Has Hitler replaced Satan?

Without a doubt.

Satan is openly celebrated in our society and nobody really cares. However even remotely implying that Hitler was anything but Pure Evil is enough to get you non-personed. Its a sign of the secular religion that replaced Christianity after World War 2. (and that Christians have more or less acquiesced to as the ultimate framing of morality)

In our society you can mass distribute pornography, promote homosexuality to kids, you can rob people, you can even kill people, and do all manner of evil, and it's not viewed anywhere near as bad as having even a slightly sympathetic view of Hitler.

At least that's been the reigning ideology for the last couple of generations. It is beginning to break apart.

Who knows... people may begin to fear God again more than they fear being called a racist/nazi?

The thing about making a person the epitome of evil is that deep down we can tell ourselves that we could never be as wicked. However bad we may be, we tell ourselves "At least I'm not a Hitler/Stalin/Mao/what have you." The last thing anyone wants to hear is that as evil as these men were, they also had a human side. They react with anger, as though being human made them less evil, but I think more that if someone with a human side could be a monster, we could be just as monstrous. Following WWII, there was a psychological study made of members of the Nazi party, and about the mid-1970s it was released to the public. The disturbing thing is they were not psychologically different that the average person.

Hit reply too soon.

If the thought that we could be just as capable of evil is disturbing, ask how Satan fell, then ask what are we doing when we insist that our will and not God's is done.

Hitler was the opposite of lawlessness, the problem was he was just the wrong end of the political horseshoe at the time. -he made up the rules, you followed them or you did not, and paid the consequences. You could also look at the situation as an over reach of the state compared to historical norms. but the reality is the end of every empire is pretty similar. they either fizzle out and are conquered by another, or they are united and are destroyed in a losing battle.

The LGBTQIA+ which is.. sexual identity lawlessness.. is the opposite of hitler, which had all the gays killed and promoted heterosexual only have children for the benefit of the aryian? race.

Who, besides hitler, and moses, had all the homosexuals killed? And made it a crime or heavily restricted interracial unions? Obviously every tribe and culture has had this problem occasionally, but to the extent it was codified in their culture and laws for more than 100 years?.. or are we afraid to say who had this problem?

I mean systemic nation wide edict, not individuals in a local town.

johansen said:

Hitler was the opposite of lawlessness, the problem was he was just the wrong end of the political horseshoe at the time. -he made up the rules, you followed them or you did not, and paid the consequences. You could also look at the situation as an over reach of the state compared to historical norms. but the reality is the end of every empire is pretty similar. they either fizzle out and are conquered by another, or they are united and are destroyed in a losing battle.

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Hitler wasn't really that unique in history. There were many leaders that did harsh or brutal things because they felt it was necessary for survival of their nation or civilization.

The weird thing is that in our society, it is *only* Hitler that is specially regarded as supernaturally evil, or Satan incarnate. It is foundational to the origin myth of the Postwar Consensus (PWC), which had to recreate a framework of Good and Evil, Heaven and Hell, Order and Chaos. The PWC required a new Satan figure and loaded all concept of Evil into the person of Hitler, with the Nazis as a demonic legion on earth.

Michie said:

An interesting article. I was not sure where to post this so I dropped it here. I’d be interested to hear any thoughts on this. I thought Satan had been dismissed, not replaced.

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Hitler has replaced Satan as the true Devil in our post-Christian society, and more in this week's digest.​

Deeply troubled musician Kanye West released a new single last week called “Heil <you know who>.” The song was promptly banned from every major music streaming service (which of course turned it into a huge internet sensation).

The song isn’t actually about Hitler. Hunter Ash on X posted an interesting analysis of it:


Ash makes an insightful observation: Hitler has replaced Satan as the true Devil in our post-Christian society.

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Secular Satanism

Hitler has replaced Satan as the true Devil in our post-Christian society, and more in this week's digest.

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No hilter was just a human pawn.

lifepsyop said:

Hitler wasn't really that unique in history. There were many leaders that did harsh or brutal things because they felt it was necessary for survival of their nation or civilization.

The weird thing is that in our society, it is *only* Hitler that is specially regarded as supernaturally evil, or Satan incarnate. It is foundational to the origin myth of the Postwar Consensus (PWC), which had to recreate a framework of Good and Evil, Heaven and Hell, Order and Chaos. The PWC required a new Satan figure and loaded all concept of Evil into the person of Hitler, with the Nazis as a demonic legion on earth.

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A good example is Stalin who was in Hilters time also , was one of the most brutal leaders in human history.

Hitler was physically visible, as was Stalin, Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge, Saddam Hussein, Idi Amin and all the other modern tyrants.

Satan is not visible, and our largely religionless society does not perceive his working behind the scenes.

I've quoted a Fr. Pedro Barrajon a couple of times lately due to an article from an interview by Paul Badde, a journalist for the German magazine "Die Welt", way back in 2005. The topic was the church's rules on exorcisms, but the closing paragraph referred to the devil's hiddenness, when he is far more dangerous.

The devil is present everywhere that evil things happen within the normal laws of nature. In anyone who says: I don't accept love, the love of my brothers and sisters, the love of God. And in many places, in all massacres, in every murder, in physical catastrophes, in every concentration camp, in all evil. Sometimes he shows himself, strangely, but also in cases of possession. But he's much more dangerous where he doesn't let himself be seen, where he can't be done away with through exorcism. No question.

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BeyondET said:

A good example is Stalin who was in Hilters time also , was one of the most brutal leaders in human history.

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I think one reason western nations been so propagandized to view Hitler as Satan incarnate, is to cover up for the fact that western countries were teamed up with Stalin.

Hitler is made into such a scapegoat that he seems to suck the oxygen out of all other brutality/war-crimes that were committed by Allied forces. No matter how many horrible atrocities we committed, at least we weren't Hitler!

Kind of like that saying.... "yea, so your kids are being kidnapped by the government to have their genitalia chopped off... but at least we're not all speaking German!"

Bob Crowley said:

Hitler was physically visible

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True, but the way many cultural / political leaders have spoken over the decades, it's as if Hitler is a spiritual entity that is lurking in the shadows, with a constant threat of resurfacing. He is viewed very much in a religious way as the embodiment of pure evil.

Hardly anyone cares about Satan anymore.

I dare say the average church would freak out 100x worse if someone walked into their congregation wearing a Nazi Swastika shirt, than if they wore a shirt saying "Hail Satan!"

I was having second thoughts about reports of demonic activity such as people levitating, speaking unknown languages, kids walking up wall etc.

I have no doubt such things occur, but in these days of special effects I suspect people might become blase.

Hitler was responsible for concentation camps, the Gestapo, the SS Einsatzgruppen, Malmedy massacre, mass hangings, summary firing squads, and the bombing of civilian populations. We've got it all on film as well. I remember the first time I ever saw the concentration camps on TV, my father said to me beforehand "You will probably have a nightmare after you watch this". I did too. I suppose I was about ten or so.

If I had seen a movie featuring a possessed kid walking up a wall, I might have had a nightmare then too, but it would have been of a different scale.

When we compare Hitler's actions to the pecularities of Satanic influence during exorcisms as stated above, I think the general population is inclined to think of the devil as a bit of a show-off, whereas Hell would put the concentration camps in the shade for sheer horror, and there's no end to it either.

For what it's worth my old pastor turned up in a vision one night and said "Watch out for certain lady!" Then he added "Your father's paying for it, believe me! You don't want to join him!!" He repeated "Watch out for certain lady!" and then he just disappeared again.

I've long thought my father is in Hell, and I still remember the blood curdlng scream just before he disappeared following our exchange in my bedroom the night he died. Had he appeared and just walked up the wall, I'd have been scared but I don't think it would have had quite the same effect as his parting scream.

I've got a DVD of Bishop Fulton Sheen giving some homilies based on the Our Father. At one point he stated the ending phrase "... and deliver us from evil..." should actually be " ... and deliver us from the evil one ...".

lifepsyop said:

I think one reason western nations been so propagandized to view Hitler as Satan incarnate, is to cover up for the fact that western countries were teamed up with Stalin.

Hitler is made into such a scapegoat that he seems to suck the oxygen out of all other brutality/war-crimes that were committed by Allied forces. No matter how many horrible atrocities we committed, at least we weren't Hitler!

Kind of like that saying.... "yea, so your kids are being kidnapped by the government to have their genitalia chopped off... but at least we're not all speaking German!"

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Hitler ranks third on the list of leaders who ordered the most killings with 25 million. Stalin is second with around 40 million. And like you said he was in a alliance with allies of WW2.