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US-Born Man Held by ICE, Arrested for Unenforceable Law

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Here ya go, folks. It’s happened:

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U.S.-born man held for ICE under Florida's new anti-immigration law • Florida Phoenix

Juan Carlos Lopez-Gomez, a 20-year-old U.S. citizen, was being held in the Leon County Jail Thursday, charged with illegally entering Florida as an “unauthorized alien” — even as a supporter waved his U.S. birth certificate in court. A Florida Highway Patrol trooper arrested Lopez-Gomez after a...
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Juan Carlos Lopez-Gomez, a 20-year-old U.S. citizen, was being held in the Leon County Jail Thursday, charged with illegally entering Florida as an “unauthorized alien” — even as a supporter waved his U.S. birth certificate in court.​

The article goes on to state that he’s being held per the request of ICE and that the initial request was made under a law that a federal judge has temporarily barred the state from enforcing.
 
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iluvatar5150 said:
Here ya go, folks. It’s happened:

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U.S.-born man held for ICE under Florida's new anti-immigration law • Florida Phoenix

Juan Carlos Lopez-Gomez, a 20-year-old U.S. citizen, was being held in the Leon County Jail Thursday, charged with illegally entering Florida as an “unauthorized alien” — even as a supporter waved his U.S. birth certificate in court. A Florida Highway Patrol trooper arrested Lopez-Gomez after a...
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Juan Carlos Lopez-Gomez, a 20-year-old U.S. citizen, was being held in the Leon County Jail Thursday, charged with illegally entering Florida as an “unauthorized alien” — even as a supporter waved his U.S. birth certificate in court.​

The article goes on to state that he’s being held per the request of ICE and that the initial request was made under a law that a federal judge has temporarily barred the state from enforcing.
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I wonder how many red flags it’s going to take.
 
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An official with Homeland Security Investigations in Tallahassee took Lopez-Gomez, a 20-year-old born in Georgia, to a Wendy’s near the jail

Free Frosty Swirl for bona fide citizens detained erroneously.
 
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iluvatar5150 said:
Here ya go, folks. It’s happened:

floridaphoenix.com

U.S.-born man held for ICE under Florida's new anti-immigration law • Florida Phoenix

Juan Carlos Lopez-Gomez, a 20-year-old U.S. citizen, was being held in the Leon County Jail Thursday, charged with illegally entering Florida as an “unauthorized alien” — even as a supporter waved his U.S. birth certificate in court. A Florida Highway Patrol trooper arrested Lopez-Gomez after a...
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Juan Carlos Lopez-Gomez, a 20-year-old U.S. citizen, was being held in the Leon County Jail Thursday, charged with illegally entering Florida as an “unauthorized alien” — even as a supporter waved his U.S. birth certificate in court.​

The article goes on to state that he’s being held per the request of ICE and that the initial request was made under a law that a federal judge has temporarily barred the state from enforcing.
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This kind of racial profiling was bound to happen.

When certain folks don't show up at church, I now have to seriously wonder if they weren't detained by ICE and disappeared.
 
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JSRG said:
Update:
floridaphoenix.com

U.S. citizen released from jail after arrest under Florida’s new anti-immigration law • Florida Phoenix

Juan Carlos Lopez-Gomez held his mother in a tight embrace and wept following his release from the Leon County Jail Thursday evening, where the U.S. citizen was held after his arrest for illegally entering Florida as an “unauthorized alien.” An official with Homeland Security Investigations in...
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He's been released.
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The point, though, is that a citizen of the United States of America, was detained/arrested for not having “his papers” in order.
 
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iluvatar5150 said:
Here ya go, folks. It’s happened:

floridaphoenix.com

U.S.-born man held for ICE under Florida's new anti-immigration law • Florida Phoenix

Juan Carlos Lopez-Gomez, a 20-year-old U.S. citizen, was being held in the Leon County Jail Thursday, charged with illegally entering Florida as an “unauthorized alien” — even as a supporter waved his U.S. birth certificate in court. A Florida Highway Patrol trooper arrested Lopez-Gomez after a...
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Juan Carlos Lopez-Gomez, a 20-year-old U.S. citizen, was being held in the Leon County Jail Thursday, charged with illegally entering Florida as an “unauthorized alien” — even as a supporter waved his U.S. birth certificate in court.​

The article goes on to state that he’s being held per the request of ICE and that the initial request was made under a law that a federal judge has temporarily barred the state from enforcing.
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That’s not good!

* I do have issues with Trump, despite being a moderate conservative. He’s far, far from perfect. Just so I’m abundantly clear.
 
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ozso said:
"The arrest record the trooper filed states that Lopez-Gomez had said he was in the country illegally". Hmm
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Considering that the man has a valid birth certificate and the government is eagerly trying to deport every person in the country illegally that it thinks it can reasonably get away with to an El Salvadorean gulag, that seems unlikely. If we're being charitable, the reasonable conclusion is that the trooper misheard - "illegal" and "legal" can sound very similar to someone who is expecting to hear one or the other, especially if said with an accent and/or by someone who is flustered.

If we're being uncharitable, it's well-known that police officers lie on arrest records from time to time. Considering that this guy was trying to enforce a law that the courts had struck down, his grasp of ethics and legal principles are already in question.
 
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Pommer said:
The point, though, is that a citizen of the United States of America, was detained/arrested for not having “his papers” in order.
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In some communities, police have been lobbying for just such a law. They feel limited by not being able to demand papers from anyone they wish to check.
 
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FireDragon76 said:
This kind of racial profiling was bound to happen.

When certain folks don't show up at church, I now have to seriously wonder if they weren't detained by ICE and disappeared.
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....yes, for a brief time in 2011, we saw what happens when law enforcement is empowered to do immigration enforcement (Sheriff Joe's deputies profiling people leaving a hispanic grocery store).

www.justice.gov

Department of Justice Releases Investigative Findings on the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office

Following a comprehensive investigation, the Justice Department today announced its findings in the ongoing civil rights investigation of the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office.
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