Counter Protestors in Seattle Attacks Christian Group. Seattle Mayor Blames the Christians

Tuur · May 26, 2025

Here's a link. For some reason this isn't getting much attention...

Police Arrest Protestors at Seattle's Cal Anderson Park

Hazelelponi · May 26, 2025

Tuur said:
Here's a link. For some reason this isn't getting much attention...

Police Arrest Protestors at Seattle's Cal Anderson Park

Oh wow .. that's crazy. And what he said is what certainly a goodly portion of those who identify as Christians believe in...

It was a public stand for biblical values: the sanctity of life, biological truth, and the importance of family and faith. That was enough to draw violence.”

That's just normal Christian values, pretty much anywhere . What's wrong with people...

RileyG · May 26, 2025

Hazelelponi said:
Oh wow .. that's crazy. And what he said is what certainly a goodly portion of those who identify as Christians believe in...

That's just normal Christian values, pretty much anywhere . What's wrong with people...

People have a right to peacefully protest. Period.

RileyG · May 26, 2025

Tuur said:
Here's a link. For some reason this isn't getting much attention...

Police Arrest Protestors at Seattle's Cal Anderson Park

Per the article, they’re proud with LGBT+ in their community (they have every right to be. Period), but it’s not ok for traditional Christians to stand up for what they believe in?

Hmmm….thats a double standard.

SMH

Hazelelponi · May 26, 2025

RileyG said:
People have a right to peacefully protest. Period.

Which apparently they weren't doing - they were a violent mob. It's got to stop. People have a right to gather to discuss issues of faith without violent mobs attacking.

If we don't stand against it we will live in exactly the society we deserve, and apparently religious freedom will be on the chopping block.

RileyG · May 26, 2025

Hazelelponi said:
Which apparently they weren't doing - they were a violent mob. It's got to stop. People have a right to gather to discuss issues of faith without violent mobs attacking.

If we don't stand against it we will live in exactly the society we deserve, and apparently religious freedom will be on the chopping block.

Ah, I see. #4 still stands though.

JosephZ · May 26, 2025

From the article in the OP:

"The demonstration was put on by a group called “On Fire Ministries,” which is led by Christian fundamentalist pastor and former state representative Matt Shea."

For those unfamiliar with Matt Shea, you can read about him here: Report of Investigation Regarding Representative Matt Shea

Vambram · May 27, 2025

This was a peaceful demonstration. It only turned violent when the mob of people who are against the Christian values of the the demonstrators attacked the peaceful demonstration. The mayor of Seattle ought to be ashamed of himself. But, of course, he is not.

SavedByGrace3 · May 27, 2025

And the mayor stood up and blamed the Christians for having their rally in what is known to be a LGBTQ hot spot.
The thing is, the ministry wanted to have the rally somewhere else, but were directed to have it in this park by the city!
The teachings of this group are by no means radical or provocative. They are mainstream Christian beliefs. Our local Episcopalian church teaches the same things as do most of the other churches in our area.

SavedByGrace3 · May 27, 2025

Hazelelponi said:
Which apparently they weren't doing - they were a violent mob. It's got to stop. People have a right to gather to discuss issues of faith without violent mobs attacking.

If we don't stand against it we will live in exactly the society we deserve, and apparently religious freedom will be on the chopping block.

If we do not stand up for our rights, this will become "normalized," and believers who express their beliefs outside of the four walls of their church will be vilified and even criminalized. We already hear radical extremists calling for all such speech to be limited to churches. The "freedom-loving" radical left wants the freedom for everyone to do anything... except for Christians. I wonder why that is? It is almost as if there is an invisible force pulling their strings! And there is...

Vambram · May 27, 2025

I am glad that the FBI is going to investigate that violent mob.

FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino Announces Investigation into Violent Attack on Religious Rally in Seattle Last Weekend | The Gateway Pundit | by Kristinn Taylor

FBU Deputy Director Dan Bongino announced Tuesday evening the FBI is investigating the violent attack on a Christian rally and concert in a Seattle Park on Saturday.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

SavedByGrace3 · May 28, 2025

Vambram said:
I am glad that the FBI is going to investigate that violent mob.

FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino Announces Investigation into Violent Attack on Religious Rally in Seattle Last Weekend | The Gateway Pundit | by Kristinn Taylor

FBU Deputy Director Dan Bongino announced Tuesday evening the FBI is investigating the violent attack on a Christian rally and concert in a Seattle Park on Saturday.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

These are domestic terrorists.

JosephZ · May 28, 2025

SavedByGrace3 said:
The teachings of this group are by no means radical or provocative. They are mainstream Christian beliefs.

The people behind the rally belong to a far-right fringe movement that teaches Dominionism and Christian nationalism. They are not mainstream.

SavedByGrace3 said:
These are domestic terrorists.

Matt Shea, one of the organizers of the event, has participated in acts of domestic terrorism in the past.

Tuur · May 28, 2025

JosephZ said:
The people behind the rally belong to a far-right fringe movement that teaches Dominionism and Christian nationalism. They are not mainstream.

Assuming that you are correct, does that justify their being attacked and condemned by Seattle's mayor?

JosephZ · May 28, 2025

Tuur said:
Assuming that you are correct, does that justify their being attacked and condemned by Seattle's mayor?

This far-right group had a right to publicly voice their opinions, and the physical attacks against them and the police were not justified. However, I agree with the mayor's position. Matt Shea and the organizers of the event knew in advance the response they would get in Seattle and had they held the event downtown as they requested, the outcome would have likely been far worse.

Tuur · May 28, 2025

JosephZ said:
This far-right group had a right to publicly voice their opinions, and the physical attacks against them and the police were not justified. However, I agree with the mayor's position. Matt Shea and the organizers of the event knew in advance the response they would get in Seattle and had they held the event downtown as they requested, the outcome would have likely been far worse.

By this argument, the marchers in Selma, Alabama on Sunday, March 7, 1965, were to blame because they knew in advance the response they would get. Sorry: I don't go along with that.

JimR-OCDS · May 29, 2025

The Christian group was not a far right group. They had applied for a permit to hold their service at a
different location, knowing that the city location was used by the LGBTQ groups who they knew would
react as they did. The city turned down their permit request and gave them a permit to operate in the
park with the assurance that they would have police protection. It was there that the violence against
the Christians took place.

Listen to one of the leaders who was there;

JosephZ · May 29, 2025

JimR-OCDS said:
The Christian group was not a far right group.

They promote Dominionism and Christian nationalism, which are right-wing ideologies.

JimR-OCDS · May 29, 2025

JosephZ said:
They promote Dominionism and Christian nationalism, which are right-wing ideologies.

No they don't and the rioters did not protest this, but claimed that Christian beliefs
equal hatred of LGBTQ+ ideologies. They committed violence against the Christians
for merely being in that park which they think they own.

JosephZ · May 29, 2025

JimR-OCDS said:
No they don't and the rioters did not protest this, but claimed that Christian beliefs
equal hatred of LGBTQ+ ideologies.

According to the counterprotester's sources, they were protesting the far-right group and everything they stand for, which includes Christian nationalism and Dominionism.

Community fights back against Christian nationalist anti-trans hate rally in Seattle

Matt Shea is a former Army intelligence officer who lost his seat in the Washington state legislature for engaging in domestic terrorism. Now a Christian nationalist pastor, he hosts the Patriot Radio podcast, where he promotes dominionism, an extreme form of Christian nationalism that seeks to elevate Christians above all other groups. Their goal is to take over “seven realms of influence”: education, religion, family, business, government/military, arts and entertainment, and media, and then rule in the name of Christ.

On May 24, many in the majority came out to protest these oppressors. Among them were local members of the Freedom Socialist Party (FSP), Radical Women (RW), Organized Workers for Labor Solidarity (OWLS), and the Puget Sound Mobilization for Reproductive Justice (PSMRJ).

They were united with demands to stop the war on trans and queer folk; empower youth to speak, define, and defend themselves; defend bodily autonomy and abortion rights; stand against the racist Christian Identity movement; and defeat Trump, Musk, and Project 2025. They gathered near the park and entered as a group, forming a buddy system to protect one another in case of attack.

Picket the rightwing in Seattle
Keep your bibles off our bodies
PROTEST FASCIST “FAMILY VALUES”

Anti-queer, anti-trans “Mayday USA” is bringing their reactionary preaching to Seattle with help from rightwing pastor Matt Shea and his Christian Fundamentalist “On Fire Ministries.” Provocatively, they are rallying under the hashtag “DONTMESSWITHOURKIDS” at Cal Anderson Park on Capitol Hill in the heart of Seattle’s Queer community. Let’s send a message with a loud picket line, signs and banners: Bigotry is not welcome here!

Unite to:

Stop the War on Trans & Queer Folk
Empower Youth to Speak, Define & Defend Themselves
Defend Bodily Autonomy & Abortion Rights
Stand Against the Racist Christian Identity Movement
Defeat Trump, Musk, & Project 2025

Sat. May 24
2pm to 6pm
Cal Anderson Park, Seattle

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