What is the Moon ?

David Lamb · Nov 25, 2024

Apple Sky said:
Interestingly enough the moon does reflect a map of the earth.

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But that is what we would expect to see. The part of the moon that is facing the sun reflects light from the sun. That's why it varies from new moon, when we see none of the moon, through crescent moon, when we see part of it, to full moon, when we see the whole moon. If it was fixed to a solid blue dome and emitting its own light, we'd see a full moon all the time. The sky is blue because of the molecules of gases in the atmosphere, and the atmosphere is nearer to the earth than the moon is. So when we see a partial moon in the daytime, the sky is still visible and blue in front of the part of the moon that is not lit by the sun. Here is part of what the UK Met Office says about why the sky is blue:

"Why is the sky blue?
The sky appears blue to the human eye as the short waves of blue light are scattered more than the other colours in the spectrum, making the blue light more visible.
When the Sun's light reaches the Earth's atmosphere it is scattered, or deflected, by the tiny molecules of gas (mostly nitrogen and oxygen) in the air. Because these molecules are much smaller than the wavelength of visible light, the amount of scattering depends on the wavelength. This effect is called Rayleigh scattering, named after Lord Rayleigh who first discovered it."

d taylor · Nov 25, 2024

David Lamb said:
But that is what we would expect to see. The part of the moon that is facing the sun reflects light from the sun. That's why it varies from new moon, when we see none of the moon, through crescent moon, when we see part of it, to full moon, when we see the whole moon. If it was fixed to a solid blue dome and emitting its own light, we'd see a full moon all the time. The sky is blue because of the molecules of gases in the atmosphere, and the atmosphere is nearer to the earth than the moon is. So when we see a partial moon in the daytime, the sky is still visible and blue in front of the part of the moon that is not lit by the sun. Here is part of what the UK Met Office says about why the sky is blue:

"Why is the sky blue?
The sky appears blue to the human eye as the short waves of blue light are scattered more than the other colours in the spectrum, making the blue light more visible.
When the Sun's light reaches the Earth's atmosphere it is scattered, or deflected, by the tiny molecules of gas (mostly nitrogen and oxygen) in the air. Because these molecules are much smaller than the wavelength of visible light, the amount of scattering depends on the wavelength. This effect is called Rayleigh scattering, named after Lord Rayleigh who first discovered it."

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This rayleigh scattering is used by scientist to try and answer the obvious question. That a person may ask when the moon is out during the day and is seen to be in front of the blue. The moon is obviously not thousands of miles out in the darkness of space. But is in the earths sky (raqia, dome, 1st heaven) along with the sun and stars.

This night moon is in front of the night sky

David Lamb · Nov 26, 2024

d taylor said:
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This rayleigh scattering is used by scientist to try and answer the obvious question. That a person may ask when the moon is out during the day and is seen to be in front of the blue. The moon is obviously not thousands of miles out in the darkness of space. But is in the earths sky (raqia, dome, 1st heaven) along with the sun and stars.

This night moon is in front of the night sky

So, in your opinion, what is preventing part or all of the moon from shining when it isn't a full moon?

d taylor · Nov 26, 2024

David Lamb said:
So, in your opinion, what is preventing part or all of the moon from shining when it isn't a full moon?

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That is the way God created and designed this light to work. It is really simple, God created the moon to shine in phases, unlike the sun that shines full all of the time.

David Lamb · Nov 26, 2024

d taylor said:
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That is the way God created and designed this light to work. It is really simple, God created the moon to shine in phases, unlike the sun that shines full all of the time.

Let me state first that I fully agree that God created all things, including our wonderful moon. However, your suggestion that God made the moon that way, to shine in phases, doesn't explain lunar eclipses, when the earth is positioned between the sun and the moon.

d taylor · Nov 26, 2024

David Lamb said:
Let me state first that I fully agree that God created all things, including our wonderful moon. However, your suggestion that God made the moon that way, to shine in phases, doesn't explain lunar eclipses, when the earth is positioned between the sun and the moon.

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It is not meant to explain the earth is positioned between the sun and the moon. Because the earth is never between the sun and moon.

David Lamb · Nov 26, 2024

d taylor said:
It is not meant to explain the earth is positioned between the sun and the moon. Because the earth is never between the sun and moon.

I don't agree with that. We are not given (as far as I am aware) in the bible an explanation of lunar (or solar) eclipses, so believing that the lunar eclipses are caused by the moon being in the earth's shadow is not going against God's Word, as I would be if I said that the moon was not created by God.

d taylor · Nov 26, 2024

David Lamb said:
I don't agree with that. We are not given (as far as I am aware) in the bible an explanation of lunar (or solar) eclipses, so believing that the lunar eclipses are caused by the moon being in the earth's shadow is not going against God's Word, as I would be if I said that the moon was not created by God.

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But to have the moon and sun doing as science states, Will have a different version of God's creation from what has been recorded in Genesis 1(Ch). As the sun, moon and stars are placed in the sky as recorded in Genesis and not in an outer space.

pgp_protector · Nov 26, 2024

Wish I could find the picture, Might have to just make my own version.
Was showing an illuminated ball (moon) from the side,
And then showing the same with a blue Filter in front showing how you can still see the lit portion, but the shadowed(dark) would just show the blue filter.

d taylor · Nov 26, 2024

David Lamb said:
I don't agree with that. We are not given (as far as I am aware) in the bible an explanation of lunar (or solar) eclipses, so believing that the lunar eclipses are caused by the moon being in the earth's shadow is not going against God's Word, as I would be if I said that the moon was not created by God.

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Can you give an explanation if the moon is a sphere reflecting the suns light and is always in a full moon phase.
Why is the light from the full moon phase not seen when the full moon phase is facing away from us.

Photo Example

Full moon with light being emitted fully around the moon.

Now supposedly on the other side of this phase of the moon, if the moon is a sphere. The sphere moon should be giving off a light from a fully lit side (as seen in the above photo). So where is the light from this full moon. Why is this light not seen all the way around the moon, if the moon is a sphere and the other side is in a full moon phase.

Simonides · Nov 26, 2024

ozso said:
After Morgoth destroyed the Two Trees, Telperion was able to produce a single last shining flower and Laurelin a single last shining fruit. Each was placed into a round vessel and put into the sky by the Valar. The vessel holding the flower of Telperion became the Moon and the vessel holding the fruit of Laurelin became the Sun. They are guided by angelic like beings. Tilion who guides the Moon is in love with Arien who guides the Sun and got too close once and that's why the Moon has scorch marks. Side note: Tillion's vessel is made of cheese.

Wonderful. The creation story at the beginning of the Silmarilion is one of the most beautiful pieces of literature that I have ever read.
I might just go dig it out of its box and read it again today.

David Lamb · Nov 27, 2024

d taylor said:
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But to have the moon and sun doing as science states, Will have a different version of God's creation from what has been recorded in Genesis 1(Ch). As the sun, moon and stars are placed in the sky as recorded in Genesis and not in an outer space.

Only if you replace "firmament" with "sky":

“Then God said, "Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years; "and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth"; and it was so.” (Ge 1:14-15 NKJV)

d taylor · Nov 27, 2024

David Lamb said:
Only if you replace "firmament" with "sky":

“Then God said, "Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years; "and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth"; and it was so.” (Ge 1:14-15 NKJV)

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I am not the only one who sees raqia as the sky above our heads as Strong's also defines raqia as sky.

Strong's Hebrew: 7549. רָקִ֫יעַ (raqia) -- Expanse, Firmament
raqia: Expanse, Firmament
Original Word: רָקִיעַ
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: raqia
Pronunciation: rah-kee-ah
Phonetic Spelling: (raw-kee'-ah)
Definition: Expanse, Firmament
Meaning: an expanse, the firmament, visible arch of the sky

Usage: The term "raqia" refers to the expanse or firmament that God created to separate the waters above from the waters below. It is often understood as the sky or the heavens, serving as a dome-like structure that encompasses the earth. In the biblical creation narrative, it is described as a significant part of the ordered cosmos, demonstrating God's sovereignty and creative power.

Strong's Hebrew: 8064. שָׁמַ֫יִם (shamayim) -- Heaven(s), sky
shamayim
shamayim: Heaven(s), sky
Original Word: שָׁמַיִם
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: shamayim
Pronunciation: shah-MAH-yeem
Phonetic Spelling: (shaw-mah'-yim)
Definition: Heaven(s), sky
Meaning: the sky

Also in The New Testament the Greek ouranos (heaven) is also used of the visible sky.
“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

ouranos: Heaven, sky
Original Word: οὐρανός
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: ouranos
Pronunciation: oo-ran-os'
Phonetic Spelling: (oo-ran-os')
Definition: Heaven, sky
Meaning: heaven, (a) the visible heavens: the atmosphere, the sky, the starry heavens, (b) the spiritual heavens.

Lost4words · Nov 27, 2024

People who think the earth is flat or the moon has its own light source are grossly misinterpreting scripture. They are reading into and out of it want they want to see.

Paul4JC · Jan 25, 2025

Apple Sky said:
Is it a solid piece of rock ?
Is it translucent/ transparent ?
Is it plasma ?
Is it a mirror ?

God tells us it is a light for night & for showing us times & seasons.

What do you Guys reckon it is ?

Here is video showing us a half moon during the day time.

Like the sun, there is only one moon in all creation.

Gen 37:9

Deu 4:19

Deu 17:3

Jos 10:12-13

1Sa 20:5,
18, 24, 27, 34

2Ki 4:23

2Ki 23:5

1Ch 23:31

2Ch 2:4

2Ch 8:13

2Ch 31:3

Job 25:5

Job 26:9

Job 31:26

Psa 8:3

Psa 72:5, 7

Psa 74:16

Psa 81:3

Psa 89:37

Psa 104:19

Psa 121:6

Psa 136:9

Psa 148:3

Ecc 12:2

Sng 6:10

Isa 1:13-14

Isa 13:10

Isa 24:23

Isa 30:26

Isa 60:20

Jer 8:2

Jer 31:35

Eze 32:7

Eze 46:1, 6

Hos 2:11

Hos 5:7

Joe 2:10, 31

Joe 3:15

Amo 8:5

Hab 3:11

Mat 24:29

Mar 13:24

Luk 21:25

Act 2:20

1Co 15:41

Col 2:16

Rev 6:12

Rev 8:12

Rev 12:1

Rev 21:23

d taylor · Apr 8, 2025

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Here is a false science statement about the moon, but everyone just accepts it because science says so.

Science states it takes the moon 29 days to orbit the globe earth.

No it takes 29 days for the moon to go through its light phases. The moon travels over the earth each day/night and appears again the next night/day. The light the moon gives off is constantly moving through the moons phases.

prodromos · Apr 8, 2025

d taylor said:
Here is a false science statement about the moon, but everyone just accepts it because science says so.

No, we accept it because it is what we observe.

d taylor · Apr 8, 2025

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Simple proof of what i said is true. I photographed the moon around 7:45-8:00 pm today April 8th 2025. Now tomorrow around the same time April 9th 2025 (if clear weather permits) again i will be able to photograph the moon. With the moon having traveled over the earth, being seen as it moves over the earth. By all land on the surface of the flat earth.

prodromos · Apr 8, 2025

d taylor said:
Simple proof of what i said is true.

It is not proof one way or the other.

Yttrium · Apr 9, 2025

d taylor said:
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Simple proof of what i said is true. I photographed the moon around 7:45-8:00 pm today April 8th 2025. Now tomorrow around the same time April 9th 2025 (if clear weather permits) again i will be able to photograph the moon. With the moon having traveled over the earth, being seen as it moves over the earth. By all land on the surface of the flat earth.

If the Earth rotates and the Moon revolves around the Earth, we should be able to predict what the Moon will look like anywhere on the Earth at any particular time.

And strangely enough, it works.

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