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BREAKING: 'Targeted Terror Attack' Hits Boulder, Colorado, During Pro-Israel Gathering

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I am saying that there were virtually no anti-Semitic attacks or demonstrations in the United States until the Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, was indicted for war crimes by the International Court of the Hague for his monstrous, unhinged, unending genocidal attacks against the people of Gaza, 50% of whom are children. The world cries out against these atrocities!

Just as I--and 49.9% of American voters--are innocent of the cruelty, havoc, and economic catastrophes caused by Donald J. Trump, so American and Israeli Jews are not responsible for the atrocities committed by Netanyahu, who is a minority prime minister whose "majority" was patched together by a coalition. Of course they want their hostages released--so do I! But I imagine that Hamas thinks they are the only bargaining chip they have, probably the only bargaining chip against complete obliteration in order to build a Trump Resort: "Bloodbath Beach!"
Hamas needs to be eliminated...period. Hamas is to blame for ALL of this. Even most Gazans now blame Hamas for all of it...
 
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There is definitely plenty of fault on the Palestinian's side. The trouble is, conservatives would have to engage with the real history of the region to discuss it meaningfully, and they can't do that.
Meaning what exactly?
 
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But MAGA policy is to frame it as religious war. and dissention from that policy constitutes anti-semitism.
I am curious, how would YOU frame it?
 
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See? Bomb them to smithereens!
No different than the NAZI youth in Germany in WW2. They need to get rid of leadership and re-educate the youth. Nothing will change otherwise. Problem here is these Islamic terrorists live in much of the ME, not just in Gaza.
 
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Youre being absurd. You can talk about the things people say in the context of the discussion topic. Thats the whole point of the forum. Everyone here is doing it.
Trying to get me to do something I don't want to do is what's absurd.
 
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Meaning what exactly?
Exactly what it says. I've read about the conflict and its origins, and discussed the matter with both Jews and Muslims. I have lived and worked in Muslim countries, was in one on a training gig with my wife, who is openly Jewish last December, where we discussed the matter also. I am no expert on the situation, but I am certain that the Palestian/Israeli dispute, however vicious either side have been, is not a religious war, nor did it arise out of a religious dispute.
 
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Trying to get me to do something I don't want to do is what's absurd.
What I really dislike is when people make veiled accusations about other people here.

You say people are defending this terrorist. When asked if anyone here is doing it you get all cagey about it. All you have to do is either say "no", or quote someone defending the terrorist. Short of that its just this generalized character smear hanging out there - with no one offered the opportunity to defend themselves.
 
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Again, what's going on regarding the topic isn't limited to a few people this thread. It's amazing how often I have to explain that. Even worse is when someone actually thinks I'm talking about them personally.
Riiight. Bringing in unnamed, unknown people who may or may not have done a certain thing is very illustrative. It's a variation on "many people are saying..." Worse it to use these mysterious folk as examples of how awful the other side is. It's a weird when someone demands an answer about "people said this somewhere sometime" with no reference to anything actual.

The general rule is "address the post, not the poster".
 
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Riiight. Bringing in unnamed, unknown people who may or may not have done a certain thing is very illustrative. It's a variation on "many people are saying..." Worse it to use these mysterious folk as examples of how awful the other side is. It's a weird when someone demands an answer about "people said this somewhere sometime" with no reference to anything actual.

The general rule is "address the post, not the poster".
That has nothing to do with what I said. What I said is when I'm talking about thousands of people being involved in something, I'm not not talking about a half dozen people in a thread, or the person I'm replying to.
 
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Even most Gazans now blame Hamas for all of it...
Google search: Gazans blaming Hamas - hit number 1:

‘Enough war’: Why Gazans are protesting Hamas now

Below are the results of a poll taken May 6, 2025:

A majority of 51% (compared to 56% seven months ago) blames Israel for the current suffering of Gazans while 28% (compared to 22% seven months ago) blame the US; only 12% (compared to 12% seven months ago) blame Hamas;

48% of Gazans compared to only 14% in the West Bank say they support the demonstrations that took place over the past two months in the Gaza Strip demanding that Hamas abandon control over that Strip while some demanded the departure of some of its military leaders out of Gaza. Support for these demonstrations stands at 28% in the combined West Bank and the Gaza Strip while 67% say they oppose them. Opposition to demonstrations stands at 77% in the West Bank but only 50% in the Gaza Strip.

However, when asked about their opinion on the nature of these anti-Hamas demonstrations, whether they express a genuine opinion of a segment of the population or artificial and driven by external hands
, a majority of 59% said they were artificial and driven by external hands while only 20% said they express the real opinion of the population.
 
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I hope these attacks will make it clear that jihadists will not stop until every Jew and every American is dead. The U.S. must take a stronger stance against the jihadists.
That's as true as saying that Americans will never stop until every Moslem and every Arab is dead - which is to say not true at all.
 
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