for being in this country unlawfully is deportation, or removal, which the U.S. Supreme Court has held is not “criminal punishment.”

All that is saying is that deportation itself is not a criminal punishment. And I and probably most others who share my views agree.

Nonetheless U.S. Code § 1325 and the US Department of Justice says unlawfully entering the US is a crime. Entering the US illegally is a federal crime. Those who do so have committed a crime and are criminals for having done so. However, instead of being punished for that crime, they are given a free ride back home.
You did not quote this part.

Being an undocumented (or “illegal”) immigrant has been, until now, only a civil, not a criminal violation. Under federal immigration law, unlawful presence in this country is a civil offense.

So in certain cases entering the country might be a crime but that does not automatically make everyone who is not documented a criminal as was claimed.
 
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When they return after being deported they are charged with a crime.

You did not quote this part.

Being an undocumented (or “illegal”) immigrant has been, until now, only a civil, not a criminal violation. Under federal immigration law, unlawful presence in this country is a civil offense.

So in certain cases entering the country might be a crime but that does not automatically make everyone who is not documented a criminal as was claimed.
That's according to a State of Connecticut PDF which does not correspond with U.S. Code § 1325 and the US Department of Justice.
 
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That's according to a State of Connecticut PDF which does not correspond with U.S. Code § 1325 and the US Department of Justice.
does not correspond with U.S. Code § 1325 according to what court? I have seen multiple sources so far that show it to be a civil infraction and no one has shown me any data other then this single reference showing not to be. No one is charged with a crime and it is treated as a civil issue not a criminal infraction.


For example:


Reality check: There is no law making it a crime to live in the U.S. as an undocumented immigrant. Instead, the law treats it as a civil violation.


The act of being present in the United States in violation of the immigration laws is not, standing alone, a crime. While federal immigration law does criminalize some actions that may be related to undocumented presence in the United States, undocumented presence alone is not a violation of federal criminal law


Being present in the United States without legal documentation is in itself not a crime. Though some of the ways of entering the US may be considered federal crimes, the act of being here without legal documentation is not considered a federal crime.

 
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does not correspond with U.S. Code § 1325 according to what court? I have seen multiple sources so far that show it to be a civil infraction and no one has shown me any data other then this single reference showing not to be. No one is charged with a crime and it is treated as a civil issue not a criminal infraction.


For example:


Reality check: There is no law making it a crime to live in the U.S. as an undocumented immigrant. Instead, the law treats it as a civil violation.


The act of being present in the United States in violation of the immigration laws is not, standing alone, a crime. While federal immigration law does criminalize some actions that may be related to undocumented presence in the United States, undocumented presence alone is not a violation of federal criminal law


Being present in the United States without legal documentation is in itself not a crime. Though some of the ways of entering the US may be considered federal crimes, the act of being here without legal documentation is not considered a federal crime.

Walking down the street after breaking into a house is not illegal either. But you can still be arrested for breaking into the house
 
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does not correspond with U.S. Code § 1325 according to what court? I have seen multiple sources so far that show it to be a civil infraction and no one has shown me any data other then this single reference showing not to be. No one is charged with a crime and it is treated as a civil issue not a criminal infraction.


For example:


Reality check: There is no law making it a crime to live in the U.S. as an undocumented immigrant. Instead, the law treats it as a civil violation.


The act of being present in the United States in violation of the immigration laws is not, standing alone, a crime. While federal immigration law does criminalize some actions that may be related to undocumented presence in the United States, undocumented presence alone is not a violation of federal criminal law


Being present in the United States without legal documentation is in itself not a crime. Though some of the ways of entering the US may be considered federal crimes, the act of being here without legal documentation is not considered a federal crime.

The U.S. Code is what defines US law. Not the Sate of Connecticut, not AI overview, not Axios, not the ALCU.
 
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