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Tariffs will reduce total federal deficit by over 2 Trillion dollars

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That would be dumb. The whole plan is to let the working class pay it off.

I am fine with the working class paying it off, they have been getting a free ride under Biden so it's about time they contributed. Besides, I just spent over one thousand dollars on 10 cigars and I think the tax on that purchase I had to pay was enough. You are welcome Florida.
 
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The CBO's deficit reduction estimate relies on the assumption that the people of the US will happily pay much higher prices for goods. We'll see about that.

The challenge in keeping track of the statements made by President Trump and his supporters lies in their frequent changes in stance. For instance, when President Trump imposed a 25% tariff on European allies and a 140% tariff on China, his supporters claimed it was merely a negotiation tactic. Subsequently, President Trump reduced these tariffs to 30%, and both he and his supporters asserted that they were achieving more favorable deals. During this period, the US did receive some revenue from these tariffs, prompting his supporters to celebrate the influx of funds from foreign governments. Simultaneously, negotiations continued to lower tariffs with other countries, while projections were being made about the revenue generated over the next decade and its potential to reduce national debt. This continuous adjustment raises the question of their ultimate objective—is it to maintain high tariffs to generate revenue and pay off the debt, or to lower tariffs through negotiations with other countries?

Each objective contradicts the other. If the goal is to raise tariffs so the US government can generate some revenue, regardless of who pays the revenue, and pay off some of the debt, then it is illogical to negotiate with foreign governments to lower tariffs. Conversely, if lowering the tariffs is the objective, then the discussions about how much money the US is generating from tariffs represent only a temporary gain that will not last more than 90 days. Therefore, talking about paying off debt by 2 trillion dollars is not practical.

But, If you present these points to any ardent supporters of President Trump, they usually disregard the facts and accuse you of being a "Trump hater" who dislikes America.
 
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The challenge in keeping track of the statements made by President Trump and his supporters lies in their frequent changes in stance. For instance, when President Trump imposed a 25% tariff on European allies and a 140% tariff on China, his supporters claimed it was merely a negotiation tactic. Subsequently, President Trump reduced these tariffs to 30%, and both he and his supporters asserted that they were achieving more favorable deals. During this period, the US did receive some revenue from these tariffs, prompting his supporters to celebrate the influx of funds from foreign governments. Simultaneously, negotiations continued to lower tariffs with other countries, while projections were being made about the revenue generated over the next decade and its potential to reduce national debt. This continuous adjustment raises the question of their ultimate objective—is it to maintain high tariffs to generate revenue and pay off the debt, or to lower tariffs through negotiations with other countries?

Each objective contradicts the other. If the goal is to raise tariffs so the US government can generate some revenue, regardless of who pays the revenue, and pay off some of the debt, then it is illogical to negotiate with foreign governments to lower tariffs. Conversely, if lowering the tariffs is the objective, then the discussions about how much money the US is generating from tariffs represent only a temporary gain that will not last more than 90 days. Therefore, talking about paying off debt by 2 trillion dollars is not practical.

But, If you present these points to any ardent supporters of President Trump, they usually disregard the facts and accuse you of being a "Trump hater" who dislikes America.
Your reasoning is sound. I am certain the next President will reduce the tariffs to around where they were before. Tariffs never were to pay off the debt but rather to give some tax relief to the richest and some select groups like those who have tip income, seniors who are middle class, (not poor) and those in the middle class that buy new cars through interest deductions. Most are going to be hurt though, and I still predict the richest will be hurt the most. I say this based on extreme income inequality and what happens when things start to turn down. Both of which occurred in the Great Depression and are also occurring now.
 
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Your reasoning is sound. I am certain the next President will reduce the tariffs to around where they were before. Tariffs never were to pay off the debt but rather to give some tax relief to the richest and some select groups like those who have tip income, seniors who are middle class, (not poor) and those in the middle class that buy new cars through interest deductions. Most are going to be hurt though, and I still predict the richest will be hurt the most. I say this based on extreme income inequality and what happens when things start to turn down. Both of which occurred in the Great Depression and are also occurring now.
Forget about the next President of the US. The current President doesn't know what the tariff will be next quarter, yet some are already calculating the next 10 years of revenue generated by this tariff.
 
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Forget about the next President of the US. The current President doesn't know what the tariff will be next quarter, yet some are already calculating the next 10 years of revenue generated by this tariff.
Yes, plus it is impossible to know exactly how consumers and producers will react. If consumers are tight and producers shift production, the tariff revenue will be hard to forecast even if they were steady.
 
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I love how a further shift into debt for the middle and lower classes, gets to pay for the billionaire's tax cut.

But it gets bragged about as "Trump saving the Nation by paying off debt". [could have paid off MORE of that debt without letting rich people keep even MORE money.

I guess they never have to sacrifice for their country.
 
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Forget about the next President of the US. The current President doesn't know what the tariff will be next quarter, yet some are already calculating the next 10 years of revenue generated by this tariff.
The CBO does 10-year projections of all kinds of policies. That's their job.
 
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