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And ignore the other 20+ translations and the Hebrew definition. It says nothing about the age of the earth.
So you ignore translations if they aren't in the majority? The NASB of all translations, one of the most conservative and widely respected and recognized. Not sure what you're trying to say. And yes, it directly relates to the age of the earth. Sorry if you don't see it yet.
| Lexicon chug: Circle, circuit, compass Original Word: חוּגPart of Speech: Noun Masculine Transliteration: chuwg Pronunciation: khoog Phonetic Spelling: (khoog) Definition: Circle, circuit, compass Meaning: a circle |
Ok. So when God drew this circuit, or compass, this vault or circle, on the face of the deep, what does that sound like to you?
That would be true, except for the fact that God says in His word that He created the stars, sun and moon "to give light on the earth" and also to be for signs and seasons:
Do you truly believe in astrology? That they are for sings about what will happen on Earth?
Certainly not! Astrological signs are not the only kinds of signs that exist. And I don't believe Moses who was the human author of Genesis ever went to Babylon.
What other kind of signs was Genesis 1 talking about, then?
Well, even if you believed that Moses wrote Genesis, then you would just work with the Egyptian culture instead of Babylonian, not much difference regarding astrology, I suppose. All these ancient cultures were heavily into "heavenly signs".
Signs for time divisions, and possibly signs for directions.
But then you have to believe that instead of being inspired by God to write His truth, Moses wrote what the culture of Egypt believed?
Well, we know that this pure pragmatism was non-existent till the modern European era of enlightenment and of rationalism. So it is quite strange to read an ancient text this way.
I do not believe Genesis was written by Moses. It was an unknown book before the Babylonian exile and even internal analysis of the text shows multiple authors, not just one.
Not only (it seems) do you not believe Genesis was written by Moses, you also can't believe that the bible as a whole is God's inspired word. This would be the main reason why we come to completely different conclusions about it.
I am not sure how can we come to completely different conclusions about what Genesis 1 meant by the signs. Why do you think that eclipses or red coloring of the moon are commonly used in the Bible as a sign of the coming judgement, for example?
I think you are intentionally conflating astrology with signs in the heavens. For thousands of years, the phases of the moon marked months. Farmers have been using the movements of the sun, stars and moon for determining the growing cycle. In general, seasons are still marked by the movement of the sun. Even the day is determined by signs in the heavens. It is like saying that the clock is based on astrology.
Of course they are signs, but they are not astrology. When you look at the sky and say it will rain, you are not practicing a pagan worship. When you look at cards in a deck and say a flood will destroy your home, you are practicing a pagan worship. I think you know the difference.
