If A.I. takes most of the jobs, who is going to buy anything?

2PhiloVoid · Jun 7, 2025

So, are corporations really thinking through the long term logistics involved in their financial status if over half of U.S. jobs are replaced by A.I.?

I don't know. But I'm listening to those who think they know .............

If AI Takes All Of Our Jobs... Who's Going To Buy Everything?

Nithavela · Jun 7, 2025

The assumption is that if they don't do it, someone else will. It's the classic prisoner dilemma.

Some people say that there will be universal basic income and that we will live in a post scarcity society. Others believe that we'll end up with a small ruling class, their underlings who do the few jobs AI can't do and the poor masses that are either left to fend for themselves or simply exterminated.

But for the foreseeable future, there will be many jobs that AI can't do. They just don't include most applications where one sits in a cubicle and types on a keyboard. And really, is that such a big loss?

2PhiloVoid · Jun 7, 2025

Nithavela said:
The assumption is that if they don't do it, someone else will. It's the classic prisoner dilemma.

But does each corporation at this moment think they'll be the economic survivor over the next several years as they each implement A.I. and displace the middle-class? As the video asks, "Who do they think is going to buy their sh...tuff?"

Nithavela said:
Some people say that there will be universal basic income and that we will live in a post scarcity society. Others believe that we'll end up with a small ruling class, their underlings who do the few jobs AI can't do and the poor masses that are either left to fend for themselves or simply exterminated.

That's all rose colored stained glass window dressing, isn't it? (Not really-------I'm being tongue-in-cheek).

Nithavela said:
But for the foreseeable future, there will be many jobs that AI can't do. They just don't include most applications where one sits in a cubicle and types on a keyboard. And really, is that such a big loss?

Are the "many" jobs that a.i. won't be able to do full-time opportunities, with low start up costs and time preparation for the potential employee?

I mean, personally, I'm laid off at the moment, and being that I'm severed not only from a job but from further money expenditures by which to take any additional classes or certifications, I frankly don't know what the hell I need to learn or do. (I'm sure someone out there will be glad to hear this...........................)

I hope various corporations realize they're losing a customer, not from any recognition of their having given me bad service but from my not being able to acquire a solid job..... now. I'm sure they'll all say they're sorry to hear that and then promptly place the blame on my shoulders for my current misfortune instead. I guess I'll be grabbing the next dishwasher job available at the local restaurant, before all of the other laid off folks do.

Pommer · Jun 7, 2025

Nithavela said:
Some people say that there will be universal basic income and that we will live in a post scarcity society.

The new “oh goodness, we’re running out of” commodity will be potable water.
This is the reason for the push for Canada to join the USA, the Great Lakes will supply much of the rest of the world’s potable water and prices will only rise.

2PhiloVoid · Jun 7, 2025

bèlla said:
Universal Basic Income will fill the void and there’s pilots in every state. Numerous conversations have occurred on the subject at the World Economic Forum. Elon is on record as is Andrew Yang and others. While there will be jobs related to the technology and its overseeing. They won’t require as many hands in the workforce.

Yuval Noah Harari has famously termed the dilemma the useless class or useless humans. I’ll post his comments below. He’s a WEF man as well. Not surprising.

“As computers become better and better in more and more fields, there is a distinct possibility that computers will out-perform us in most tasks and will make humans redundant. And then the big political and economic question of the 21st century will be, ‘What do we need humans for?’, or at least, ‘What do we need so many humans for?’”

Harari was then asked whether there were answers to those questions in his book. He responded: “At present, the best guess we have is to keep them happy with drugs and computer games.”

“One possibility is this creation of a new massive class of useless people. Another possibility is the division of humankind into different biological castes, with the rich being upgraded into virtual gods, and the poor being degraded to this level of useless people.”

That isn’t the rationale of a reasonable person. It’s the musings of a supremacist. But when you tell people that they laugh and call you a conspiracy theorist. I said Ai was replacement technology a few years ago and shared a list of jobs that were on the chopping block more than once. It wasn’t an opinion. It’s what I was hearing from the companies themselves as they discussed their products and plans. Workforce reduction was a constant theme and I advised people to get a side hustle to cover themselves.

The consensus on UBI is something digital that’s programmable. We already have something similar in place called food stamps. The benefits are deposited every month to a card and there’s no paper involved. Restrictions are built into the program. You can’t buy everything with EBT.

What I’ve heard more than once regarding UBI is that the resources will have an expiration date. You won’t be able to save it and will lose it if it goes unused. Bear in mind, the government has a lot of information because of the stimulus payments. We’ve often felt it was a dry run of sorts to see how we’d respond.

I’ve mentioned layoffs more than once and said we’re getting more in the fall. Much like I spoke about cryptocurrency and what would follow if Trump was elected and who would benefit. And that we’d enter a period of great inequality. I’m not speculating when I say these things. I have skin in the game. I posted the information from Ray Dalio about a changing world order and told you the orb was coming that’ll scan your retina to access the internet.

If you have enough word in your spirit you’ll know what you’re hearing. The Lord always gives a warning but we ignore it. He sent watchmen over the years to prepare you. But you mocked them, called them names and debunked their feedback. Now the climate’s changed and you’re looking for answers.

Watchmen have a tenure and everyone’s assignment isn’t permanent. Some are called to the role for a season. I know many who’ve lost their livelihood for sharing the truth. They were demonetized or shadow banned and the numbers have lessened. I listen to someone on occasion who had his channel [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] down. He had over 100,000 subscribers and had to start from scratch and still hasn’t recovered. And some are removed from the site completely.

That‘s why you have to be careful what you dismiss. The information may not be available later on. The articles I found about the jobs being replaced have disappeared. I would direct my attention to more profitable pursuits. While you’re debating politics and the like they’re working and never stop and that’s your mistake. He created things to keep you occupied so he can build and you fell for it.

You don’t make statements like that out of the blue. It’s a system. I told you we were going back to former times. That’s why he used the term caste to emphasize the inequity. You can permit yourself to be mistreated if you wish or do something about it while you can.

~bella

Somehow, I don't think the corporation leaders are going to heed the watchmen, not that I've been surprised by any of their corporate decisions of late (or those of the past 400 years). It'll be interesting to see their responses when their billion dollar companies begin to fail while they thought they could ride out the storm.

Hans Blaster · Jun 7, 2025

2PhiloVoid said:
So, are corporations really thinking through the long term logistics involved in their financial status if over half the U.S. is replaced by A.I.?

I don't know. But I'm listening to those who think they know .............

If AI Takes All Of Our Jobs... Who's Going To Buy Everything?

"AI will take yur jerbs" is what you get when you believe the AI hype and you are a paranoid pessimist.

2PhiloVoid · Jun 7, 2025

Hans Blaster said:
"AI will take yur jerbs" is what you get when you believe the AI hype and you are a paranoid pessimist.

Are you implying I'm a paranoid pessimist? How sweet of you.

Hans Blaster · Jun 7, 2025

2PhiloVoid said:
Are you implying I'm a paranoid pessimist? How sweet of you.

The author of the YouTube video is or is trying to get clicks from same. I leave the judging of you to you.

2PhiloVoid · Jun 7, 2025

Hans Blaster said:
The author of the YouTube video is or is trying to get clicks from same. I leave the judging of you to you.

Thanks, Hans. I never did think I was a pessimist. Paranoid? Yes. But a pessimist, no.

Here's the thing, however: I'm looking at youtube, and I'm seeing all sorts of podcasts and vids that reflect the concerns of the OP video, and in which A.I. executives, current and former, are sounding off with concern, such as the following one:

Now, the questions of the OP remain: If A.I. displaces a large percentage of jobs over the next several years to decade, who do these corporations think will be left to buy their products?

timewerx · Jun 7, 2025

Hans Blaster said:
"AI will take yur jerbs" is what you get when you believe the AI hype and you are a paranoid pessimist.

I don't like clickbaits as well and such videos will surely get a "don't recommend channel" response from me.

However, some of the hype is partially true. I've been exploring the use of open source, local machine (offline) AI programs to potentially use and help me in my work as my ability to make income is rapidly diminishing coming at the worst possible time when I barely have enough to eat and I'm not intelligent enough to work as programmer.

My work is mostly just involved with Excel spreadsheets and some work photoshop and logos. Analysis and automation work. I tested the AI on some past jobs and seemed like it generated the scripts of better quality than I did and much faster too.

And just out of curiosity, I asked it to do jobs I have no experience like in software development, the work of computer programmers. Not only it generated codes for me I never learned my entire life, it also told me how to setup my computer to be able to run the codes as well as convert them into standalone apps. Something that would probably take me several weeks to learn, the AI made it possible in less than a day!

I followed its instructions and was able to accomplish the goals it set for me. Ironically, if the code it generated had errors, I was able to make the same AI debug the code and fix it as well. Fixing the problem in way less time I fix problems on jobs I do know how to fix.

I still had to use the Google search engine when the AI missed out on a few details. However, I wouldn't have gone underway at all without the AI "rolling the dice". I wouldn't even be making the right questions.

My point is while AI can't replace people entirely, my brief experience showed, it has the work output of more than 1 person with that person working at maximum efficiency.

Moreover, AI enabled me, a low wage worker, to accomplish jobs of much higher paid software developers. AI can't eliminate people on the workforce but with AI, you only needed much fewer workers and even low wage workers.

Ironically, even people working on IT fields are not secure at keeping their jobs when AI use became widespread.

public hermit · Jun 7, 2025

2PhiloVoid said:
So, are corporations really thinking through the long term logistics involved in their financial status if over half the U.S. is replaced by A.I.?

I don't know. But I'm listening to those who think they know .............

If AI Takes All Of Our Jobs... Who's Going To Buy Everything?

I think corporations are solely interested in profits, and if AI is cheaper, they will use it in place of humans, even if it's not better at the task. Some that have embraced AI for some tasks have already reversed course, to some extent. I assume that's to be expected.

https://www.axios.com/2025/05/30/ai-jobs-replace-humans-ceos-amodei

I don't think AI, as it stands, is ready to replace humans, and it could be that it will never replace some human functions, functions which seem simple to us but seem to boggle the best systems out there. What I find most concerning is that we really don't understand the details of how LLMs make decisions. That's a huge safety concern. Here's an interesting article on trying to make sense of a production grade LLM. I think we will develop more systems that we simply won't understand, and won't be able to control.

Mapping the Mind of a Large Language Model

We have identified how millions of concepts are represented inside Claude Sonnet, one of our deployed large language models. This is the first ever detailed look inside a modern, production-grade large language model.

www.anthropic.com

jacks · Jun 7, 2025

We seem to have this same concern, when ever technology advances. Somehow, there always seems to be jobs, it's just the nature of the job that changes.

com7fy8 · Jun 7, 2025

One thing I think of is the jobs done by illegal immigrants will continue.

bèlla · Jun 7, 2025

2PhiloVoid said:
Somehow, I don't think the corporation leaders are going to heed the watchmen, not that I've been surprised by any of their corporate decisions of late (or those of the past 400 years). It'll be interesting to see their responses when their billion dollar companies begin to fail while they thought they could ride out the storm.

The watchmen aren’t for them. They were sent on your behalf to prepare believers and those with an ear to hear. Why do you think their companies will fail? They made a killing during the pandemic and small businesses took the hit. Much like they’re doing now with the tariffs.

Corporations are in the know and privy to information well before it reaches the public. For example, Jamie Diamond is the CEO of Chase. He made public statements about Bitcoin and called it a scam and the price dropped. Once it did he was buying it up behind the scenes in secret while convincing the public to do otherwise. When they starting touting Bitcoin it was over a $100K per share. They didn’t tell you to get in when it was cheap and they were buying. That’s why wealth doesn’t trickle down.

But the market moves astrologically. Take that and run with it. ;-)

~bella

Hans Blaster · Jun 7, 2025

2PhiloVoid said:
Thanks, Hans. I never did think I was a pessimist. Paranoid? Yes. But a pessimist, no.

Here's the thing, however: I'm looking at youtube, and I'm seeing all sorts of podcasts and vids that reflect the concerns of the OP video, and in which A.I. executives, current and former, are sounding off with concern, such as the following one:

Now, the questions of the OP remain: If A.I. displaces a large percentage of jobs over the next several years to decade, who do these corporations think will be left to buy their products?

A. The corporations don't care, nor is foresight their forte.
B. The "AI will take all the jobs" is just a bit of unwarranted hype about AI, turned to fear and loathing.
C. There are plenty of "AI hypemen to choose from" that produce videos that assume AI is very useful and powerful and will "disrupt everything". It is a more useful technology than blockchains.

2PhiloVoid · Jun 7, 2025

bèlla said:
The watchmen aren’t for them. They were sent on your behalf to prepare believers and those with an ear to hear. Why do you think their companies will fail? They made a killing during the pandemic and small businesses took the hit. Much like they’re doing now with the tariffs.

I'm only inferring a big 'if' here, not that I know they'll fail.

On another level of inference, I wouldn't expect them to fail, but I'm not going to talk about that here.

bèlla said:
Corporations are in the know and privy to information well before it reaches the public. For example, Jamie Diamond is the CEO of Chase. He made public statements about Bitcoin and called it a scam and the price dropped. Once it did he was buying it up behind the scenes in secret while convincing the public to do otherwise. When they starting touting Bitcoin it was over a $100K per share. They didn’t tell you to get in when it was cheap and they were buying. That’s why wealth doesn’t trickle down.

But the market moves astrologically. Take that and run with it. ;-)

~bella

2PhiloVoid · Jun 7, 2025

public hermit said:
I think corporations are solely interested in profits, and if AI is cheaper, they will use it in place of humans, even if it's not better at the task. Some that have embraced AI for some tasks have already reversed course, to some extent. I assume that's to be expected.

https://www.axios.com/2025/05/30/ai-jobs-replace-humans-ceos-amodei

I don't think AI, as it stands, is ready to replace humans, and it could be that it will never replace some human functions, functions which seem simple to us but seem to boggle the best systems out there. What I find most concerning is that we really don't understand the details of how LLMs make decisions. That's a huge safety concern. Here's an interesting article on trying to make sense of a production grade LLM. I think we will develop more systems that we simply won't understand, and won't be able to control.

Mapping the Mind of a Large Language Model

We have identified how millions of concepts are represented inside Claude Sonnet, one of our deployed large language models. This is the first ever detailed look inside a modern, production-grade large language model.

www.anthropic.com

Right, I don't think A.I. is going to replace humans themselves, but it likely will replace many jobs. I guess we'll see what happens in the wash.

timewerx · Jun 7, 2025

bèlla said:
Corporations are in the know and privy to information well before it reaches the public. For example, Jamie Diamond is the CEO of Chase. He made public statements about Bitcoin and called it a scam and the price dropped. Once it did he was buying it up behind the scenes in secret while convincing the public to do otherwise. When they starting touting Bitcoin it was over a $100K per share. They didn’t tell you to get in when it was cheap and they were buying. That’s why wealth doesn’t trickle down.

You can use automated grid to workaround that issue and even profit from the volatility.

I made 50% growth in just 6 months in the volatile election season of last year (it would be substantially less growth in less volatile seasons). Ironically, I only have a tiny amount invested and it's almost gone now (used to pay bills).

I have my own grid design and setup and generates profits more reliably and allows you to withdraw some of the funding and compound earnings without having to sell/reset positions.

I'm moving away from trading because you need money to generate/compound profits and I have run out of it. I haven't shared anyone my design yet because I'm thinking of making some profit from it when I break ground of being able to generate a revenue from my channel and I'll add trading to my content.

Ironically if every trader in the world adopts low risk grid strategies, no shorting, no leverage, price action of stocks and cryptos will "flatline" especially cryptos. Stocks would still demonstrate an uphill trend but way more smoothly. Everyone will be less vulnerable to crashes but will also generate less profits. Winners generally profits from the losers even if you're using non-forecasting/trending automated trading strategies. I'm not entirely comfortable with it so I may not return to trading.

Pommer · Jun 7, 2025

com7fy8 said:
One thing I think of is the jobs done by illegal immigrants will continue.

America has always an an underclass.
It’s downright egalitarian to shed our dependence on such people, but simply deporting them opens other cans-of-worms.

Nithavela · Jun 8, 2025

Pommer said:
America has always an an underclass.
It’s downright egalitarian to shed our dependence on such people, but simply deporting them opens other cans-of-worms.

The underclass always gets kicked out of the workforce when they are no longer needed, without thanks or an improvement in status. Just like women after wars have to get back to the kitchen.

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