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And we also know that the Lord God instituted the New Covenant after the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ. The Lord doesn't want us to live according to the many multitude of laws given in Old Testament. I believe that you would agree with that.
I am an independent fundamentalist Baptist, and I do agree that the moral laws in the Old Testament are also taught in the New Testament. Those moral laws still indeed reflect the eternal character and will of the Lord God.
Force being the physical application of strength. In the end law, taxation and order in society is ultimately reliant on this aspect of reality. I have been consistent with my use of the word.
Lethality is an aspect of force one cannot exclude from the meaning if one wants to see taxation applied ultimately. Because in the ultimate expression you must be willing to use lethal force in order to enforce the law. Not that this is the first option but it is the final option.
But it's related. If yoy want to suggest Jesus supports a progressive tax structure then ultimately we have to believe Jesus supports the system of actually extracting the tax. This is backed by force, lethal or otherwise.
Are you telling me that states don't ultimately rely on lethal force to back up the law?
When is the last time you know a person was killed for not paying taxes in the US?
The verse in question is silent on that issue. I take the view that Christ is being practical because otherwise it means that governments are fully justified in using force to back all their laws. Even unjust laws and that doesn't quite jell with the gospel.
Irrelevant. What's relevant is what ultimately backs up a law. You cannot deny that it is power, force, which does this.
No, it is relevant. You are creating a false situation when you suggested a person could be killed in the US for not paying their taxes.
The church is far better off it it were communal as the early church in Acts was. I am not saying full blown communism, unbelievers don't work under God. However, I do think though that what is good for Christians is also often good for the government. Thus, Christians should support pro-life, and support it within government. Christians should give to the poor, widows, disabled etc and also support that in government. The same ideas in regard to marriage etc. So it is not a question that income is going to be redistributed, but how much to me. Again lots of benefits exist in common: public education, parks, roads, etc. Some form of relief towards the poor is warranted. Another reason is that many rich people also receive subsidies. Tesla for instance was profiting only because of government monies for tax credits and environmental credits. https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/20/business/elon-musk-wealth-government-help/index.html
Not that simple at all
I don't think Jesus merely interpreted the law --there were multiple instances in His earthly ministry where he defied the Pharisees, and those who rigidly followed the old law, or even "broke" the law (Luke 13:14, touching lepers, etc.)
I agree. His mission and teaching were not simplistic nor easily labelled. Our goal, where Jesus is concerned, should be to invite him into our hearts. Then, the Holy Spirit will lead us in every decision we need to make. And sometimes, if we are really listening and obeying, we will discover that voice calling us to actions, positions and thoughts that challenge us no matter what side of the political divide we choose.
Sad that these guys embrace right wing lies.We’re seeing a society become unhinged … again. Trump has quite a way with the radical Left. They absolutely hate him and DOGE, and they lose it by the hour. Now they’re burning Teslas (so much for climate care), raging in hotel lobbies and on college campuses to defend Hamas supporters, and cursing up a storm at rallies.
It's not just paid activists and politicians jumping into the resistance ring; it’s leftist “faith leaders” too. Recently, nearly 100 “progressive” religious folks signed a letter demanding an unbiblical “Return to Jesus.” The Lent letter demanded that hundreds of millions of dollars of wasted taxpayer dollars continue to flow to (leftist) NGOs.
Funny. I don’t recall the Bible ever advocating that government fund the Church. I don’t recall Jesus demanding the government take care of the poor and the needy and ensure justice for those being crushed. Oh, wait, that’s because that’s the Church’s job. But a social justice worldview sees forced taxpayer funding of (leftist) faith-based organizations (despite massive taxpayer fraud and little to no accountability) as good stewardship.
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Leftist ‘faith leaders’ twisting Bible to support wasteful gov't spending
It s not just paid activists and politicians jumping into the resistance ring; it s leftist faith leaders toowww.christianpost.com
